

Into the Supernatural With Jen Lilley & Billy Hallowell
Pathufind Media/Billy Hallowell
Do miracles still happen today? What’s really going on in the spiritual battle around us? What does the Bible say about the supernatural—and why does it matter?
If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, Into the Supernatural is the podcast you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by actress Jen Lilley and TV host and journalist Billy Hallowell, this captivating show pulls back the veil on the unseen world, exploring the powerful and oft-times misunderstood supernatural elements of the Christian faith.
From miracles and healings to deliverance and near-death experiences, Jen and Billy dive deep into firsthand testimonies, biblical truth, and the mysteries of the spiritual realm. With thought-provoking discussions and expert guests, they explore how God still moves today—and what it means for your faith.
The supernatural isn’t just something from the past—it’s happening right now. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or a believer hungry for more, this show will challenge, inspire, and equip you to understand the reality of spiritual warfare, the power of prayer, and the undeniable evidence of God’s presence in our world.
Are you ready to go beyond the natural and step Into the Supernatural?
If you’ve ever wrestled with these questions, Into the Supernatural is the podcast you’ve been waiting for. Hosted by actress Jen Lilley and TV host and journalist Billy Hallowell, this captivating show pulls back the veil on the unseen world, exploring the powerful and oft-times misunderstood supernatural elements of the Christian faith.
From miracles and healings to deliverance and near-death experiences, Jen and Billy dive deep into firsthand testimonies, biblical truth, and the mysteries of the spiritual realm. With thought-provoking discussions and expert guests, they explore how God still moves today—and what it means for your faith.
The supernatural isn’t just something from the past—it’s happening right now. Whether you’re a skeptic, a seeker, or a believer hungry for more, this show will challenge, inspire, and equip you to understand the reality of spiritual warfare, the power of prayer, and the undeniable evidence of God’s presence in our world.
Are you ready to go beyond the natural and step Into the Supernatural?
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Jan 8, 2024 • 14min
Ex-Psychic's Warning After Live Tarot Reading About Trump, Biden on Fox News: 'You've Opened Demonic Doors'
Ex-psychic Jenn Nizza is issuing a dire warning after Fox News host Jesse Watters interviewed a psychic this week named Paula Roberts. Nizza said she was "surprised" and concerned over the "demonic" practice being so prevalent on a TV news network. "[People are] being exposed to divination," Nizza told CBN Digital. "Many people are not aware and may think it's entertainment and I was really disappointed to see a news program pushing this out there, and even making light of it — making it seem like it's just entertainment and a joke." She continued, "That's not what it is, and it doesn't matter if you think it's entertainment or not; the outcome is going to be the same." And that outcome, according to Nizza, is one that can breed spiritual danger. Roberts used Tarot cards during her appearance, offering predictions about former President Donald Trump's future prospects; she also addressed current President Joe Biden as well as Watters himself. Listen to Nizza's warnings.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Nov 1, 2023 • 39min
Ex-Warlock Was a 'Magnet to Evil' and Satan: 'I Was Literally Working for the Devil'
Today, Richard Lorenzo Jr. is a Christian pastor — but that wasn't always the case. The ex-warlock was at one time embroiled in the occult, engaging in evil and encouraging others to do the same. All that changed when he accepted Jesus in 2019. "I definitely was possessed," he recently said. "I was hearing voices — I was literally hearing voices." Lorenzo said he began dabbling in selling drugs, but when a massive drug package went missing, he became obsessed with finding out who took it. That's when he turned to a voodoo priest for answers. Soon, he was so enthralled with evil that he forgot about the package. The subsequent journey led him into the bowels of the occult, diving so deep into the abyss he gave up everything to study such practices. In the end, Lorenzo started down a dangerous road. "I know I was possessed. ... I used to believe that the things I was doing were right," he said. "I used to believe ... abortion is right. ... I would convince people about abortion, convince people to get drunk, to cheat on their wives." Lorenzo continued, "I was literally working for the devil." But all of that changed when he found Jesus. Watch Lorenzo share the incredible journey to faith and the pastorate.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Oct 27, 2023 • 29min
'Middle of a Horror Movie': Ray Comfort Reveals Demons Screaming, Terrifying Battles to Free Possessed Youths
"The demons in her screamed like you wouldn't believe."That's how evangelist Ray Comfort described a shocking encounter he once had in Christchurch, New Zealand, with a young woman who he believes was fighting the demonic."I'm right in the middle of a horror movie that I couldn't believe was happening," he said of the experience. He also revealed another example of freeing a young man from possession. Listen to Comfort explain why understanding true evil is essential — and what he's learned throughout his evangelistic career.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Oct 13, 2023 • 14min
In Wake of Hamas' Evil Terror in Israel, Are the End Times Upon Us? 5 Arguments Many Christians Make About Prophecy
In the wake of Hamas' horrific terror attack in Israel, it's likely that prophecy discussions will ramp up in some circles.This shouldn't come as a surprise, though, as many contemporary theologians and pastors believe that the world is currently observing numerous signs that mirror the supposedly prophetic contents of scriptures in Old and New Testament books like Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation. Some of these apparent signs, of course, involve Israel, which is why news about the nation sparks intrigue.Here are five reasons many Christians believe the end times could be drawing nearer. MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Oct 4, 2023 • 44min
FLASHBACK: Ex-Medium Saw 'Shadow People' and Was Embroiled in Evil Before a Dramatic Deliverance Changed Absolutely Everything
This week, we revisit a classic episode from season one: From a terrifying childhood of seeing "shadow people" to a 38-year stretch as a medium who lived in the grips of evil without even knowing it, Ivani found herself on a troubling journey that ended in a dramatic deliverance that changed absolutely everything. Listen to Ivani and her family share the unsettling, stunning and powerful moments that led to her healing. And for more on this topic, be sure to read Billy Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts."MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

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Sep 15, 2023 • 23min
Are Generational Curses Biblical? Demons, Evil, and 'The Secrets to Generational Curses'
What are generational curses? Does God punish the children for the sins of the father as we see noted in Exodus 34:7? And how does one go about breaking such a curse? The topic of generational curses is no doubt fiercely debated in the church today, with people taking a variety of stances. Some reject the notion of generational curses, while others see them as a major stumbling block in believers’ lives. Today, Alexander Pagani, author of The Secrets to Generational Curses, joins us to share his perspective. His is just one view on the matter but an important one to be discussed. Listen to what he had to say.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Sep 1, 2023 • 25min
Terrifying Journey to Hell: Ex-Satanist Who Says He Met the Devil Leaves Occult, Finds Christ
John Ramirez spends his time today preaching the Gospel, but he was once a Satanist and occultist who says he had a relationship with the devil. But Ramirez says a terrifying visit to hell and interaction with the devil led him on a journey to finding Jesus.Listen to Ramirez explain how witchcraft, Tarot cards, and chaos led him into the spiritual abyss — and how he escaped on today's "Playing With Fire."MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

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Aug 7, 2023 • 23min
Are UFOs and Aliens REAL? Renowned Astrophysicist Says Things Might Not Be What They Seem
Are aliens and UFOs real? Astrophysicist Hugh Ross, who is also a Christian apologist, has intensely looked at this issue for decades. Ross became a UFO expert by accident, though his theological take on the issue — particularly in light of the newfound cultural obsession with the topic — is fascinating. On today's episode of "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire," he explores the nature of aliens, why he believes things might not be what they seem, and what people (and, in particular, Christians) might want to pay attention to.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Jul 31, 2023 • 14min
'Downloaded From Demons': Ex-Medium Responds to Raven-Symoné's 'Psychic' Claims With WARNING
An ex-medium who found Jesus and abandoned the occult is speaking out and issuing a warning after actress Raven Symoné recently spoke about having "psychic" moments.Jenn Nizza, a former fortune teller who hosts the podcast "Ex-Psychic Saved," joins the show to break it all down.MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram

Jun 23, 2023 • 37min
She Fell Into Witchcraft, Astrology, the New Age and Felt 'Dead Inside.' After Escaping Evil, She's Helping Save Kids From the Demonic
Evil is real.Tailah Scroggins felt dead inside. After growing up in a Christian home, she somehow fell into the occult, embracing astrology, witchcraft, and the New Age. But after embarking on a dark journey and losing the will to live, she had an incredible interaction with God that changed everything. Today, Tailah is an online evangelist, writer, and truth-teller on a mission to help others escape evil. She joins "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" to share her testimony, her journey into — and out of — the occult, and what she believes about deliverance ministry. Most notably, she explains what led her to dive into social media to share her vulnerable story.When Tailah saw witchcraft, Tarot cards, crystals, and astrology blowing up on the Internet during the pandemic, she said she was grieved. "I was into New Age, I was into the false spirituality, in witchcraft ... so, I saw people going through what I had been set free from by Jesus," she says on the show. "And I was like, 'This is not OK. It's not OK that these videos are getting millions of [views].'"Listen to Tailah share her powerful journey. MORE INFORMATION:- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"- Follow Billy on Facebook- Follow Billy on Twitter- Follow Billy on Instagram


