

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast
Refine Labs
Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
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Jun 30, 2022 • 51min
S2 E17 - Leveraging Content and Community in B2B
Nick Bennett (Director of Evangelism and Customer Marketing @ Alyce) and Arthur Castillo (Senior Manager, Field Marketing & Community @ Chili Piper) joined Stacking Growth LIVE last week as guests to discuss how to leverage content and community in both B2B SaaS and their personal brands.
*Snippets of this episode are spotty due to poor internet connection*

Jun 28, 2022 • 50min
S2 E16 - Measuring Demand Creation
Cassidy Shield (CGO), Victoria Sakal (The Vault), Daniel Pinkston (Performance Marketing Manager) and Myles Madden (Performance Marketing Manager) hosted today's Stacking Growth episode to talk about measuring brand and demand creation. They cover leading and lagging indicators, adopting a long-term mindset, how and where to create demand, and which qualitative and quantitative metrics you should be tracking.

Jun 23, 2022 • 30min
S2 E15 - Cognitive Biases and Their Implications for Marketers
Whether you know it or not, most of the decisions you make throughout your day (especially purchasing decisions) are driven by cognitive biases. Everyone views the world, brands and products differently based on their experiences and unique worldview. So what does that mean for you as a marketer? Tory Kindlick (VP of Demand) and Braeden Matson-Jones (Performance Marketing Manager) dive into cognitive biases in today's episode of Stacking Growth. They talk about communities and other non-attributable touchpoints, as these are great examples of social influence and cognitive biases that influence purchasing decisions. Tory and Braeden also touch on negative social influence and how that can adversely affect your marketing efforts.

Jun 21, 2022 • 32min
S2 E14 - Overcoming Internal Challenges When Switching to A Demand Creation Model
Tory Kindlick (VP of Demand Gen) and Tylor Jones (Director of Demand Gen) hosted this Stacking Growth episode on the topic of: how to overcome the internal obstacles that come with switching from a solely demand capture model to a demand creation model. Tylor carried out this change in phases at his previous organization and brings his experience to the table for this episode.

Jun 16, 2022 • 54min
S2 E13 - Getting Your Go-to-Market Foundations Stack Right
A successful GTM strategy starts with a strong foundation. A strong foundation starts with an understanding of the customer/market & being able to uniquely position yourself vs. others. This episode consists of a recording from our most recent Stacking Growth LIVE event. This installment was hosted by Cassidy Shield (Chief Growth Officer), Victoria Sakal (The Vault), and Tony Flores (Senior Director, Demand Generation). After listening to this episode, you'll be equipped with a framework that will empower you to assess and improve your current GTM Foundation in terms of customer insights, competitive intelligence, and positioning/messaging.
Register for the Stacking Growth LIVE event series here: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZUkde6upzMjGN2BIuhVJXj73cZNk2KuO3yn

Jun 14, 2022 • 30min
S2 E12 - Creative Professionals Are Not Sidekicks
Judy Sheriff (General Manager) hosted today's Stacking Growth episode with Myles Madden (Performance Marketing Manager) and Lex Winship (Senior Copywriter). They talked about the importance of sharing data, insights, and feedback with your creative team, the difference between content creation and distribution (as well as how they work together) and why the creative team needs a seat at the table.

Jun 9, 2022 • 38min
S2 E11 - Breaking into SaaS Marketing
Tory Kindlick (VP of Demand Gen) and Matt Sciannella (Director of Demand Gen) talk about breaking into SaaS marketing on today's episode of Stacking Growth. They share tips for anyone looking to get into this space in additional to dropping insights for those already in SaaS marketing. Hot take: you don’t need to have extensive experience in SaaS to be an effective SaaS marketer. However, Tory and Matt walk through differences between SaaS marketing and marketing in other types of companies, as well as which traditional marketing principles span across industries.

Jun 7, 2022 • 52min
S2 E10 - Breaking the Barrier of Selling into Large Enterprises without Brand Recognition
Cassidy Shield (Chief Growth Officer) hosted today's episode of Stacking Growth with Matthew Bramson (Director of Strategic Accounts at MANTA) to talk through the mindset shift needed to sell into large enterprises at organizations that are disrupting the status quo, but don't have strong brand recognition. They cover selling with an abundance detached mindset, selling up to senior leadership, measuring brand, and what sales teams need from their marketing organization to have a well-functioning relationship.

Jun 2, 2022 • 56min
S2 E9 - Transitioning from MQLs to HIROs
Today's episode consists of a recording from last week's Stacking Growth LIVE where Sidney Waterfall (VP of Demand) and Cassidy Shield (Chief Growth Officer) discussed Refine Labs' proprietary PIPE™ Framework - specifically the HIRO (High Intent Revenue Opportunity) stage and why marketers need to start measuring this instead of MQLs.
Register for the Stacking Growth LIVE event series here.

May 31, 2022 • 27min
S2 E8 - Talking with VCs about Demand Gen
Tory Kindlick (VP of Demand Gen) hosted this episode with Matt Wilbanks (Director of Demand Gen) and Jonathan Unger (Director of Demand Gen). The main topic of this episode is how to talk to VCs, investors, and boards of directors about demand gen. Tory, Matt, and Jonathan cover how to navigate funding, QBRs, and results as well as their top recommendations on how to prepare for these conversations.