

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward
Center for Action and Contemplation
Join Richard Rohr, CAC staff, teachers, and guests on a journey through Fr. Richard’s foundational teachings on contemplative Christianity. Discover how to embody this wisdom in our daily lives, co-creating a world where everything and everyone belongs.
Episodes
Mentioned books

9 snips
Oct 4, 2024 • 1h 11min
Living on the Edge of the Inside With Dr. Barbara Holmes
Dr. Barbara Holmes, a scholar in African American spirituality and mysticism, dives deep into the themes of simplicity and justice. She shares insights on how embracing simplicity can lead to freedom and foster community support. The concept of 'soft prophecy' as a peaceful response to suffering takes center stage, as she encourages living authentically in a complex world. Holmes also highlights the cosmological perspective that expands our understanding of race and power, inviting listeners to engage in social justice with imagination and compassion.

Sep 27, 2024 • 1h 26min
A Happy Run Downward With James Finley
In this discussion, James Finley, a clinical psychologist and spiritual director, alongside Richard Rohr, a former prison chaplain, explore the profound themes of suffering as a pathway to compassion. They touch on the importance of mystical union and the healing power of recognizing our belovedness. Listeners are invited to consider how personal suffering can lead to solidarity with others. The conversation emphasizes embracing pain without becoming overwhelmed, urging a compassionate response to the world's struggles.

Sep 20, 2024 • 1h 21min
What Do We Mean by "Mysticism"? With Mirabai Starr
Welcome to Season 2 of Everything Belongs! This season, we'll be exploring Richard's book Eager to Love chapter-by-chapter, and what better way to kick off a brand new season than with our friend, Mirabai Starr. In this episode, we're covering Chapter One: "What Do We Mean by 'Mysticism'?" This episode explores the themes of mysticism, spirituality, and the sacredness of everyday life, examining the nature of mystical experiences, the importance of love, and how grief can lead to deeper spiritual understanding. Before we dive into the interview with Mirabai, Mike and Paul catch up with Richard at his hermitage to hear his reflections on the first chapter of Eager to Love.Mirabai Starr is an award-winning author of creative non-fiction and contemporary translations of sacred literature. She taught Philosophy and World Religions at the University of New Mexico-Taos for 20 years and now teaches and speaks internationally on contemplative practice and inter-spiritual dialog. A certified bereavement counselor, Mirabai helps mourners harness the transformational power of loss. Her latest book, WILD MERCY: Living the Fierce & Tender Wisdom of the Women Mystics, was named one of the “Best Books of 2019”. She lives with her extended family in the mountains of northern New Mexico.Hosted by CAC Staff: Mike Petrow and Paul SwansonResources:
A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here.
Grab a copy of Eager to Love here.
Grab a copy of Mirabai's new book Ordinary Mysticism here.
To learn more about Mirabai Starr and Wild Heart, visit her website here.

Sep 14, 2024 • 37min
Falling Upward (Listener Questions Part 3) With Richard Rohr
Welcome to Part 3 of our series responding to your questions. This episode continues the conversation from the previous two episodes responding to listener questions from Season 1 of Everything Belongs. Due to baby ducklings being born in the original conversation, we saved some of your questions and voicemails for Richard to be recorded at a later date. We'll see you soon for Season 2!Resources:
A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here.
Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here.

Sep 3, 2024 • 33min
Falling Upward (Listener Questions: Part 2) With Cassidy Hall
Welcome to Part 2 of our episodes responding to your questions. This episode continues the conversation from the previous episode responding to listener questions from Season 1 of Everything Belongs.About the guest:Cassidy Hall (she/her/hers) (MA, MDiv, MTS) is an author, award-winning filmmaker, podcaster, ordained minister in the United Church of Christ, and leading voice in contemplative spirituality. She is the cohost of the Encountering Silence podcast and the creator of the Contemplating Now and Queering Contemplation podcasts. Her films include In Pursuit of Silence and Day of a Stranger. Her forthcoming book, Queering Contemplation, Finding Queerness in the Roots and Future of Contemplative Spirituality is set for release in May of 2024. Cassidy is widely published and currently resides in Indianapolis, where she is studying for her DMin degree.Resources:
A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here.
Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here.
To learn more about Cassidy Hall, visit her website here.
Grab a copy of Cassidy's book, Queering Contemplation, here.
Connie Zweig's book The Inner Work of Age: From Role to Soul can be found here.

Aug 22, 2024 • 1h 28min
Falling Upward (Listener Questions: Part 1) With Cassidy Hall
In this season finale of Everything Belongs, we're diving into the final chapter of Richard Rohr's book Falling Upward and responding to as many listener questions as we could across three parts. Joining Corey, Mike, and Paul for these special episodes is our dear friend Cassidy Hall, the author of Queering Contemplation. Together, we're exploring how her work relates to the themes of Falling Upward and the paradoxical journey of spiritual growth that comes along with it. This episode was recorded during a particularly memorable moment, as a brood of ducklings hatched in Richard's front yard, creating a scene of pure joy and wonder that mirrors the themes of new beginnings and unexpected grace that ran throughout this season. We hope you enjoy it 🦆🐥About the guest:Cassidy Hall (she/her/hers) (MA, MDiv, MTS) is an author, award-winning filmmaker, podcaster, ordained minister in the United Church of Christ, and leading voice in contemplative spirituality. She is the cohost of the Encountering Silence podcast and the creator of the Contemplating Now and Queering Contemplation podcasts. Her films include In Pursuit of Silence and Day of a Stranger. Her forthcoming book, Queering Contemplation, Finding Queerness in the Roots and Future of Contemplative Spirituality is set for release in May of 2024. Cassidy is widely published and currently resides in Indianapolis, where she is studying for her DMin degree.Resources:
A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here.
Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here.
To learn more about Cassidy Hall, visit her website here.
Grab a copy of Cassidy's book, Queering Contemplation, here.

May 22, 2024 • 1h 24min
New Problems and New Directions With Dr. Barbara Holmes and Brian McLaren
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Barbara Holmes, a scholar of African American spirituality, and Brian McLaren, an advocate for inclusive Christianity, delve into the transformative journey of life. They explore how experiences of loss can foster personal growth and renewal. Topics include the quest for deeper connection in uncertain times, the importance of solitude, and the balance between ego and soul needs. They also reflect on navigating community expectations and the power of contemplative practices amidst grief. Prepare for insights that inspire a richer understanding of life's complexities!

May 15, 2024 • 1h 32min
The Shadowlands With Connie Zweig
Connie Zweig, a retired therapist and author known for her work on shadow work and spirituality, dives deep into the complexities of self-identity and authenticity. She discusses the importance of embracing the shadow self in personal and spiritual growth. Connie highlights the healing power of humor in addressing flaws and the dynamics within spiritual communities. The conversation also touches on the tensions between societal expectations and personal desires, emphasizing the need for self-recognition to foster genuine connections and transformation.

May 8, 2024 • 1h 32min
A Bright Sadness With Christian Wiman
In our fast-paced world, how can we cultivate a sense of wonder and open ourselves to the possibility of joy, even amidst life's inevitable hardships?In this episode, we're joined by Christian Wiman as we continue our chapter-by-chapter exploration of Falling Upward with Chapter 10: "A Bright Sadness." In this conversation with Christian Wiman, we explore how suffering and joy can coexist and transform us through a poetic experience of Christianity. Before we dive in to the interview with Christian, CAC staff catch up with Richard at his hermitage to hear his reflections on the tenth chapter a decade after he originally wrote it.Christian Wiman is the author, editor, or translator of more than a dozen books of poetry and prose, including two memoirs, My Bright Abyss: Meditation of a Modern Believer and He Held Radical Light: The Art of Faith, the Faith of Art; Every Riven Thing, winner of the Ambassador Book Award; Once in the West, a National Book Critics Circle Award finalist; and Survival Is a Style―all published by FSG. He teaches religion and literature at the Yale Institute of Sacred Music and at Yale Divinity School.Resources:
A PDF of the transcript for this episode is available here.
Grab a copy of the newly revised version of Falling Upward, with a new foreword by Brené Brown here.
Check out Christian Wiman's latest book, Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair here. We also reference his book, My Bright Abyss. You can find that here.
Connect with us:
Have a question or thought about this season that you'd like to share with us?
Email us: podcasts@cac.org
Send us a voicemail here: http://www.cac.org/voicemail

4 snips
May 1, 2024 • 1h 36min
A Second Simplicity With Carmen Acevedo Butcher
Carmen Acevedo Butcher discusses cultivating acceptance and simplicity through contemplative practice. She shares insights on restful stillness, diving into wordless, imageless Love. The conversation delves into shifting practices of contemplation, highlighting the evolving stages of life. Carmen's expertise in translation and spirituality adds depth to the discussion on embracing 'Second Simplicity'.