

The Talk Show With John Gruber
Daring Fireball / John Gruber
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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Jul 22, 2021 • 2h 6min
318: ‘Holes in the Blast Door’, With Matthew Panzarino
Matthew Panzarino returns to the show. Topics include: Apple’s new MagSafe Battery Pack, the Amnesty-International-Led exposé of NSO Group’s state-sponsored phone hacking, Safari 15’s controversial new UI and Apple’s response, and a look back at year one of Apple silicon for Macs. Also: pizza.
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Battery Packs:
Apple’s $99 MagSafe Battery Pack
Anker’s $46 PowerCore Magnetic 5K MagSafe-compatible battery pack
Rene Ritchie’s first-look at Apple’s new battery pack
The Amnesty-International-led exposé of NSO Group’s Pegasus phone-hacking capabilities and abuse:
Amnesty’s report
Tweet thread from Citizen Lab’s Bill Marczak
The Washington Post’s report with a clickbait headline
The Guardian’s report
Google’s Project Zero on Apple’s “BlastDoor” sandboxing protection for iMessage introduced in iOS 14
Safari 15’s much-criticized new UIs and Apple’s seeming “we’re listening” reaction:
My take on Safari 15 for iOS and Mac
And a follow-up
Me, on Rene Ritchie’s YouTube show
Jason Snell’s take for Macworld: “a self-inflicted wound but first aid may be on the way”
Miscellaneous:
Valve’s upcoming Steam Deck, a Switch-inspired handheld gaming PC
Brian Heater on Steam Deck for TechCrunch
Moft’s $29 MagSafe credit-card-sized foldable iPhone stand
Ooni gas pizza ovens
Una Pizza Napoletana — the heavenly formerly-in-San-Francisco pizza restaurant where every single pie was made by owner Anthony Mangieri
Una Pizza is now in New Jersey and Mangieri now makes pepperoni pies that sound amazing
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jun 27, 2021 • 1h 59min
317: ‘The NOC List’, With Rene Ritchie
Special guest Rene Ritchie returns to the show to talk about the nuances of sideloading, Apple’s antitrust pressures, and a look back at the announcements from WWDC 2021.
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The NOC List (Mission Impossible).
Rene’s WWDC interview with Kevin Lynch and Deidre Caldbeck from Apple.
The Talk Show Remote From WWDC 2021, with Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak.
Rene on sideloading.
Yours truly on sideloading.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jun 12, 2021 • 1h 25min
316: Remote From WWDC 2021 With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak
Special guests Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak join me to discuss the news from WWDC 2021: the all-new multitasking interface in iPadOS 15, on-device Siri, new privacy controls in Safari and Mail, MacOS 12 Monterey, and more.
This episode of The Talk Show is available to watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-SzbucgATjA.
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Previous episodes of The Talk Show Live (or Remote) From WWDC: 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015.
Apple’s WWDC 2021 keynote and Platforms State of the Union.
iOS 15
iPadOS 15
MacOS 12 Monterey
WatchOS 8
Shared Health data
Privacy
Developer tools
The audio for this episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton. The video was produced and edited by Sandwich.

May 29, 2021 • 1h 57min
315: ‘I Don’t Know How to Read’, With Joanna Stern
Special guest: the one and only Joanna Stern. Topics: new iMacs, Touch ID vs. Face ID, remote controls, surveillance advertising, and people who want to make everything a video call when a good old-fashioned voice call would do.
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Function101 Remote Control for Apple TV.
Robert G. Reeves's tweet thread about getting Twitter ads for the brand of toothpaste his mother uses after spending a week at her house.
"Apple declined to comment on if this is just an elaborate troll at this point.".
Joanna's latest: "Stop With the Video Chats Already. Just Make a Voice Call.".
Joanna Stern Interviews Craig Federighi About ATT and 'Superman'.
Joanna on AirTags vs. Tile.
Nicole Nguyen for the WSJ: "Apple’s New iPad Pro vs. MacBook Air".
Apple Platform Security Guide: "Secure Intent and Connections to the Secure Enclave".
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

May 25, 2021 • 2h 15min
314: ‘Obviously Tier One’, With Marco Arment
Marco Arment returns to the show to talk about the new Apple TV remote control. (Also, the new M1 iMacs and iPad Pros.)
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Links:
Accidental Tech Podcast.
Casey Liss, who really does do a good job as de facto host of ATP, and to whom I probably owe a beer now.
Overcast — the app you’re probably using to listen to this show.
My reviews of the new 24-inch M1 iMac, M1 iPad Pro, and Apple TV remote and the hardware set-top box it optionally comes with.
Marco’s Ratio coffee maker.
“Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire” — excellent 1996 video game for Nintendo 64.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

May 1, 2021 • 2h 59min
313: ‘The Sour Grapes Commission’, With Glenn Fleishman
Glenn Fleishman returns to the show to talk about last week’s “Spring Loaded” product announcements from Apple: subscription podcasts, AirTags, Apple TV, colorful Apple Silicon iMacs, and the M1 iPad Pros.
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My roundup of the “Spring Loaded” Apple event.
Podswap: independent repair shop that offers to swap out AirPods for refurbished buds with fresh batteries for $60.
Jeff Carlson on Podswap for TidBITS.
Battery Monitor: Battery diagnostic utility for the Mac. $5, cheap!
Joe Steel on the Siri Remote: “This remote was an abomination that should have never made it out of the design lab it was drafted in.”
MacOS User Guide: Content Caching on MacOS and the list of supported content types.
Apple Platform Security Guide.
Glenn’s “Take Control of Your M-Series Mac” book.
“Take Control of Securing Your Mac”, also by Glenn.
Tiny Type Museum — only a few remaining!
Howard Oakley’s excellent The Eclectic Light Company — a copiously detailed resource for Mac and iOS platform troubleshooting.
“Some Cafe Owners Pull the Plug on Lingering Wi-Fi Users” — Glenn’s June 2005 story for The New York Times, which he believes to be the first story of its kind.

Apr 11, 2021 • 2h 37min
312: ‘Not to Get Zealotrous’, With Craig Mod
Craig Mod joins the show to talk about writing, designing, filmmaking, what makes for good software, and building a successful membership program to support independent art. And: pizza toast.
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Craig’s annual essays about running a subscription:
Year one.
Year two.
“Kissa by Kissa” — Craig’s book documenting, in words and photos, “walking 1,000+km of the countryside of Japan along the ancient Nakasendō highway, the culture of toast (toast!), and mid-twentieth century Japanese cafés called kissaten.”
“Pizza Toast & Coffee” — Craig’s new short film.
Craigstarter — Craig’s open source project to host your own Kickstarter-like projects.
Craig’s recent essay for Wired on the pleasure of programming, or as he calls it, “coding”.
“Fast Software, the Best Software” — Craig’s 2019 essay on the feel of software tools.
Kevin Kelly’s seminal “1,000 True Fans” essay.
Author Karl Ove Knausgård, who calls his editors each day to read that day’s work to them.
Software tools mentioned:
Ulyssses.
Final Cut Pro, which no longer has an “X”.
Lightroom Classic, the “Classic” part of which feels ominous.
Robin Sloan’s tweet deleting script.
Plausible Analytics.
Fathom Analytics.
fzf — Command-line fuzzy finder search tool.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Apr 1, 2021 • 1h 55min
311: ‘Toaster Fridgey’, With Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie returns to the show to speculate about pending Apple product announcements and events. Lots of guessing, no wagering.
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WWDC starts June 7.
Gurman rumor of a rugged Apple Watch.
Rene’s YouTube channel.
Rene’s first year as an indie video maker, by the numbers.
MacBreak Weekly, which Rene now co-hosts..
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Mar 24, 2021 • 2h 32min
310: ‘Russian Nesting Doll Code’, With Jason Snell
Special guest Jason Snell joins the show to reminisce over 20 years of Mac OS X. I mean OS X. Sorry, MacOS. Also: HomePod, Apple TV, and Intel’s awkward new ad campaign.
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The 20 Macs for 2020 podcast project, now with all three bonus content episodes with yours truly.
[Apple’s March 21, 2001 press release announcing Mac OS X 10.0’s release, including where to buy it (it came in a box and cost $129)](. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2001/03/21Mac-OS-X-Hits-Stores-This-Weekend/).
Jason in August 2000: “Mac OS X: The Full Story”.
Jason’s 10.1 story for Macworld.
Steve Jobs claiming in 2005 — announcing the Mac’s Intel transition — that Mac OS X had set up Apple “for the next 20 years”.
Jason: “Can Apple Explain Its Home Strategy?”.
iMac Pro canceled in Friday night announcement.
HomePod canceled the next Friday night.
Dan Frakes’s review of the iPod Hi-Fi in 2006.
Yours truly on Intel’s new “Go PC” campaign with Justin Long: “Intel Goes Long” and “Going Longer”.
Stickergate.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Feb 27, 2021 • 2h 54min
309: ‘Pinkies on the Semicolon’, With John Siracusa
The state of the Mac, with special guest John Siracusa.
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Siracusa’s Mac OS X reviews:
OS X 10.10 Yosemite
OS X 10.9 Mavericks
OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
Mac OS X 10.7 Lion
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger
Mac OS X 10.3 Panther
Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar
Mac OS X 10.1
Mac OS X 10.0
Mac OS X DP4
Mac OS X DP3
Mac OS X DP2
Siracusa’s entire archive at Ars Technica
Hypercritical — Siracusa’s seldom-updated website
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.