
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Latest episodes

Apr 25, 2025 • 53min
324. Unpacking Uncertainty: Economic Outlook, CMBS Origination Uptick, NYC Office Leases
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, weunpack the mixed economic data and evolving policy rhetoric keeping markets on edge. We analyze the latest release from the Fed’s Beige Book and its implications for commercial real estate (CRE) lenders navigating an uncertain market. We cover the ongoing impact of tariffs and the International Monetary Fund's forecast, jobless claims, and the slowdown in the labor market. We lookat 2025 CMBS Issuance and Origination numbers, highlighting the property types with the most activity and the regions leading the way. We discuss Amazon's massive office lease in Midtown Manhattan, and the trends in Class Boffice space and leasing volume in NYC. We end with several office, mixed-use, and retail loans transferred to special servicing, along with a significant multifamily transaction from Cammeby’s. Tune in now.Episode Notes· Economic Update (0:27)· Jobless Claims & Labor Market (9:00)· 2025 CMBS Issuance & Origination Stats (17:03)· Office Stories: Amazon, Manhattan Class B Office (22:49)· Office Trading Alert: LA Office Loan (29:42)· Mixed-Use Trading Alert: Midtown Manhattan Loan (34:09)· Retail Trading Alert: D.C. Mall Loan (36:56)· MultifamilyTransactions: Cammeby's Apartment Purchase (42:25)· Programming Notes (46:08)· Shoutouts (47:48) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp:X: www.x.com/TreppWireLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

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Apr 22, 2025 • 57min
323. Commercially Speaking: How Bo & Timmy Barron Make CRE Accessible
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Bo and Timmy Barron, cohosts of the Commercially Speaking Podcast, a show that breaks down commercial real estate concepts in a clear and entertaining way. Bo, a Certified Commercial Investment Member (CCIM) instructor and CEO of Barron Commercial Group, shares his journey from the Marine Corps to brokerage, while Timmy brings his background in acting and content creation to the table. We explore how their podcast has transformed their business, the power of educational content, and insights on market resilience, hyperlocal market trends, and the role of AI in CRE. We close with strategies for identifying opportunities, surprising market takeaways, and their outlook for what's ahead. Tune in now. Episode Notes:- Meet the Guests: Bo and Timmy Barron (00:18)- Bo Barron's Journey in Commercial Real Estate (03:51)- Timmy Barron's Acting Career and Podcasting (05:37)- Impact of Social Media and Content Creation (12:20)- Consistency and Resiliency in Commercial Real Estate (24:54)- Self Storage Market Dynamics (28:23)- Challenges and Opportunities in Growing Cities (36:47)- The Role of AI in Commercial Real Estate (49:12)Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWireLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

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Apr 18, 2025 • 49min
322. Data Tells All: Powell’s Play, Market Uncertainty, Loan Spreads, & CRE Transactions
Inflation data and its impact on market sentiment steal the spotlight. Insights from Jerome Powell reveal uncertainty ahead, juxtaposed with unexpectedly strong retail sales. The discussion dives into challenges facing mall refinancing, spotlighting the Houston Galleria. Additionally, multifamily real estate transactions showcase resilience amid economic hurdles. Finally, the hosts highlight trends in loan spreads and the latest bank earnings, painting a complex picture of the commercial real estate landscape.

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Apr 11, 2025 • 57min
321. Be Cool: Talking Tariff Reversals & CRE Implications, Special Servicing, Industrial Transactions, & More
Explore the recent turbulence in financial markets driven by changing tariff policies and economic data. Discover insights into how these tariffs may impact various property sectors and consumer prices. Gain clarity on the slow recovery of apartment rent growth and the recent significant multifamily transactions. Delve into major industrial real estate deals, including noteworthy acquisitions by Blackstone. Finally, hear about the complexities of loan defaults in the multifamily market and updates on exciting upcoming events.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 30min
320. From Skyscrapers to Sublets: NYC Leasing Market with Ruth Colp-Haber
Ruth Colp-Haber, President of Wharton Property Advisors and a tenant representation expert, shares her insights on the dynamic New York City office leasing market. She discusses the impact of hybrid work models and the evolving use of office spaces post-pandemic. Ruth also reveals her success in the sublease market during COVID and offers advice for aspiring brokers to build reputation and expertise. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by small businesses and the importance of adaptability in today’s leasing landscape.

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Apr 4, 2025 • 51min
319. Liberation or Uncertainty? Tariff News, CMBS Delinquencies Back Up, & CRE CLO Issuance
Discover the economic impact of recent tariff announcements and their ripple effects on commercial real estate. Hear about Microsoft’s pullback on data centers and SimonCRE’s ambitious retail plans. Explore rising CMBS delinquency numbers by property type and a major $1.1 billion CRE CLO deal by TPG RE Finance Trust. Learn about notable office transactions and industrial acquisitions in Florida and Washington amidst evolving market dynamics. Plus, get details on an upcoming conference for networking and education in the industry.

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Mar 28, 2025 • 53min
318. Perturbative Data: Consumer Confidence Slides, More Government Cuts, Park Ave's Persistent Premium, & Multifamily Price Points
The podcast dives into the latest economic indicators revealing a split in manufacturing and services sectors. It discusses the drop in consumer confidence and its impact on housing affordability, alongside Cuomo's shifting stance on rent reforms as he vies for mayor. The show highlights significant developments on NYC's Park Avenue, spearheaded by JPMorgan, and examines the strict foreclosure processes affecting an office property in Stamford, CT. Key insights into Dollar Tree's sale of Family Dollar and multifamily market trends round out this engaging discussion.

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Mar 25, 2025 • 36min
317. From the Top: CEO Annemarie DiCola on Trepp's Evolution from CMBS Pioneer to CRE Data Leader
Annemarie DiCola, CEO of Trepp and a seasoned expert in structured finance, shares her inspiring journey from commercial real estate attorney to industry leader. She dives into Trepp's pivotal role in standardizing the CMBS market and how the firm supported financial institutions through the Great Financial Crisis. Annemarie discusses current trends in the office sector and the significance of understanding maturities and delinquencies. She also offers invaluable career insights and leadership lessons for professionals navigating challenging market dynamics.

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Mar 21, 2025 • 59min
316. March CRE Madness: Transitory Bounce, Retail Rebound, FOMC Meeting & Trading Alerts
The latest discussion dives into the Fed's decision to maintain interest rates, reviving the term 'transitory' amid economic uncertainty. Retail sales show an uptick, but the sector still faces challenges driven by a potential economic slowdown. Florida's proposal to eliminate property taxes adds an intriguing twist to the housing market. Significant value drops in Midtown retail properties are highlighted, and Wayfair's pivot to physical stores is worth noting. The celebration of five years of insights wraps up the conversation with reflections on market evolution.

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Mar 18, 2025 • 33min
315. The Business of Talent & Leadership in CRE: A Conversation with Bill Ferguson
Bill Ferguson, Co-Chairman and CEO of Ferguson Partners, shares his wealth of experience in talent management within the commercial real estate sector. He discusses navigating market downturns and the evolving leadership dynamics shaped by recent economic shifts. Ferguson highlights the importance of mentorship and philanthropy, emphasizing his commitment to inspiring the next generation of diverse real estate leaders. His insights on resilience and strategic adaptability offer a roadmap for aspiring professionals seeking success in a challenging environment.
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