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Apr 12, 2024 • 45min

Ep 32: From Product Counseling at Apple & Meta to the Crypto World: Nguyen Vu, DGC, OKX

How do you realign your legal career in order to break into the tech industry and product counseling? What are the major differences between headline-grabbing big tech companies and ambitious start-ups? And should the goal of every in-house counsel be a GC title?Nguyen Vu, deputy general counsel at OKX, leveraged his persistence, skills, and showmanship to redefine himself as a tech attorney. Starting off as a lawyer working in telecoms regulation, Nguyen was able to land a major product role at Apple, become the “mini GC” of digital currency at Facebook, and lead international product teams at successful fintech and crypto startups.Hear Ngyuen as he shares the valuable lessons he’s learned about regulation, consumer protection, motivating your team, steering your career in the direction you want to take it, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-32Topics:Introduction: 0:00Beginning your career during the Great Recession: 3:21Moving beyond telecoms law: 6:10Landing a dream role at Apple: 9:07Coming into your own as a product attorney: 11:44Defining the role of a product counselor: 18:45Joining Facebook’s digital currency project: 20:10Getting off of career plateaus and joining Bolt: 25:06Navigating the difficulties of managing a legal team at a start-up: 28:43Encountering “Big Company Bias”: 31:34Becoming deputy general counsel at OKX: 36:33Book recommendations: 40:10Advice to your younger self: 41:36Connect with us:Nguyen Vu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nguyentvu/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Apr 9, 2024 • 1h 3min

Ep 31: Peak Legal Efficiency: Siddharth Manchanda, IndusLaw Partner & Unacademy External GC

 What challenges face the legal team at India’s largest learning platform as they expand beyond online classrooms? How do you execute one thousand new contracts a month, and still find time to problem solve and aid core function?Siddharth Manchanda, Partner at IndusLaw and External GC at Unacademy, has embraced tech and AI in order to free his team from the repetitive manual tasks borne from his company’s fast and massive growth. He’s found that increased efficiency is more than enough to shift the mindsets of traditional lawyers and business teams alike about the power and possibility  of tech solutions.Hear Siddharth as he discusses the legal perspective on India’s massive economic growth, dividing his time between an in-house and client services role, the future of legal tech, and more.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-31Topics:Introduction: 0:00Finding inspiration to practice law: 1:20Building a career in India’s tech sector during the Great Recession: 6:40Going in-house with Unacademy: 12:59Key learnings from a first in-house GC role: 17:13Considering the perception of legal within your organization: 22:21Reflecting on the early days at Unacademy: 28:32Marketing reduced contract drafting time internally: 36:32Predicting the future of legal tech: 39:14Using tech experience to change the way you deal with clients: 46:39Balancing a GC role with a law firm partnership: 49:51Advice to companies looking to enter the Indian market: 52:27What you wish you’d know as a young lawyer 59:00Connect with us:Siddharth Manchanda - https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharth-manchanda-0970801b/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Apr 4, 2024 • 56min

Ep 30: Leading Legal in Complex Regulatory Environments: Hardeep Singh, GC, CRED

How is tech changing India’s financial services industry? How do you deal with complex regulations that change as rapidly as tech products do? And how can a multinational company expand into India’s culturally, geographically, and linguistically diverse market?Hardeep Singh, General Counsel at CRED, has faced these challenges head-on. Starting his career in litigation, he moved on to in-house counsel for Uber in Delhi and helped pioneer solutions to improve the city’s public transit. Now he leads the legal team at CRED, a reward-based credit card payment app that integrates with India’s massive mobile payment system.Hear Hardeep as he shares his experiences structuring M&A deals, navigating nuanced regulations, leading legal for a dynamic design-based product, and finding motivation from solving real world problems.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-30Topics:Introduction: 1:17Launching your legal career: 1:52Switching to corporate counsel from an appellate practice in Delhi: 5:27Applying lessons from Uber to your legal leadership at CRED: 8:50Explaining CRED: 12:45Encountering a learning curve as a first-time team leader: 16:31Considering the role of legal in an organization without titles: 22:18Lessons learned from M&A at CRED: 27:46Working in India’s legal landscape: 33:37Driving communication, marketing and PR in legal: 37:15Understanding UPI, India’s unified payment interface: 39:40Advice to companies trying to expand into the Indian economy: 45:54Book recommendations: 50:23Advice to your younger self: 53:25Connect with us:Hardeep Singh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hardeep-singh-863b1617/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Mar 29, 2024 • 52min

EP 29: What's Next for Legal Ops: Jenn McCarron, President of CLOC

What can a strong community offer a legal ops professional working alone within their organization? How do you deal with the stress of a chaotic project management role while fostering change? Will legal ops eventually shift away from legal and into the business and tech sphere? Jenn McCann, Director of Legal Ops at Netflix and President of the Board of Directors at CLOC can offer an expert perspective on all of these questions and more. During her term as CLOC president, she is strengthening the organizations to community, content, and conversation, and developing a legal ops framework for CLOC’s more than 7,000 members.  Hear Jenn talk about finding the courage to share your ideas, building and leaning on your community of fellow legal ops professionals, emphasizing the importance of project management, allowing change to take shape, and more.  Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-29  Topics: Introduction: 0:00Advancing the legal ops industry at CLOC as President of the Board of Directors: 3:35Getting started with CLOC: 7:22Unpacking the mindset of service and giving back: 11:21Lessons learned as CLOC president: 14:23Advice for professionals getting their start in legal ops: 17:24Hiring detail-oriented staff with stakeholder management skills: 22:07Recommending platforms for learning project management skills: 26:04Dealing with the loneliness of a one-of-one role: 30:25Legal ops as a business team vs legal ops as a legal team: 37:06Focusing on the future: 41:02Maintaining an after-hours music career: 46:47 Connect with us: Jenn McCarron - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennmccarron/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.  
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Mar 26, 2024 • 35min

Ep 28: From Law Partner to Top Recruiter: Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa

How do executive recruiters take legal careers to the next level? What do you need to handle the transition from big-name law firm partner to a role helping people build careers of their own? How can you distinguish a good interview from a bad interview? Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa and host of the Hsu Untied podcast, has expert advice to share about how to ace the job interview for executive legal roles and the podcast interview with influential thinkers like Mark Cuban and Tony Robbins.  Going deep on legal and podcasting, Richard shares essential tips on how to project confidence and say the right things when you’re face to face with a hiring manager (or celebrity) who can take your career to the next level. Listen to an episode of Richard’s Hsu Untied podcast: https://hsuuntied.com/mcuban/   Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-28   Topics: Introduction: 0:00Finding your path to becoming a law firm partner: 4:07Dealing with the stress of a big law partnership: 6:46Making the transition from law firm partner to executive recruiter: 8:45Unpacking the responsibilities of an executive recruiter: 12:25Tactical tips for legal career searchers: 16:13Interviewing legal leaders like Mark Cuban on the Hsu Untied podcast: 18:32Helping your professional development by making a podcast: 24:14Advice to lawyers who want to start a podcast: 26:56Book recommendations: 29:57What you wish you’d known as a starting lawyer: 32:29Outro:33:54  Connect with us: Richard Hsu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardhsu/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft   SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Mar 15, 2024 • 46min

Ep 27: Taking Businesses & Legal Teams Global: Sarah Binder, General Counsel, Lime

What is a general counsel’s role in international expansion? How do you balance growth with safety and compliance across diverse countries and markets? And how do you scale your legal team to take on challenges that require in-depth knowledge of local cultures, regulations, and business practices? As general counsel at Lime, Sarah Binder confronts these questions each day, as she and her legal team navigate regulations across 300 municipalities in 35 countries. Sarah, who recently located to San Francisco from the UK, has found that transparency, accessibility, and flexibility are key to working across borders (and time zones).  Listen as Sarah offers tips for effectively scaling out your legal team for international expansion.Introduction: 0:00Discussing the scope of Sarah’s GC roles at Lime and Pizza Hut UK and Europe: 4:56Effectively scaling out your team for international expansion: 07:48Tips for working across time zones without feeling burnout: 12:47Defining the role of the GC: 18:57What American execs get wrong when they expand into European markets: 24:57Guiding your team through a diverse set of regulatory bodies: 30:01Looking back on your experience with consumer product liability as a general counsel: 32:38How GCs strike a balance between growth and regulatory compliance: 37:19Book Recommendation: 40:45Outro: 44:36Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-27  Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/  Connect with us: Sarah Binder -https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajmahapatra/  Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft  SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Feb 28, 2024 • 56min

Finding Empowerment in Disability: Raj Mahapatra, Senior Counsel at Wilson Sonsini

How do you turn one of the most difficult moments in your life into the motivation that guides you to make the world a better place?When Raj Mahapatra received his axial spondyloarthritis diagnosis, he was told he would spend his life in a wheelchair. Decades later, he is an accomplished long-distance runner, seasoned general counsel, tech start-up business operator, mission-driven climate advocate, and chairman of the charity that makes life better for people suffering from his condition worldwide.Listen as Raj recounts his journey to leadership, explains the importance of advocating for your personal needs, and shares why it is so important for GCs to never stop asking “why?”Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-26Topics:Introduction: 1:20Receiving a life-changing diagnosis in your twenties: 2:45Changing your perspective on work by living with a disability: 6:27Incorporating charity into your running practice: 13:17Going beyond legal roles and into operator positions: 20:41Fundraising as General Counsel and Head of Intellectual Property at Cervest Limited: 24:45Reflecting on the experience of building and losing a business as a lawyer: 32:13Resetting after a difficult work experience: 35:58Joining Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati as Senior Counsel: 42:19Building a meaningful life: 51:28Connect with us:Raj Mahapatra - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajmahapatra/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Feb 22, 2024 • 47min

Data, Privacy, and Podcasting: Andy Dale, GC & CPO, OpenAP

In an always-changing ad tech industry, how have privacy and data protection emerged as two of the largest challenges that organizations need to face? Whether it’s streaming platforms, engineering AI models, or aligning key industry stakeholders, these topics are evolving faster than the world can keep up with.OpenAP GC & Chief Privacy Officer Andy Dale has been leading conversations about privacy and data protection for more than a decade. He shares stories and advice from his time as the only privacy counsel at Mastercard, an organizer of some of the first privacy and data-focused industry groups, overseeing privacy at standards-making body OpenAP, and co-hosting his popular and influential podcast for more than 80 episodes, Data Protection Breakfast Club.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-25Topics:Introduction: 0:00Predicting the importance of data protection and recalibrating your career: 3:24Connecting laws and data in the privacy sphere: 6:52Leading privacy diligence during SessionM sale to Mastercard: 11:25Identifying your interests to determine your next professional move: 15:26Working across competitive lines at OpenAP: 19:35Predicting the data and privacy ecosystem ahead: 24:36Viewing AI through privacy and data protection: 27:50Evolving the Chief Privacy Officer role: 30:19Advice to junior lawyer breaking into privacy: 33:48Co-hosting a podcast about privacy and data protection with over 88 episodes published: 38:22Privacy-related book recommendations: 44:06Advice to younger lawyers: 45:16Listen to an episode of Andy’s Data Protection Breakfast Club podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trevor-hughes-ceo-at-iapp/id1559290322?i=1000514250595Connect with us:Andy Dale - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftSpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.
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Feb 8, 2024 • 38min

Building, leading, and scaling legal teams | Bonus Episode

How do you build and scale a high-performing legal team?Beyond legal prowess, GCs must master leadership, finding and retaining the right talent, allocating resources and advocating for budget, and more. Join us as we dive into intriguing stories and advice shared by top leaders in the in-house legal industry.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-24TopicsIntroduction: 00:00David Lancelot on transforming processes to empower lawyers as strategic leaders: 01:46Gary Spiegel on hiring adaptable players and fostering a growth-oriented culture: 08:17Brian Chase on allocating resources strategically and nurturing talent: 13:41Akshay Verma on how well-being and values contribute to professional success: 20:03Adam Glick on strategic hiring for expertise and problem-solving skills: 22:17Celaena Powder on team success through coaching, brand building, and open culture: 30:38Lydia Chuek on demonstrating trust in employees and retaining great legal talent: 34:00Seth Weissman on developing trust and leadership synergy within teams: 36:56Subscribe to be the first to know when we release new episodes.Connect with us:Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftFeatured guests:David Lancelot - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlancelot/Gary Spiegel - ​​https://www.linkedin.com/in/gspieg/Brian Chase - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-r-chase/Akshay Verma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshay-verma-esq/Adam Glick - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adglick/Celaena Powder - https://www.linkedin.com/in/celaenapowder/Lydia Cheuk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiacheuk/Seth Weissman -  https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethweissman/
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Jan 31, 2024 • 23min

Expanding Beyond the GC Role | Bonus Episode

Interested in expanding beyond the traditional role of General Counsel? Join us in this episode to find out how legal leaders redefine their roles. Discover insights that transform legal professionals into strategic business leaders – from smoothly transitioning to CEO to mastering adaptive communication in enterprise strategy.Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-23Topics: Introduction: 00:00Evan Ferl on taking the legal landscape beyond its limits: 01:16René Paula on enterprise strategy and adaptive communication: 06:55Kathy Zhu on mastering the legal to CEO transition: 09:11Vanessa Gage on navigating interim leadership challenges: 12:15Genessa Stout on mastering legal insight and business success: 17:19Outro: 20:30 Subscribe now for valuable perspectives on Google Podcasts/Apple Podcasts/Spotify.Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinnSpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraftFeatured guests:Evan Ferl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanferl/René Paula: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rpaula/Kathy Zhu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathymzhu88/Vanessa Gage: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vgage/Genessa Stout: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genessastout/SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more.

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