

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Episodes
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Dec 10, 2021 • 45min
112. Post-COVID Property Valuations, Hotel Transactions, Office Occupancy
In this week’s episode, we look at the hospitality transaction market which has been busy recently, with the sales providing insight into post-COVID valuations. Then, we turn to the office sector where we see signs of occupancy rebounding and highlight several important Trading Alerts. Lastly, we share some positive and negative retail news and dive into our latest property value analysis.
Episode Notes:
Omicron news and Fed update (0:21)
Hotel transactions (5:10)
Office occupancy and headlines (12:13)
Shorting office? Positive stories (23:57)
Deed-in-lieu for large office loan (30:01)
Retail green shoot and crabgrass (34:49)
Property values analysis: https://www.trepp.com/trepptalk/commercial-property-values-pain-retail-catches-breath(38:27)
Shoutouts (40:22)
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Dec 2, 2021 • 49min
111. Hotel Loan Cures, Mixed Office News, Green Shoots in the Metaverse
In this week’s episode, we discuss significant market swings and what is driving the rebound. Our theme this week revolves around several large cures in the hotel market. We also note some major office headlines and explain what is going on in the metaverse... In CMBS, we break down the latest delinquency numbers and dive into the issuance number which sets a post-GFC record. Listen here.
Episode Notes:
• Market swing, what is dominating the rebound (0:21)
• Breaking down the delinquency report (7:48)
• Issuance sets post-GFC issuance (14:30)
• Hotel green shoots and loan cures (21:47)
• CMBX 7 Chicago loan cured (25:55)
• More hotel cures (31:00)
• Office foot traffic (32:51)
• Office headlines (37:55)
• Digital land in the metaverse (41:10)
• Life insurance commercial mortgage returns(44:52)
• Shoutouts and Miami podcast (46:35)
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Nov 23, 2021 • 44min
110. Black Friday Bonanza, Retail Worries; What's Weighing on the Markets?
As Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and the holiday season approach The TreppWire Podcast team thought it was time to dive into the retail market. In this week’s episode, we analyze what is weighing on the economic markets right now, then we turn to our “Black Friday” special where we review retail earnings, worries, and CMBS Trading Alerts. We highlight a few other interesting stories for multifamily and hotels and close by sharing what we are thankful for this season compared to last season (episode 48 for reference). Happy Thanksgiving!
Episode Notes:
Economic Update (0:20)
What is weighing the markets down right now?(0:55)
Retail earnings and headwinds (5:35)
Trading Alerts: bond prices moved for particular deals (24:38)
Other property type headlines (30:45)
Reflecting on last year (37:55)
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Nov 19, 2021 • 40min
109. Retail Renaissance or False Start? “Next Big Short” CMBX 6 Update, Office Green Shoots
For every negative headline this week there seemed to be a positive. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into the green shoots and crabgrass focusing on trends in retail earnings, an update on the retail-heavy CMBX indices, and positive signs for the office market. We also review the increased demand in the single-family rental market.
Episode Notes:
• Economic news (0:20)
• Mall revival and retail earnings (0:55)
• Retail-heavy CMBX 6 and 7 update (10:33)
• Green shoots in retail headlines (15:39)
• CVS closures (18:38)
• Office crabgrass (21:17)
• Greenshoots (29:17)
• Must-Know of the Week (31:46)
• Single-family rental demand growth (33:15)
• Shoutouts (35:04)
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Nov 11, 2021 • 31min
108. Navigating Challenges in CRE: Business Workouts & Receiverships with Douglas Wilson Companies
In this week’s episode, we welcome Douglas Wilson, CEO and Chairman of Douglas Wilson Companies, to discuss challenges in commercial real estate and how to navigate them. We dive into what it means to be a receiver, the four types of receiverships, and compare financial crises over time. We also discuss the health and outlook for different property sectors and finally, touch on what may be the next tipping point of concern for the market. Listen now.
Episode Notes:
What does it mean to be a receiver? (4:14)
Four types of receiverships (6:35)
How often does the alignment get unaligned? (8:00)
No two crises are the same: comparing downturns (10:07)
Strategies when dealing with different lenders and players (13:50)
Changes since COVID, market liquidity (16:15)
Different property sectors – health & outlook (23:25)
Fallout from China (26:30)
Next tipping point of concern (28:25)
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Nov 5, 2021 • 38min
107. Office & Hotel Must-Knows, Brick-and-Meta Retail, Milestone COVID Delinquency Rate
In this week’s episode, our team weighs in on the latest mixed economic data and covers the falling CMBS delinquency rate that hit a new milestone in the pandemic era. We also discuss green shoot stories for office, our Deal of the Week, and recent must-know activity in the hotel market.
Stick around as we talk luxury handbags and try to wrap our heads around NFT McRibs and metaverse sneakers.
Episode Notes:
• Mixed round of economic data (0:20)
• CMBS delinquency rate hits new milestone (6:27)
• Office green shoots with some crabgrass (11:19)
• Deal of the Week: Houston office (15:05)
• Must-Know: Amazon in Jersey City (16:54)
• Bankruptcy Trading Alert (18:06)
• Activity in the hotel sector (22:16)
• Green shoots and new developments (27:00)
• Retail data points (28:43)
• Shoutouts + NFT McRibs and MetaVerse Sneakers (34:14)
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Oct 29, 2021 • 45min
106. Signs of Life in Chicago Office, Life Science Sector on Fire, Quarterly Data Review
In this week’s episode, Orest Mandzy, Managing Editor of CRE Direct joins to discuss our Quarterly Data Review, a recap of the top CRE and CMBS data from the quarter. We also talk about a big Trading Alert that represents a positive for the Chicago office market, discuss the health sciences sector that is heating up, and cover mall loan liquidations.
Download the Quarterly Data Review here: https://www.trepp.com/q3-2021-quarterly-data-review
Episode Notes:
Economic news, spending bill (0:25)
Quarterly Data Review: CMBS rankings and risk retention 101 (6:29)
Update on 2017 loan that cured (17:26)
Shopping mall liquidations/resolutions (19:24)
Trading Alert: Chicago Office Under Contract – Sale Price 80% Higher Than Most Recent Value (22:37)
Health sciences heating up (31:10)
Deals of the Week (35:43)
Shoutouts (39:56)
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Oct 22, 2021 • 47min
105. Uptick in Hotel Activity, Scariest Macro Issues, Near-Record Issuance Levels
Near term market outlook is positive but elevated prices, supply chain problems, a shortage of workers, and the Delta Variant are creating uncertainty. In this week's episode, we discuss the scariest macroeconomic issues in terms of impact on commercial real estate. Darren King, Trepp’s Head of CMBS joins us to discuss the almost-record CMBS issuance and explains what is happening in the conduit market. We then dive into the latest hotel activity stories and review hotel losses from the last decade.
Episode Notes:
Market news (0:25)
What is the scariest macro issue for CRE? (5:40)
CMBS and CRE CLO issuance update (13:43)
What can supply the conduit pipeline going forward (18:30)
An uptick in hotel activity (24:06)
Hotel losses in the last decade (34:37)
Shoutouts (43:00)
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Oct 16, 2021 • 45min
104. Wave of Office Downsizings, Mall Loan Extensions, Bank Earnings
In this week's episode, we go behind the headlines of the latest bank earnings and economic news. In commercial real estate and CMBS, we dive into a wave of negative office downsizing stories, several retail Trading Alerts about mall loan extensions, and some office sales and signings. Tune in for our discussion of the death of the fun-sized candy bar.
Episode Notes:
Fed tapering, economic update (0:20)
Office loans with expiring leases (8:14)
Office crabgrass: downsizings (10:14)
Alarming Chicago office news (16:08)
Office green shoots, sales & signings, positive signs in Atlanta (18:15)
Price moving event: mall loan extension (23:53)
Retail and hotel trading alerts (29:45)
Bank Earnings, behind the headlines (35:20)
Shoutouts (41:17)
Halloween 2021 (42:38)
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Oct 7, 2021 • 42min
103. Making Sense of D.C. & CRE with Mike Flood, Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA)
In this episode, we welcome back special guest, Mike Flood, Senior Vice President of Commercial/Multifamily Policy and Member Engagement at the Mortgage Bankers Association to give us a round-up of the latest regulations and how they currently are impacting (and potentially will impact) commercial real estate. We discuss taxes, infrastructure, and the debt ceiling, and then dive into the multifamily sector, banking areas to watch, and insurance lending and ESG. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
Taxes, infrastructure, and the debt ceiling (0:45)
Spending Bill: impact on CRE (6:45)
Multifamily sector (15:01)
Revision of GSE conservatorship capital framework (20:54)
HUD and FFB: Affordable housing (27:03)
Banking areas to watch (30:41)
Climate-related issues for insurers (34:45)
ESG lending (38:31)
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