

Into the Supernatural With Jen Lilley & Billy Hallowell
Pathufind Media/Billy Hallowell
Do miracles still happen today? What’s really going on in the spiritual battle around us? What does the Bible say about the supernatural—and why does it matter?
If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, Into the Supernatural is the podcast you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by actress Jen Lilley and TV host and journalist Billy Hallowell, this captivating show pulls back the veil on the unseen world, exploring the powerful and oft-times misunderstood supernatural elements of the Christian faith.
From miracles and healings to deliverance and near-death experiences, Jen and Billy dive deep into firsthand testimonies, biblical truth, and the mysteries of the spiritual realm. With thought-provoking discussions and expert guests, they explore how God still moves today—and what it means for your faith.
The supernatural isn’t just something from the past—it’s happening right now. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or a believer hungry for more, this show will challenge, inspire, and equip you to understand the reality of spiritual warfare, the power of prayer, and the undeniable evidence of God’s presence in our world.
Are you ready to go beyond the natural and step Into the Supernatural?
If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, Into the Supernatural is the podcast you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by actress Jen Lilley and TV host and journalist Billy Hallowell, this captivating show pulls back the veil on the unseen world, exploring the powerful and oft-times misunderstood supernatural elements of the Christian faith.
From miracles and healings to deliverance and near-death experiences, Jen and Billy dive deep into firsthand testimonies, biblical truth, and the mysteries of the spiritual realm. With thought-provoking discussions and expert guests, they explore how God still moves today—and what it means for your faith.
The supernatural isn’t just something from the past—it’s happening right now. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or a believer hungry for more, this show will challenge, inspire, and equip you to understand the reality of spiritual warfare, the power of prayer, and the undeniable evidence of God’s presence in our world.
Are you ready to go beyond the natural and step Into the Supernatural?
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 20, 2022 • 35min
Ex-Satanist Nearly Ended His Life Until He Fell Into the 'Arms of Jesus': 'I Found Myself Giving Myself to Satan'
"I found myself giving myself to Satan."That's not an admission one would expect to hear from a preacher, but Ben Atkins wasn't always a believer. In fact, the U.K.-based pastor went through quite a harrowing journey — one that took him into the bowels of a Satanic worldview before he discovered hope in Christ."This is my story. These are my experiences," Atkins said on "The Playing With Fire" podcast, noting his story involves "supernatural things" and that he is careful not to go beyond what he experienced and what he sees in Scripture. "I'm quite hesitant to go beyond what the Bible says, what Jesus taught, and my experience. That's really all I can share with any sort of authority."Atkins described growing up in a chaotic household that looked comfortable from the outside — a scenario he likened to the "English equivalent of the American Dream." But beneath the surface was a lot of trauma, with the situation leaving him "questioning everything" at an early age.Then, he found Satanism.

Oct 11, 2022 • 15min
The Rise of the Occult? Inside 'Hocus Pocus 2': Pastor Reacts to Witchcraft, Changes in New Film
Preachers like Mike Signorelli, pastor of V1 Church in New York City, is among those concerned over the rising obsession and prevalence of the occult. And he has some perspectives on "Hocus Pocus 2," the sequel to the 1993 film about three witches.“It seems all too common in today’s culture that we are being bombarded with everything except for Christianity,” he said.Signorelli pointed to 2 Corinthians 11:14 when reacting to claims “Hocus Pocus 2” puts a more friendly face on witchcraft. The verse reads, in part, “Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.” Listen to the conversation.

Sep 28, 2022 • 20min
'The Enemy's Design': Why Witchcraft, the Occult, and Supernatural are Dominating a Confused Culture
Evil is real. In this second part of our conversation with Jareb and Petra Nott, Bible teachers who operate a deliverance ministry and train others to help set people free from demonic influence, we discuss generational issues and why the occult, witchcraft, and evil are so everpresent in today's world.The key question: what's driving the increase? And how should Christians respond? "So, the fascination with evil in society right now — we have a huge interest in the supernatural and people don't know where to turn to learn about that," Petra explained. "So, they're turning to the wrong side."Authors of the book "The Science of Deliverance: How Spiritual Freedom Brings Physical Healing," the husband and wife duo say they take a scientific approach to healing the influence of evil. Listen to them explore these themes among others.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Sep 7, 2022 • 23min
WARNING: Pastor Sounds Alarm, Takes You Inside 'Little Demon' Cartoon Featuring Satan, Paganism, Teen Antichrist
“Little Demon,” a new animated show about a woman who mates with Satan and produces the Antichrist, is raising eyebrows and making cultural waves. Mike Signorelli, senior pastor of V1 Church in New York City, issues a dire warning and breaks down why people need to be wary of the show.“I … can’t believe that this show exists,” Signorelli said. “I think if we could go back 30 years … everybody would universally be shocked and appalled.”Read more about "Little Demon."MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Sep 6, 2022 • 15min
Satanists Keep Dominating Headlines — But What Do They Believe, Who Are They, and Do They Really Worship the Devil? An Explainer
Satanists continue to dominate headlines, but who are they, what do they believe — and do they really worship the devil? Headlines about Satanists can be confusing and confounding, particularly when it comes to attempts to understand their belief system.There are two general Satanist camps: theological and atheistic/rationalists. Understanding these umbrella terms and what people within each believe helps us better comprehend the headlines, process the news, discern the biblical implications, and be better prepared to respond to questions about these groups and individuals who reject Christ.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Aug 26, 2022 • 22min
Exposing Trauma and Evil: Meet the Husband and Wife Team Battling the Demonic With the 'Science of Deliverance'
Evil is real. On "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire," we'll be speaking with Jareb and Petra Nott, Bible teachers who operate a deliverance ministry and train others to help set people free from demonic influence. Authors of the book "The Science of Deliverance: How Spiritual Freedom Brings Physical Healing," the husband and wife duo say they take a scientific approach to healing the influence of evil. Today we'll explore their take on deliverance, evil, oppression, and the complex discussion about the passing on of trauma. Here's part one of our discussion.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Aug 16, 2022 • 34min
Ex-Psychic's WARNING After Tarot Cards, Paranormal Sparked 'Rabbit Hole of Destruction': Jenn Nizza's Incredible Journey to Christ
Evil is real. Today we tell the story of Jenn Nizza, a woman whose encounter with Tarot Card reading as a young girl led her on a years-long journey into New Age practices and the occult. After spending years doing readings and communicating with what Jenn believed were the dead souls of her clients, she had an encounter with Jesus that changed everything. Today, we'll discuss her story, and we'll explore the mystery, myths, and truths surrounding psychic abilities and what the Bible truly has to say. Jenn's convicting warning is something every Christian must heed.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Jul 29, 2022 • 8min
Celeb Reportedly Throws Out Witchcraft Books, Tarot Cards and Issues Public Statement: 'There Is a Spiritual Battle'
Famous tattoo artist, entrepreneur, model, and reality TV star Kat Von D issued a fascinating statement on her Instagram last week, noting she knows there's a spiritual battle afoot. While she has always seen "beauty in the macabre," something recently changed."I've always found beauty in the macabre, but at this point, I just had to ask myself what is my relationship with this content?" she said, sharing a photo of the books and Tarot content she purportedly tossed. "And the truth is, I just don't want to invite any of these things into our family's lives, even if it comes disguised in beautiful covers, collecting dust on my shelves."Listen to this mini-episode of "Playing With Fire" for the whole story — and understand why this is a truly unique and fascinating move.

Jul 9, 2022 • 47min
Witches, Satanists, and More: Meet the Pastors Who Lovingly Ministered For Years in Salem, Massachusetts
Guy and Tana Miller, pastors who ministered in Salem, Massachusetts, talk about their unique ministry and interacting with witches and Satanists. They discuss starting a church in Salem, navigating tense moments, showing unconditional love, and engaging with people involved in the occult.

Jun 11, 2022 • 44min
What Are Demons? Do Christians Need Deliverance? Mike Signorelli Breaks Down Evil, Exorcisms, and More
What are demons? What's deliverance (and how does it differ from exorcism)? Is Catholic exorcism effective? Mike Signorelli, pastor of V1 Church in NYC, tackles these issues among many others on this episode of "Playing With Fire With Billy Hallowell." We also tackle:Do Christians need deliverance?Can a Christian have demons inside of him or herself?Talk about your ministry. You do large, mass deliverance events. What are those like?...and plenty more!Listen to other episodes of "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire Podcast" on Edifi.And be sure to grab copies of the "Playing With Fire" book!