
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Latest episodes

Jun 13, 2025 • 48min
334. CREFC Optimism, Market Uncertainty, Special Servicing Uptick & Notable Transactions
This week features a recap of the CREFC conference, highlighting a mix of optimism and market uncertainty. The analysis of recent economic data reveals that while CPI is lower, rate cuts remain unlikely due to job market stability. A review of special servicing shows a notable uptick. Listeners will also discover exciting commercial transactions—including Walmart's massive office lease and Live Nation's $1 billion venue expansion plan—and trends in the multifamily sector that could reshape the landscape.

Jun 10, 2025 • 31min
333. Trading Through Cycles: Whole Loan Market Insights with John Toohig, Raymond James
John Toohig, Managing Director at Raymond James and a veteran in whole loan trading, shares his wealth of knowledge shaped by experiences through major financial upheavals. He discusses the current landscape of secondary loan markets and the regulatory shifts impacting bank lending. The conversation delves into challenges in residential mortgages, new opportunities in commercial real estate, and the dynamics of return-to-office trends. Toohig also offers his outlook for the market through 2025, emphasizing resilience and strategic adaptation.

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Jun 6, 2025 • 46min
332. Jobs Jitters, Jamie Dimon's Warning, Wells Fargo Unleashed, NYC Office Market Revival, & Green Shoots Across Sectors
The podcast dives into the shaky ADP jobs report and Jamie Dimon's chilling warning about possible bond market issues. Listeners hear about Wells Fargo's lifted asset cap and the surge in home equity withdrawals. Exciting NYC office acquisitions by Blackstone and Tishman Speyer signal a market revival. There's discussion on office conversions outpacing new builds and the Chrysler Building hitting the market after nearly a decade. Positive trends in retail, multifamily, and industrial sectors also get a spotlight.

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May 30, 2025 • 46min
331. Economic Exhaustion, Office-to-Resi Momentum, CRE CLO Comeback, & Multifamily Green Shoots
This discussion dives into the volatile landscape of commercial real estate, emphasizing the impact of tariffs on consumer confidence. The trend of transforming offices into residential spaces gains momentum, with impressive projects planned in major cities. Financial challenges are spotlighted with a Kansas City office loan liquidation and a struggling shopping center loan. Meanwhile, the multifamily market shows encouraging signs in cities like Seattle and Brooklyn, along with a massive CRE CLO deal from Greystone, highlighting the complexities and opportunities in today's market.

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May 28, 2025 • 39min
330. Go Where the Herd Isn’t: CRE Multifamily Insights & Realities with Sam Tenenbaum, Cushman & Wakefield
Sam Tenenbaum, Head of Multifamily Research at Cushman & Wakefield, brings his expertise to the table, shedding light on current trends in the multifamily real estate market. He discusses the evolving Austin market dynamics and contrasts them with other cities. Tariffs' impacts on industrial and retail sectors are explored, revealing a complex interplay between supply and demand. Tenenbaum also delves into consumer borrowing conditions, rising delinquency rates, and the added pressure of increasing insurance costs, providing a comprehensive view of the multifamily landscape.

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May 23, 2025 • 53min
329. America Downgraded: What Does it Mean? Appraisal Reductions and Trading Alerts Served with a Side of Optimism
Dive into the implications of Moody's downgrade of the U.S. credit rating and mixed economic signals. Discover how Walmart thrives while Target faces challenges in retail performance. Explore the struggles of a Bay Area mall and encouraging leasing activities in Natick Mall. Witness the resilience in the office market with a significant Manhattan acquisition. Lastly, a major Phoenix hotel sale marks a bright spot amid ongoing value reductions in commercial properties. It's a mix of optimism and caution in the ever-evolving landscape of commercial real estate.

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May 20, 2025 • 35min
328. Commercial Lending & Investing Through Market Changes with Red Oak CEO Gary Bechtel
Gary Bechtel, CEO of Red Oak Capital Holdings, shares his impressive journey through the commercial mortgage industry with over 39 years of experience. He discusses the cyclical nature of real estate finance and highlights key trends in office space conversion and multifamily lending. Bechtel reveals his outlook for the capital markets over the next year and emphasizes the need for transparency in lending. The conversation also ventures into the surprising connections between his passion for yacht racing and the adrenaline of real estate transactions.

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May 16, 2025 • 38min
327. Property Type Perspectives, Executive CRE Sentiment & Some Greenshoots: Trepp Connect (in NYC)
Highlights from a recent commercial real estate event showcase cautious optimism among executives despite market uncertainty. Discussion includes key economic indicators like inflation and treasury yields impacting property sectors. Amazon makes headlines with a $456 million office purchase, while retail earnings are seen as crucial for gauging consumer strength. Notable resilience surfaces through strong retail transactions and industrial market trends, pointing to ongoing investment interest in self-storage and significant property sales.

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May 9, 2025 • 51min
326. Does Slow & Steady Win the Race? Fed Holds Rates, Updated Office Stats, & A Unique Multifamily Case Study
Explore the latest economic signals, including strong job data and the Fed's steady interest rates amidst inflation worries. Discover Brookfield's bold $5.9 billion fundraising for distressed properties and the challenges of Penn Station's redevelopment. Dive into the multifamily market, featuring a Texas loan in trouble right after origination. Examine troubling delinquency rates in key office markets and the strategic recapitalization of Harwood International's Dallas portfolio. This is a deep dive into the commercial real estate landscape!

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May 2, 2025 • 45min
325. The Macro Seesaw: Mixed Economic Signals, CMBS Issuance History, Rising Delinquencies & Industrial Sales
The podcast dives into the latest mixed economic signals, analyzing fresh inflation reports and job market uncertainties. It highlights a troubling rise in CMBS delinquencies, especially in the lodging and office sectors. Plans for Deloitte's shiny new HQ at Hudson Yards bring some positivity, while discussions around 'zombie buildings' in Chicago reveal darker market challenges. Plus, intriguing updates on industrial transactions, including a significant warehouse portfolio sale, keep the commercial real estate landscape dynamic.