

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Episodes
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Aug 25, 2023 • 50min
211. Multifamily Comps Galore; Retail Earnings Concerns; Interest Rates Level Off Ahead of Fed Talk
Economic update, retail stories, multifamily news, office headlines, industrial green shoot, bank downgrade assessment, and shoutouts are covered in this episode of a commercial real estate show. Topics include retail earnings concerns, multifamily comps, apartment loans heading to special servicing, and office valuation reductions.

Aug 17, 2023 • 47min
210. Late Summer Blues: Can Rising Treasury Yields Stall the CRE Markets?
Retailers and banks were the focus this week as retail sales and earnings dominated the news and talks of higher capital requirements for banks took a bite out of bank shares. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we back the latest macroeconomic news into commercial real estate and discuss if we think CRE is on an island of its own. We dive into a mix of office stories, multifamily news, retail headlines, and new loan originations Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update (0:23)
• Backing the macro into CRE: CRE is an island (9:41)
• Office stories across the board (15:16)
• Multifamily news (31:14)
• Retail stories (35:31)
• Recent loan originations (36:40)
• Office comps (40:31)
• Shoutouts (42:07)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Aug 11, 2023 • 55min
209. Soft Landing Doesn’t Mean No Turbulence; WeWork Exposure; Where to Hide in CMBS
This week, economic data suggested the Fed might actually pull off a soft landing, but that won’t come without some turbulence. In this episode, we talk about the WeWork news and the firm’s CRE exposure, where investors can hide amid growing market distress, and the latest macroeconomic data. We also break down a potpourri of office stories, and some news for healthcare and industrial properties. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update (0:23)
• Small balance delinquencies (9:41)
• WeWork news and CRE exposure (15:27)
• Office stories (22:26)
• Retail store closings (39:50)
• Healthcare story (41:50)
• Industrial deal (46:57)
• Shoutouts (49:13)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Aug 2, 2023 • 43min
208. Ringing in August with CRE Green Shoots; What Can Go Wrong?
In this week’s episode, we ‘ring’ in a new month with some green shoots for the commercial real estate market. The team explains why they are either buyers or sellers given the latest data. We run through the latest CMBS delinquency readings, retail news, office headlines, and more on multifamily expense data. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Positive news, what can go wrong?(0:23)
• CMBS delinquencies (12:39)
• Retail news to know(15:36)
• Office crabgrass (22:18
• Office green shoots (26:03)
• More on multifamily expenses (34:16)
• Shoutouts (35:46)
• Buyers or sellers in the market (38:30)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jul 28, 2023 • 52min
207. Frisky Business: Solid Economic Data, Stocks Surging, CRE Sales. Are we Back?
There was a lot to like about the latest earnings numbers, economic data, and stock movement, but what does it all mean for CRE? In this week’s episode, we break down the ‘friskiness’ in the market following some positive signs. In CRE, we talk about a positive self-storage story, a mix of green shoots and crab grass for office, and retail news to note. Tune in now.
This episode is sponsored by BetterPitch: www.betterpitch.com.
Episode Notes:
• Positive economic news (0:23)
• What does it mean for CRE? (10:42)
• Self-storage company sold (15:48)
• Office crabgrass (19:21)
• Subleases (23:55)
• Office green shoots (28:17)
• Retail mixed bag (35:52)
• Bank CRE loan performance (43:09)
• Shoutouts (43:59)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jul 20, 2023 • 51min
206. Irrational Exuberance in the Markets?; Property Transfers & Deed-in-Lieu; Multifamily Expenses
The markets seem to have gone from optimistic to exuberant over the last two weeks... In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss whether we are seeing 'irrational exuberance' yet, then dive into housing starts, jobless claims, retail sales, and bank earnings. In CRE, we break down several large office and retail stories, discuss more on multifamily syndicators, and take a look at property expense data across the US. Tune in now.
This episode of The TreppWire Podcast is sponsored by BetterPitch: https://www.betterpitch.com/
Episode Notes:
Irrational exuberance in the market? (0:23)
Macro data (4:09)
Bank earnings (9:27)
Government office occupancy (12:57)
Trepp Flash: Lead cable exposure (14:23)
Office value reduction (16:05)
Brutal sales comps (18:26)
Deed in lieus (20:30)
Office loans in special servicing (26:02)
Retail stories (3:48)
Multifamily syndicator follow-up (36:52)
Multifamily property expenses (41:48)
Shoutouts (45:14)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jul 12, 2023 • 51min
205. Risk On! Inflection Point or False Flag? Enthusiasm Everywhere, Bearishness in Short Supply
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, after the CPI and PPI readings came in, we question if the rally and equity pile on was the start of something bigger or a sign of participants getting ahead of themselves. We discuss borrowers handing back the keys, multifamily CRE CLO borrowing, bank earnings, and big stories for hotels, office valuations, subleases, and retail. Tune in now.
This episode is sponsored by BetterPitch: https://www.betterpitch.com/
Episode Notes:
- Economic update: CPI, PPI, company earnings (0:23)
- Risk back on, inflection or false start? (7:53)
- Multifamily CRE CLO borrowing (13:26)
- CRE borrowers handing back keys (17:52)
- Bank earnings (22:05)
- Ashford’s plans for $1B portfolio (23:59)
- Hotel stories (30:46)
- Office valuation cut (33:22)
- Subleases (35:46)
- Retail news (41:20)
- Shoutouts (47:48)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jul 6, 2023 • 44min
204. No Holiday Lull for CRE: Comps Galore, Big Office News, H1 CMBS Recap
Although we expected a lull in market news and data during the holiday week, that was not the case for CRE. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we start with macro news that made headlines: jobs numbers, personal expenditures, and Treasury yields. We have a lot to cover in CRE with some large office stories, more sales comps across property types for the market to chew on, and a first half of 2023 CMBS recap of issuance, spreads, and pricing data. Buckle up for a ‘Live Wire.’ Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic update (0:23)
• First-half 2023 CMBS recap (6:40)
• Trepp Property Price Index (12:17)
• Office Trading Alert (14:00)
• Philly office stories (18:03)
• Subleases (23:20)
• Green shoots (27:15)
• Crabgrass (28:27)
• CRE loan maturities (31:10)
• Comps, comps, comps (32:51)
• Shoutouts (39:10)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jun 29, 2023 • 53min
203. Comps Comps Comps, Sales Comps Dominate News; Delinquencies Rise
There was plenty of positive economic data to digest this week, all while Fed Chair Powell was “taking the punch bowl away,” commenting that more rate hikes may be necessary. In this week’s episode, we break it down. And in CRE, there were several large (and unpleasant) comps for investors to digest. We also analyze Trepp’s latest delinquency report; examine defeasance, yield maintenance, and discounted prepayments; and talk about a large industrial story. Tune in now.
Episode Notes:
• Economic updates (0:23)
• Defeasance, yield maintenance, discounted prepayments (10:02)
• Bed Bath & Beyond auction(15:12)
• Trepp CMBS delinquency report (18:10)
• Office green shoots (22:50)
• Office crabgrass (28:26)
• Sales comps across the U.S. (33:46)
• Multifamily net operating income (41:42)
• Prologis + Blackstone(44:18)
• Shoutouts (47:51)
Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jun 22, 2023 • 47min
202. Did Fed Pause Stall the Market? New Issue Pricing & Property Sector Rapid-Fire Rundown
In this episode, we discuss what we saw in the markets, starting with stocks hitting a wall after Fed Chair Powell indicated that more interest rate hikes were necessary. In CMBS, we dive into new issue pricing that provides market clarity. We also have a lot of CRE news to cover; a large apartment loan going to special servicing, office valuation reductions, some signs of life for the NYC office market, and several stories in industrial and life sciences.
Episode Notes:
• Economic updates (0:23)
• New issue pricing (7:39)
• Multifamily news (13:15)
• Office valuations (18:29)
• Office stories (20:29)
• Signs of life for NYC office (23:20)
• Retail green shoots (27:18)
• Negative retail news (29:02)
• Industrial headline (32:11)
• Life science stories (32:57)
• Shoutouts (38:29)


