Chief Change Officer

Most people scroll through LinkedIn to procrastinate. Alison Stewart used it to land her next big thing. In Part One of this two-part series, Alison shares how she left her comfy finance job mid-pandemic to join a 16-person startup she found—wait for it—through networking online. We talk about career pivots, gut instincts, and how she slid into her co-founder’s inbox like a pro. Tomorrow, we dig into Overalls, the startup that thinks your benefits should actually benefit you. Novel, right?Key Highlights of Our Interview:"What Am I Doing?” – Hitting Pause on the Corporate Grind“During the pandemic, time started blending together. I had to stop and ask, what am I doing? Am I happy?” Those months at home made me realize how I’d been running on autopilot, stuck in a cycle of new leadership teams and constant resets. With every change, it felt like we were taking ten steps back just to make one forward."“The Safety Net of a Strong Company” – Navigating Stability vs. Fulfillment“You can get caught up in…having a strong company, great group of colleagues…new opportunities coming at you. But it might not be what truly motivates you.”“Controlling for Risk Factors” – Making Thoughtful Career Moves“I was trying to control for those risk factors, or at least account for them…what was I comfortable with? How would it impact my family?”“Overalls Caught My Eye” – The Power of an Unexpected Spark“I was sitting at work…reading about the launch of Overalls, and I got really excited. People almost stopped me, saying, ‘Allison, nothing gives you as much excitement as this opportunity."“Taking Skills Beyond Insurance” – Exploring New Industries on LinkedIn“I was interested in exploring something outside the insurance industry…how does my experience, how do my skills translate, and how do I communicate them effectively?”____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guests: Alison Stewart  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If your brain just short-circuited at the phrase “Brain Summit at the Super Bowl,” you’re not alone. In Part 2, Nicole dives into the backstory of Generosity WINS, the book she co-authored with Monty Wood—and how they turned a business idea into a human story with real voices, a fictional lead, and zero fluff. Spoiler: there’s a QR code in the book that leads you to the actual humans behind the wisdom.This episode is part research, part heart, and all human. If you’ve ever doubted whether generosity can be a strategy, Nicole will change your mind.Key Highlights of Our Interview:ROI of Generosity? – “You can’t measure karma with a spreadsheet.” But Nicole explains why generosity still pays back—in time, trust, and unexpected career breaks.Behind the Book – How a business fable with real people became a new kind of leadership playbook.Meet Emily (She’s Fictional) – Why a made-up hotel manager ties it all together, and what hospitality has to do with generosity.Can You Teach Generosity? – Nicole’s answer will surprise you—and it involves boys’ schools and grief.The Brain Summit at the Super Bowl – Concussions, jazz, neuroscience, and 5,000 of their “closest friends”—how Nicole built a brain health movement in America’s loudest weekend._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Dr. Nicole F. Roberts --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You don’t earn the title “Dr.” and then co-author a book about kindness by sticking to a script. In Part 1, Nicole F. Roberts—Doctor of Public Health, neuroscience nerd, and co-author of Generosity WINS—takes us through her very non-linearjourney. From failed chemistry dreams to starting a human rights firm during her PhD “break,” Nicole’s path proves that detours can be more meaningful than the original plan.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Chemistry Flop That Sparked a New Career – “I realized I was terrible at chemistry… and didn’t want to spend life writing prescriptions.”From Neuroscience to Public Policy to Public Health – The career pivot map that should be framed as modern art.A Six-Month Break That Turned Into Six Years – “My dissertation chair died. I got divorced. So I started a human rights firm.” (As one does.)Why Policy ≠ Change – “Policy is great—until politics gets involved. I needed to see the change I wanted to make.”Finding Her Real Voice – How lived experience reshaped her doctoral research and her purpose.If you’ve ever hit pause on your career, doubted your direction, or rerouted your GPS mid-PhD—this episode is proof it’s not the end. It might be the best part._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Dr. Nicole F. Roberts  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus what it means for companies that refuse to adapt.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Future of Learning – “My son skipped college, built a six-figure business at 15, and spent a year in Antarctica learning survival skills. That kind of real-world experience? You can’t teach that in a classroom.” Why degrees are losing their grip, and how alternative education paths are creating a new kind of talent pipeline.Employment is Dead? – “No, I’m not saying people should sit in their parents’ basement playing video games. I’m saying we don’t have to tolerate outdated, soul-crushing jobs anymore.” Deborah sets the record straight on the book’s provocative title.What Companies Must Do Now – “One person can now do the job of three or four. So what happens to the others? If companies don’t plan for that, they’ll lose their best people before they even see it coming.” Why leaders need to rethink how they train, retain, and engage talent before AI and Web3 force their hand.Work3 and the New Rules of Employment – “We built the Work3 Institute to help companies move forward before they get left behind. The question isn’t ‘Will work change?’ It’s ‘Are you ready for it?’” How Deborah and Josh Drean are guiding businesses through the transformation._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Deborah Perry Piscione__________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.In Part 1 of this two-part series, Deborah takes us on a wild career ride—working in the White House, pivoting to Silicon Valley, and learning that fear and division drive politics, but collaboration fuels innovation. She shares how a single conversation at a Starbucks led to her first venture funding (yes, really), why failing fast is a non-negotiable skill, and how risk-taking has shaped her entrepreneurial journey.Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Capitol Hill to Silicon Valley – “In D.C., I learned how to divide people. In Silicon Valley, I learned how to bring them together.” Deborah reflects on her 18 years in Washington and how moving west flipped her worldview on work, collaboration, and success.The Starbucks Moment – “I was in line at Starbucks when a stranger asked, ‘How can I help you?’ Three weeks later, I was sitting with a top venture capitalist who said, ‘I like you. Figure out something to do. I’ll fund you.’” Deborah’s introduction to Silicon Valley’s pay-it-forward culture changed everything.Entrepreneurial Instincts – “Most of my companies weren’t grand plans—I just saw a problem and built a solution.”From launching a networking platform for women in venture capital to creating a sweat-proof undershirt on a speaking tour, Deborah proves that the best businesses start with simple observations.Work is Changing—Are You? – “We’re moving into a bifurcated workforce—traditional employment will still exist, but the smartest workers are creating their own playbook.” Why the old career paths are fading, and how the next generation is redefining success._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Deborah Perry Piscione_________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Part Three of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).  We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.Today's Part 3, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Degrees vs. skills: The battle for relevance – If Josh and Vince, proud Ivy League grads, are questioning the value of degrees, maybe it’s time we all did.Web3, DAOs, and the digital workplace revolution – Why the next wave of companies won’t have middle managers breathing down your neck.What happens to companies that don’t adapt? – Hint: They’ll struggle to attract Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and anyone who doesn’t dream of a soul-sucking 9-to-5._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Drean_________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Part Two of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).  In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, we dug into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.Here in Part 2, where look deep into the book's journey: how did this provocative and ambitious book come about in the very first place?Key Highlights of Our Interview:A Book Born from a Cold Call“I know this sounds completely random, but do you want to write a book together?” That’s how co-author Deborah Perry Piscione kickstarted Employment is Dead. One unexpected call, a bold idea, and a title sticky enough to catch Harvard Business Review’s attention.The Slow Reality of Publishing in a Fast-Changing World“Can you imagine writing a chapter about a year ago and then having it publish a year later? It’s outdated week to week almost.” While AI and Web3 reshape the workforce at lightning speed, traditional publishing still takes years. To bridge the gap, Josh turned to TikTok, LinkedIn, and YouTube—engaging with audiences in real-time while waiting for the book’s release.A 120-Page Proposal and a Bidding War“Before we knew it, we had 120 pages of this proposal, which was much too long.” What started as an overstuffed pitch ended in a bidding war among publishers. The reason? Josh and Deborah weren’t just talking about changing work culture—they were exposing how outdated employment structures hold workers back._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Drean_________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Part One of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).  We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.This is Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.Stay tuned for Part 2, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Why “people are our greatest asset” is corporate gaslighting – If people were really assets, why are they still an expense on the balance sheet?The future is flexible, but companies are stuck in the past – Why forcing employees back to the office is like making them commute to a typewriter factory._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Josh Drean_________________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Power of a Reflective Movie Theater Exercise“I have people visualize that movie that plays is actually not the blockbuster. It’s actually your life playing and your career…What might you call that movie?”Beyond the Corporate 360: Finding Stories That Matter“This is not the 360 that many of us from corporate America are used to…the goal here is to go and talk to three to five people who know you, care about you, and want you to succeed.”Feedback as a Double-Edged Sword“People could give feedback that might reinforce the wrong narrative…we just have to be careful and think about them as inputs, not absolute truths.”The Weight of Opinions and Invisible Biases“We unknowingly put more weight on some people’s opinions than others…whether it’s because of the friendship, the level of friendship, or the position they have.”Rewriting Stories with Every Interaction“I’m never telling the same story twice. I’m rewriting the story as I’m telling you based on your face, your facial expressions, your body language, your tone of voice. There are all those factors that play into it that make it incredibly complex.”_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare______________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chris Hare usually helps execs polish their pitches—but now he’s in the hot seat. In this three-part series, we flip the script and unpack the art (and occasional chaos) of storytelling.• Part 1 dives into the world of corporate storytelling—what works, what bombs, and how to not sound like a robot in a boardroom.• Part 2 gets personal—Chris shares stories that shaped him, including a few that left lasting impressions (for better or worse).• Part 3 puts theory into practice—Chris hands us the tools to craft our own stories, and I test them out… possibly with tissues nearby.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Rewriting Your Inner Cassette Tape“I find it helpful and more visceral to think about our personal narratives as a cassette tape—a tape that’s playing in our head that we’re constantly writing, rewriting, and adjusting.”Building One Authentic Narrative Across Multiple Worlds“A serial CEO I worked with wanted one narrative that connected his private equity, board roles, and yoga community. The result was an authentic narrative rooted in his true self that could be lensed across different audiences.”Proximity Blinds Us to Our Own Stories"We’re so close to our own narrative and stories that we don’t see the broader picture… if you’re building with Lego, you might not see that there’s a gigantic pile of Lego behind you."Changing the Inputs to Shift the Narrative and Change the Outcome“If you continue to put in the same inputs, things likely won’t change… One of the positive inputs I changed was I got into fly fishing, and that was part of changing those inputs to shift not only the narrative but the outcomes.”The Power of Raw Storytelling"Our stories are not always the really clean, really curated story that makes us look good, but that raw story that has the power to shift the future."_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Hare______________________--Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.10 Million+ All-Time Downloads.Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.Global Top 3% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>130,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.20 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1% Podcast.Top 5 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.