

The Talk Show With John Gruber
Daring Fireball / John Gruber
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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Apr 1, 2021 • 1h 55min
311: ‘Toaster Fridgey’, With Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie returns to the show to speculate about pending Apple product announcements and events. Lots of guessing, no wagering.
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WWDC starts June 7.
Gurman rumor of a rugged Apple Watch.
Rene’s YouTube channel.
Rene’s first year as an indie video maker, by the numbers.
MacBreak Weekly, which Rene now co-hosts..
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Mar 24, 2021 • 2h 32min
310: ‘Russian Nesting Doll Code’, With Jason Snell
Special guest Jason Snell joins the show to reminisce over 20 years of Mac OS X. I mean OS X. Sorry, MacOS. Also: HomePod, Apple TV, and Intel’s awkward new ad campaign.
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The 20 Macs for 2020 podcast project, now with all three bonus content episodes with yours truly.
[Apple’s March 21, 2001 press release announcing Mac OS X 10.0’s release, including where to buy it (it came in a box and cost $129)](. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2001/03/21Mac-OS-X-Hits-Stores-This-Weekend/).
Jason in August 2000: “Mac OS X: The Full Story”.
Jason’s 10.1 story for Macworld.
Steve Jobs claiming in 2005 — announcing the Mac’s Intel transition — that Mac OS X had set up Apple “for the next 20 years”.
Jason: “Can Apple Explain Its Home Strategy?”.
iMac Pro canceled in Friday night announcement.
HomePod canceled the next Friday night.
Dan Frakes’s review of the iPod Hi-Fi in 2006.
Yours truly on Intel’s new “Go PC” campaign with Justin Long: “Intel Goes Long” and “Going Longer”.
Stickergate.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Feb 27, 2021 • 2h 54min
309: ‘Pinkies on the Semicolon’, With John Siracusa
The state of the Mac, with special guest John Siracusa.
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Siracusa’s Mac OS X reviews:
OS X 10.10 Yosemite
OS X 10.9 Mavericks
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
Mac OS X 10.7 Lion
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger
Mac OS X 10.3 Panther
Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar
Mac OS X 10.1
Mac OS X 10.0
Mac OS X DP4
Mac OS X DP3
Mac OS X DP2
Siracusa’s entire archive at Ars Technica
Hypercritical — Siracusa’s seldom-updated website
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Feb 20, 2021 • 2h 27min
308: ‘Peak Hubris’, With Christina Warren
Christina Warren returns to the show to talk about Apple Car, Apple TV, Clubhouse, and Bloomberg hamfistedly revisiting “The Big Hack”.
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Links:
Daring Fireball posts on Bloomberg’s “Big Hack” update.
“Hard News: The Scandals at The New York Times and Their Meaning for American Media” by Seth Mnookin.
Zeynep Tucekci: “Critical Thinking Isn’t Just a Process” — interesting post about reading through the lines of authoritarian doublespeak.
Marc Newson’s Ikepod watches, ideas which carried through to Apple Watch.
Rocket — Christina’s podcast with Brianna Wu and Simone De Rochefort.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Feb 1, 2021 • 2h 37min
307: ‘Soviet Toilet Paper’, With John Moltz
John Moltz returns to the show to give stock market investment advice.
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Ming-Chi Kuo and Mark Gurman reports on 2021 Macs.
Mimeographs.
San Antonio 10 year old who got 10 shares of GameStop stock as a gift from his mom and made $3000.
Titanium G4 PowerBook.
Robinhood overview by NYT.
Philly COVID vaccination fiasco.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jan 16, 2021 • 1h 45min
306: ‘A Total Landscaping’, With Mike Monteiro
Mike Monteiro returns to the show to talk about the Capitol insurrection and riot, Twitter and Facebook permanently banning Donald Trump, the shutdown of Parler, the fate of liberal democracy, and Mike’s new book, The Collected Angers.
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Jack Dorsey’s strange, rambling thread on Twitter’s decision to permanently ban Donald Trump.
Sheryl Sandberg says Capitol riot planning didn’t happen on Facebook.
Washington Post story on the travails of Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s Secret Service trying to find a toilet.
Sarah Kendzior’s “Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America”.
“The Collected Angers” — Mike’s new book of essays.
Bayard — the wonderful pitch-perfect typeface on the cover of “The Collected Angers”, from Vocal Type.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jan 1, 2021 • 3h 1min
305: ‘Star Wars: The Mandalorian’ Holiday Spectacular, With Special Guests Guy English and John Siracusa’
As per holiday tradition at The Talk Show, a brief chat about *Star Wars: The Mandalorian*, with a cavalcade of special guests, including, but not necessarily limited to, Guy English and John Siracusa.
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+ [2014's "Star Wars" Holiday Spectacular](https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2014/12/31/ep-106)
+ [2015’s "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" Holiday Spectacular](https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2015/12/31/ep-141).
+ [2017's "Star Wars: The Last Jedi" Holiday Spectacular](https://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2017/12/31/ep-211)
*This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.*

Dec 24, 2020 • 2h 49min
304: ‘2020 Year in Review’, With Rene Ritchie
A look back at one hell of a year.
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Links:
Reuters ignites long simmering Project Titan talk.
My take on this Apple car rumor.
Elon Musk off-handedly quips that he tried to sell Tesla to Apple a few years ago and Tim Cook wouldn’t take the meeting.
Loren Brichter’s “Chome Is Bad” single-serving website.
Pitch Meeting: “Tenet” (the best review of “Tenet” you’ll see).
Rene and yours truly debating whether Macs will and/or should support touchscreens on Rene’s YouTube channel, with the full-length version available on Nebula.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dec 12, 2020 • 2h 1min
303: ‘Half of the Bikini Emoji’, With Matthew Panzarino
Matthew Panzarino joins the show to talk about Apple's new AirPods Max headphones and the future of the Mac on Apple Silicon.
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Panzarino: “This Is Not a Review of Apple’s New AirPods Max Headphones”.
Yours truly: “Heavy Is the Head That Wears the AirPods Max”.
Panzarino’s M1 MacBook Pro review, with jaw-dropping speed and battery life results from Xcode.
James Mangold to direct fifth Indiana Jones movie.
Todd Vaziri on a fun audio Easter egg in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Steve Martin’s “autograph” cards.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Dec 1, 2020 • 2h 4min
302: ‘Camera Beer Belly’, With Nilay Patel
Nilay Patel returns to the show and we have nothing to talk about. You know, other than the M1 Macs and entire iPhone 12 lineup.
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Decoder — new/relaunched interview podcast hosted by Nilay. (Overcast link.)
“The Pandemic Work Diary of a Podcasting Tech Editor” — nice feature in the NYT on Nilay’s workday.
The Verge’s reviews for the M1 MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac Mini.
Yours truly’s review of the M1 MacBook Pro.
Patrick Moorhead’s “last honest man” style review of the M1 MacBook Air for Forbes, which, just one week later, is not aging well.
The Verge’s reviews for the iPhone 12 Pro Max and iPhone 12 Mini. And from a few weeks prior: the iPhone 12 and 12 Pro.
Yours truly’s reviews of the iPhone 12/12 Pro and 12 Mini/12 Pro Max.
“Verizon and AT&T Have Vastly Different Ideas About Phone Cases” — Ashley Carman’s 2018 profile for The Verge of Helena Elicerio, Verizon’s phone case product manager.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.