

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Episodes
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Dec 17, 2020 • 1h 1min
52. Digging into Mall Loan Losses, Retail Loan Modifications, Falling RevPAR
In this week's episodet, we dig into mall loan losses, a noteworthy CMBX retail loan modification, recent retail bankruptcies, multifamily occupancy rates, falling RevPAR, and troubled debt restructurings. Manus also shares his experience of visiting Manhattan for the first time since March.
Episode Notes:
On the ground in NYC (4:32)
A noteworthy CMBX retail loan modification (8:30)
Analyzing mall loan losses (15:25)
The surge in distribution and warehouse leases (23:10)
Retail bankruptcies (26:25)
The Chicago office market (30:09)
Revisiting multifamily occupancy (37:57)
Falling RevPAR (42:46)
Deals of the Week (48:14)
Troubled debt restructurings (53:52)
Our holiday wishlist (58:06)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Dec 15, 2020 • 31min
51. Key CRE Trends from a Broker’s Perspective with Michael Bull, America’s CRE Show & Bull Realty
In a special episode, we welcome Michael Bull, Founder and CEO of Bull Realty and the host of America's Commercial Real Estate Show. We discuss key CRE trends from a broker’s perspective, property repositionings, the future of the office market, and potential long-term changes in the CRE transaction process.
Episode Notes:
The current vibe in Atlanta (1:41)
Key CRE trends from a broker’s perspective (2:56)
Retail, hotel and office performance (8:07)
Potential changes in the CRE transaction process (18:58)
The credit quality of office tenants (22:41)
Predictions for 2021 (26:37)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Dec 10, 2020 • 50min
50. A Global Inflection Point, Special Servicing Rates Decline, Changes in Corporate/Consumer Habits
The sense is that we’re at a global inflection point, with the economy dependent on how fast a vaccine can be fully approved and distributed. In this week's episode, we break down the recent macro news, a declining CMBS special servicing rate, the loan payoff report, and the potential permanent changes in corporate and consumer habits. We also analyze Bob Dylan and Stevie Nicks’ recent nine figure catalog sales.
Episode Notes:
A global inflection point (1:04)
The declining CMBS special servicing rates (8:38)
Rethinking the Manhattan retail market (14:09)
The loan payoff report (21:00)
Permanent changes in corporate and consumer habits? (24:37)
Noteworthy CRE stories (32:50)
Deal of the Week (38:34)
Shout outs (42:05)
Bob Dylan and Stevie Nicks (46:30)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Dec 3, 2020 • 1h 2min
49. Falling Occupancy Rates, Bank CRE Loan Delinquencies, Demand for Office Space
Last week we talked about falling occupancy rates in the multifamily housing market. In this week's episode, we take a deeper dive into this potential trend across all property types. We also look at bank CRE loan vs CMBS delinquencies, the demand (or lack thereof) for office space, and the most recent bad news for retail. Listen here.
Episode Notes:
Bank CRE loan delinquencies (3:21)
Multifamily occupancy rates dipping (10:44)
More bad news for brick and mortar retail (17:48)
The demand (or lack thereof) for office space (33:27)
Deal of the Week (43:59)
Aggregate risk in corporate CLOs (54:29)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Nov 25, 2020 • 51min
48. An Early Look at November Delinquency Rates, Options for Distressed Hoteliers, the Urban Exodus
With 90% of reporting now complete for the month of November, what do the latest delinquency numbers look like? In this week's episode, we dig into this month’s delinquency data, sagging occupancy rates, the urban exodus and its impact on multifamily, and options for distressed hoteliers. The team also shares what we’re thankful for this year.
Episode Notes:
Optimism going into the holidays (0:59)
November delinquency numbers (8:40)
Sagging occupancy rates (16:35)
The urban exodus and its impact on multifamily (20:41)
Options for distressed hoteliers (25:47)
Real estate tech titans (34:51)
Deal of the Week (37:24)
What are we thankful for? (44:04)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Nov 24, 2020 • 38min
47. CRE Investing & Servicing with Adam Behlman, President of Real Estate at Starwood Property Trust
In a special episode, we welcome Adam Behlman, President of Real Estate Investing & Servicing at Starwood Property Trust, the largest commercial mortgage REIT in the US with a market cap of $5 billion. We discuss the volatility today compared to the Great Financial Crisis, the current mindset of borrowers, opportunity for the CMBS market, forbearance relief, and challenges in appraisals.
Episode Notes:
Comparing the Great Financial Crisis to the pandemic (5:39)
Starwood’s conduit lending business (10:44)
Opportunity for the CMBS market (15:09)
The current mindset of borrowers (18:48)
More forbearance relief coming? (22:04)
The migration to Florida (25:05)
Potential changes coming out of this crisis? (28:21)
Challenges in appraisals (34:12)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Nov 19, 2020 • 53min
46. Hotel Sector in Dire Straits, Warehouse Loan Hedging 101, Early Indicators of Bank Failure Risk
What’s next for the struggling hotel sector? In this week's episode, we analyze the flurry of bad news for hotels, which make up the third-largest property type by outstanding CMBS balance. We also discuss retail earnings, warehouse loan hedging 101, early indicators for bank failure risk, and what our Thanksgiving festivities will look like this year.
Episode Notes:
Retail earnings takeaways (1:05)
The lodging sector in dire straits (9:09)
Notable TreppWire headlines (19:52)
Deal of the Week (25:05)
Warehouse loan hedging 101 (31:31)
Indicators of bank failure risk (43:50)
Thanksgiving in 2020 (50:12)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com

Nov 12, 2020 • 55min
45. Property Performance Predictions in a Post-Vaccine World
A widely available vaccine will change the game for commercial real estate, which has of course been hit hard this year. In this week's episode, we offer performance predictions for each property type as the return to normalcy begins to come into focus.
Episode Notes:
Hotel performance in a post-vaccine world (1:00)
The shift in retail (11:02)
Office prices falling (14:38)
Is multifamily performance sustainable? (24:55)
Delinquency rate predictions (29:59)
Sternlicht’s comments on hotel and retail (37:37)
Deals of the Week (42:35)
Digging into the loan payoff report (48:40)
The good, the bad, and the ugly (52:55)

Nov 5, 2020 • 51min
44. Potential Regulatory Changes Post-Election, Risk Retention 101, Notable Q3 CRE Data
With the pressure of the flash recession and a new presidential agenda likely, we may see renewed emphasis on surveillance and risk management for larger financial institutions. In this week's episode, we break down potential regulatory changes, the history of risk retention rules, and measures on the ballot affecting CRE. We also dig into notable Q3 CRE data, the CMBS payoff report, bank failure risk, and the parallels between retail tenants and the legendary (and now defunct) American Basketball Association.
Episode Notes:
What’s behind the market rally? (51:25)
CRE regulatory measures on the ballot (7:44)
The CMBS delinquency rate continues to drop (10:08)
Notable Q3 CRE data (16:52)
The CMBS payoff report (24:40)
Risk retention 101 (29:16)
Deals of the Week (41:01)
Bank failure risk (44:13)
America runs on Dunkin (48:59)

Nov 3, 2020 • 40min
43. CRE Investment Insights with Dr. David Hartzell & Caroline O’Neill, UNC Kenan-Flagler PE Fund
The University of North Carolina Kenan-Flagler private equity fund was the first student-run real estate fund whose mission was to invest outside capital in an educational setting to deliver real returns for investors. In a special episode, we welcome Dr. David Hartzell, Director of the Leonard Wood Center for Real Estate Studies at UNC, and Caroline O’Neill, full-time MBA student and manager of UNC’s fund. We discuss their CRE investment strategies, deal sourcing for the fund, shifting demographics and consumer tastes, pockets of opportunity, and how the pandemic has impacted the market. Listen here.
Episode Notes:
Online learning and the post-pandemic job market (2:13)
UNC’s student run private equity real estate fund (7:09)
Fund performance and deal sourcing (9:51)
Shifting consumer tastes and demographics (21:32)
Pockets of opportunity (27:31)
Comparing the pandemic to the Great Financial Crisis (34:21)


