

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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May 20, 2021 • 52min
82. Movie Theaters, Shopping Malls, and More Office Moves
This week, AT&T announced it will spin off WarnerMedia which is the latest installment in the streaming war news... and there is some real impact that this may have on commercial real estate. In this week’s episode, Trepp’s Head of CMBS, Darren King, joins the team to analyze what is going on in this area. We also dive into the latest retail earnings, a CMBX 6 story, more mall news, both negative and positive signs for the office market, and an update on hotels.
Episode Notes:
• Fed’s last meeting (1:37)
• Retail earnings (3:13)
• Movie theater industry: Impact on real estate (9:57)
• CMBX 6 Trading Alert (25:12)
• Office trends and predictions (35:56)
• Discouraging and encouraging signs for office(39:10)
• Hotel taxes and news (43:39)
• Life insurance commercial mortgage returns report (47:26)
• Shoutouts (48:28)
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May 18, 2021 • 35min
81. Liquidity in Commercial Real Estate with Jim Shevlin, CWCapital and RealINSIGHT
In this guest episode, Jim Shevlin, President and COO at CWCapital and RealINSIGHT joins the team to have a conversation about liquidity in the commercial real estate market. Jim walks us through what he is seeing in terms of transaction volume, compares the current market to other financial crises, and dives into the thought process of special servicers who had to manage an influx of hotel loans. We also discuss what will happen to the office and retail markets.
Episode Notes:
• Auction marketplace and process (3:06)
• Vibe check: managing a special servicing company during covid (5:10)
• Liquidity in the CRE market (7:05)
• Comparison to other financial crises (8:33)
• Hotels in special servicing (11:07)
• What is happening to office? (15:00)
• Retail after the pandemic (21:59)
• Multifamily: will we see the same trends as in single-family homes? (26:13)
• Real estate infrastructure and software (27:30)
• Where is the distress? (32:04)
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May 12, 2021 • 40min
80. A Grab Bag of Retail and Office Headlines, Inflation Confirmation
In this week’s episode, we discuss the latest data that confirms inflation is a real issue. But, is it a short-term reopen shock? We also spend some time digging into the current state of the retail market: street-level retail update, mall owners throwing in the towel, REITs adding tenants, mall traffic data, and more. Lastly, we run through office stories and the April loan payoff report and what it means for investors.
Episode Notes:
• Inflation confirmation (1:00)
• Retail round-up (11:35)
• L-brands spinoff (17:47)
• Simon Property Group earnings (19:22)
• Office stories (22:06)
• April Payoff Report (30:25)
• Why do CMBS investors care about payoffs (32:43)
• Shoutouts (36:10)
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May 7, 2021 • 48min
79. End of 1031 Exchange?, REIT Earnings, Retail Rundown, Delinquency Report
In this week’s episode, Manus and Joe run through the highs and lows of the week, and the things that keep them up at night. We review a single-asset single-borrower retail deal in the works, green shoots and crabgrass in retail, more news for firms returning (or not) to their offices, and the latest delinquency rates. The team dives into an update on the Eviction Moratorium and 1031 Exchange and reviews multifamily REIT Earnings.
Episode Notes:
Highs and lows of the week (1:00)
SASB retail deal in the works (8:52)
Green shoots and crabgrass in retail (16:15)
Deal of the Week (21:06)
Delinquency rates (22:59)
Office news: WeWork (25:06)
Firms returning (or not) to their offices (28:27)
Eviction Moratorium update (31:31)
Multifamily REIT earnings (32:59)
1031 Exchange on the chopping block? (37:54)
Shoutouts (45:47)
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Apr 30, 2021 • 49min
78. Homeless Hotels, Tech Titans’ Office Demand, Retail Trend Reversal
In this week’s episode, we dive into the latest positive signs for street-level retail following the announcement that all business restrictions in New York will be lifted this summer. We also discuss the list of New York City hotels that have been used for homeless shelters throughout the pandemic, downgrades for mall loans, and how much office demand will be forthcoming for the Tech Titans.
Episode Notes:
Fed’s monetary policy update (0:49)
Positive signs for street-level retail (9:14)
SL Green earnings (12:48)
The reopening of restaurants (15:32)
Downgrades for mall loans (17:34)
New York office news (20:09)
Homeless hotels in Midtown Manhattan (21:36)
Office demand for the Tech Titans (24:35)
Companies returning to the office (33:08)
Deal of the Week (40:35)
Shoutouts (42:37)
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Apr 23, 2021 • 48min
77. Check-In on COVID Delinquencies, End of Retail Apocalypse?, Office Vacancies, Student Housing
With servicer data slowly showing signs of how the pandemic impacted commercial real estate, it is time to look at last year's delinquencies and whether these loans are starting to "cure" or pay off. In this week’s episode, we preview the current status of loans that were delinquent during the height of the COVID market crisis, review office vacancies, and give an update on the retail apocalypse and the student housing and single-family rental markets.
Episode Notes:
Weekly economic update (0:48)
Where are last year’s delinquent loans now? (6:38)
Government offices shrinking space (10:04)
Office vacancies (15:23)
Positive office headlines (19:28)
“Retail apocalypse” update (21:25)
Hotel news (32:06)
Multifamily occupancy analysis, student-housing (39:53)
Single-family rental market (43:31)
Shoutouts (45:25)
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Apr 17, 2021 • 53min
76. Good, Bad, & Ugly Office News, Solid Bank Earnings, Retail Property Sales
In this week’s episode, we dig into the recovery that the latest Fed economic survey found is “broad-based across industries” and highlight solid big bank earnings. We also review recent office headlines that can fall into good, bad, and ugly categories. We discuss movement in the retail sector in terms of property sales and more stories of occupancy declines for multifamily properties.
Episode Notes:
• Economic recovery, retail sales, interest rates(0:51)
• Q1 bank earnings (8:54)
• Office: Good, bad, and ugly (16:14)
• Retail property sales(29:25)
• Drops in multifamily occupancy(35:20)
• Hotel purchase(42:58)
• Deal of the Week (45:59)
• Shoutouts (49:31)
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Apr 9, 2021 • 49min
75. Hotel & Multifamily Distress Across the U.S., Spike in CRE CLO Demand, Retail Round-Up
In this week’s episode, Trepp’s Head of CMBS, Darren King joins us to analyze the spike in demand for commercial real estate CLOs in Q1 2021. We take a tour across the U.S., where different geographies saw vastly different impacts from COVID-19 in terms of multifamily occupancy and lodging distress rates. We also walk through special servicing data and the latest in retail and CMBX 6.
Episode Notes:
Economic update (1:06)
Spike in demand for CRE CLOs (5:10)
Multifamily occupancy analysis: different impacts across U.S. (17:35)
NYC budget and condo/co-op tax (26:41)
Recovery for the hotel sector, where is the distress? (29:02)
Special servicing update (31:17)
Latest retail headlines and CMBX 6 update (36:29)
Deals of the Week (43:06)
Shoutouts (46:05)
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Apr 5, 2021 • 36min
74. Global Investing in Commercial Real Estate with David Bitner, Cushman & Wakefield
In a special guest episode, we welcome David Bitner, Global Head of Capital Markets Insights at Cushman & Wakefield to discuss the firm’s latest Signal Report: The Global Guide to CRE Investing. David and Manus review the global outlook for CRE, areas of strength for retail, the painful lag in business travel, and thoughts on residential real estate. David also shares hidden investment opportunities and surprises.
Episode Notes:
The Signal Report: Global Guide to CRE Investing in 2021 (1:39)
Interest rate risk (6:15)
Global outlook (9:55)
Canary in the coalmine (13:05)
Post-pandemic property type analysis (15:56)
Areas of strength for retail (18:21)
A painful lag in business travel (19:04)
Residential real estate (20:57)
Office market opinions (25:55)
Hidden investment opportunities and surprises (32:55)
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Apr 2, 2021 • 47min
73. Fresh Bank CRE Loan & CMBS Delinquency Data, Falling Multifamily Occupancy, Hotel & Sports
In this week's episode, the team examines new economic data which shows choppy progress. We dive into CMBS delinquency rates and give listeners a sneak peek at the latest bank CRE loan performance and multifamily occupancy data. It was a heavy sports day for the team: we talk about some hotels that are struggling without live sports and also get excited for MLB Opening Day, the Masters, and college basketball.
Episode Notes:
Economic update: Jobs anticipation, Archegos (1:01)
CMBS delinquencies (6:38)
Return to the office (11:53)
Multifamily occupancy (22:23)
Retail vacancies (26:51)
Hotels: hurt by travel and live sports fans (31:40)
Bank CRE loan performance (36:25)
Deal of the Week (38:34)
Shoutouts (41:11)
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