
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking.
Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants.
Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
Latest episodes

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May 20, 2025 • 35min
328. Commercial Lending & Investing Through Market Changes with Red Oak CEO Gary Bechtel
Gary Bechtel, CEO of Red Oak Capital Holdings, shares his impressive journey through the commercial mortgage industry with over 39 years of experience. He discusses the cyclical nature of real estate finance and highlights key trends in office space conversion and multifamily lending. Bechtel reveals his outlook for the capital markets over the next year and emphasizes the need for transparency in lending. The conversation also ventures into the surprising connections between his passion for yacht racing and the adrenaline of real estate transactions.

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May 16, 2025 • 38min
327. Property Type Perspectives, Executive CRE Sentiment & Some Greenshoots: Trepp Connect (in NYC)
Highlights from a recent commercial real estate event showcase cautious optimism among executives despite market uncertainty. Discussion includes key economic indicators like inflation and treasury yields impacting property sectors. Amazon makes headlines with a $456 million office purchase, while retail earnings are seen as crucial for gauging consumer strength. Notable resilience surfaces through strong retail transactions and industrial market trends, pointing to ongoing investment interest in self-storage and significant property sales.

May 9, 2025 • 51min
326. Does Slow & Steady Win the Race? Fed Holds Rates, Updated Office Stats, & A Unique Multifamily Case Study
Explore the latest economic signals, including strong job data and the Fed's steady interest rates amidst inflation worries. Discover Brookfield's bold $5.9 billion fundraising for distressed properties and the challenges of Penn Station's redevelopment. Dive into the multifamily market, featuring a Texas loan in trouble right after origination. Examine troubling delinquency rates in key office markets and the strategic recapitalization of Harwood International's Dallas portfolio. This is a deep dive into the commercial real estate landscape!

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May 2, 2025 • 45min
325. The Macro Seesaw: Mixed Economic Signals, CMBS Issuance History, Rising Delinquencies & Industrial Sales
The podcast dives into the latest mixed economic signals, analyzing fresh inflation reports and job market uncertainties. It highlights a troubling rise in CMBS delinquencies, especially in the lodging and office sectors. Plans for Deloitte's shiny new HQ at Hudson Yards bring some positivity, while discussions around 'zombie buildings' in Chicago reveal darker market challenges. Plus, intriguing updates on industrial transactions, including a significant warehouse portfolio sale, keep the commercial real estate landscape dynamic.

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Apr 25, 2025 • 53min
324. Unpacking Uncertainty: Economic Outlook, CMBS Origination Uptick, NYC Office Leases
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, weunpack the mixed economic data and evolving policy rhetoric keeping markets on edge. We analyze the latest release from the Fed’s Beige Book and its implications for commercial real estate (CRE) lenders navigating an uncertain market. We cover the ongoing impact of tariffs and the International Monetary Fund's forecast, jobless claims, and the slowdown in the labor market. We lookat 2025 CMBS Issuance and Origination numbers, highlighting the property types with the most activity and the regions leading the way. We discuss Amazon's massive office lease in Midtown Manhattan, and the trends in Class Boffice space and leasing volume in NYC. We end with several office, mixed-use, and retail loans transferred to special servicing, along with a significant multifamily transaction from Cammeby’s. Tune in now.Episode Notes· Economic Update (0:27)· Jobless Claims & Labor Market (9:00)· 2025 CMBS Issuance & Origination Stats (17:03)· Office Stories: Amazon, Manhattan Class B Office (22:49)· Office Trading Alert: LA Office Loan (29:42)· Mixed-Use Trading Alert: Midtown Manhattan Loan (34:09)· Retail Trading Alert: D.C. Mall Loan (36:56)· MultifamilyTransactions: Cammeby's Apartment Purchase (42:25)· Programming Notes (46:08)· Shoutouts (47:48) Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp:X: www.x.com/TreppWireLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

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Apr 22, 2025 • 57min
323. Commercially Speaking: How Bo & Timmy Barron Make CRE Accessible
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Bo and Timmy Barron, cohosts of the Commercially Speaking Podcast, a show that breaks down commercial real estate concepts in a clear and entertaining way. Bo, a Certified Commercial Investment Member (CCIM) instructor and CEO of Barron Commercial Group, shares his journey from the Marine Corps to brokerage, while Timmy brings his background in acting and content creation to the table. We explore how their podcast has transformed their business, the power of educational content, and insights on market resilience, hyperlocal market trends, and the role of AI in CRE. We close with strategies for identifying opportunities, surprising market takeaways, and their outlook for what's ahead. Tune in now. Episode Notes:- Meet the Guests: Bo and Timmy Barron (00:18)- Bo Barron's Journey in Commercial Real Estate (03:51)- Timmy Barron's Acting Career and Podcasting (05:37)- Impact of Social Media and Content Creation (12:20)- Consistency and Resiliency in Commercial Real Estate (24:54)- Self Storage Market Dynamics (28:23)- Challenges and Opportunities in Growing Cities (36:47)- The Role of AI in Commercial Real Estate (49:12)Please take our listener feedback survey: www.surveymonkey.com/r/BMPXLHG Questions or comments? Contact us at podcast@trepp.com. Follow Trepp: X: www.x.com/TreppWireLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/trepp

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Apr 18, 2025 • 49min
322. Data Tells All: Powell’s Play, Market Uncertainty, Loan Spreads, & CRE Transactions
Inflation data and its impact on market sentiment steal the spotlight. Insights from Jerome Powell reveal uncertainty ahead, juxtaposed with unexpectedly strong retail sales. The discussion dives into challenges facing mall refinancing, spotlighting the Houston Galleria. Additionally, multifamily real estate transactions showcase resilience amid economic hurdles. Finally, the hosts highlight trends in loan spreads and the latest bank earnings, painting a complex picture of the commercial real estate landscape.

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Apr 11, 2025 • 57min
321. Be Cool: Talking Tariff Reversals & CRE Implications, Special Servicing, Industrial Transactions, & More
Explore the recent turbulence in financial markets driven by changing tariff policies and economic data. Discover insights into how these tariffs may impact various property sectors and consumer prices. Gain clarity on the slow recovery of apartment rent growth and the recent significant multifamily transactions. Delve into major industrial real estate deals, including noteworthy acquisitions by Blackstone. Finally, hear about the complexities of loan defaults in the multifamily market and updates on exciting upcoming events.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 30min
320. From Skyscrapers to Sublets: NYC Leasing Market with Ruth Colp-Haber
Ruth Colp-Haber, President of Wharton Property Advisors and a tenant representation expert, shares her insights on the dynamic New York City office leasing market. She discusses the impact of hybrid work models and the evolving use of office spaces post-pandemic. Ruth also reveals her success in the sublease market during COVID and offers advice for aspiring brokers to build reputation and expertise. The conversation touches on the challenges faced by small businesses and the importance of adaptability in today’s leasing landscape.

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Apr 4, 2025 • 51min
319. Liberation or Uncertainty? Tariff News, CMBS Delinquencies Back Up, & CRE CLO Issuance
Discover the economic impact of recent tariff announcements and their ripple effects on commercial real estate. Hear about Microsoft’s pullback on data centers and SimonCRE’s ambitious retail plans. Explore rising CMBS delinquency numbers by property type and a major $1.1 billion CRE CLO deal by TPG RE Finance Trust. Learn about notable office transactions and industrial acquisitions in Florida and Washington amidst evolving market dynamics. Plus, get details on an upcoming conference for networking and education in the industry.