

DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall
Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou and political cartoonist Ted Rall "deprogram" the latest domestic and international news and trends so you can see through the spin in the headlines to the raw truth you need to know.John's real-world undercover experiences—both inside the CIA, serving around the globe, and paying a high price for exposing official crimes—provide a uniquely informed perspective on the US government and its activities around the globe.Ted's immersion in the media—prize-winning cartoonist and columnist, radio host, editor at multiple outlets, and the veteran of bruising First Amendment legal battles—informs analysis that cuts through the spin."DeProgram" offers fast-paced, entertaining analysis you can't get anywhere else.Live & Streaming on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLive & Streaming on Rumble:https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow
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Nov 25, 2025 • 59min
Pentagon Investigates Mark Kelly Over “Illegal Orders” Video | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
The Pentagon's investigation into Senator Mark Kelly sparks debate on free speech and military obedience. The hosts dive into shifting European attitudes toward Russia as concerns grow over military preparedness. They also analyze RFK Jr.'s public image amid scandal, along with the U.S. response to conflicts in Sudan and Venezuela. Trump's healthcare proposal faces resistance within his party, and the instability within both major political parties is explored, questioning the future led by figures like Trump.

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Nov 24, 2025 • 58min
What's Next for Marjorie Taylor Greene?? | DeProgram Show with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Marjorie Taylor Greene has resigned from Congress, sparking discussions about her future and implications for MAGA. The hosts explore the ongoing Geneva talks regarding Ukraine, and how these developments could affect the Russo-Ukrainian War. They also delve into the abrupt shutdown of Doge, debating its fallout and legal repercussions. Additionally, they examine rising tensions in Japan and the broader impact of political loyalty within the GOP. Finally, reflections on recent notable passings add a poignant touch to the conversation.

Nov 24, 2025 • 59min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “End Game in Ukraine?”
A U.S. military delegation arrives in Kyiv, promoting a controversial 28-point peace plan with Russia. Meanwhile, President Zelensky faces a $100 million corruption scandal involving a key ally, sparking public outrage and political upheaval. The discussion dives into whistleblower accountability and the risks of political assets going rogue, highlighting past intelligence failures. With a potential ceasefire on the horizon, the hosts explore the implications for Ukraine's future and the quest for unity amidst turmoil.

Nov 20, 2025 • 58min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “CIA Cover-Up on JFK Exposed”
Uncover the shadows of history and the fractures of modern power on the DeProgram show with political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou. Tune in as Ted and John dissect today's bombshell disclosures.CIA Cover-Up in JFK Assassination Probe: Former CIA historian, Thomas L. Pearcy, steps forward as a whistleblower for the first time, exposing a secret 50-page inspector general's report from 1978 in which the CIA brags about misleading Congress about Lee Harvey Oswald's Mexico City activities before Kennedy's slaying. Pearcy, now a professor at Slippery Rock University, stumbled upon the document in a secure CIA safe room in 2009 while researching Latin American policy; it details how officers handed over "sanitized" duplicates of files to House Select Committee chief counsel Robert Blakey, deleting key evidence and prompting a CIA memo mocking Blakey's "incurious" review after just 20-30 minutes per volume. As the 62nd anniversary of the stunning assassination approaches Saturday, Trump's pledge to release all JFK records under the 1992 Act comes under scrutiny, with the CIA claiming commitment to transparency despite withholding photos, films, and admissions of monitoring Oswald via agent George Joannides—fueling calls from experts like Jefferson Morley for immediate declassification of this blueprint for lying to the public.Ambassador Huckabee's Secret Meeting with Spy Pollard: U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee hosts Jonathan J. Pollard, the convicted Cold War spy who served 30 years for leaking classified intel to Israel, in a clandestine July gathering at the Jerusalem Embassy that blindsides the White House and CIA. Pollard, 71 and now eyeing a right-wing Knesset run while pushing Gaza annexation, describes the off-schedule encounter as "friendly," marking his first U.S. government-hosted meeting since 2015 parole; Huckabee, courting Israel's right wing, thanks Pollard for past advocacy without detailing discussions that touch on Trump's Saudi arms deals. Critics like ex-Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer decry the breach of protocol, questioning rehabilitation of a traitor who embraces "Israel first" over America, especially after Huckabee's prior hosting of sanctioned far-right ministers—exposing deepening rifts in U.S.-Israel diplomacy.Trump-Mamdani Oval Office Showdown: Trump confirms a Friday sit-down in the Oval Office with New York City mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, the 34-year-old democratic socialist who surged from Queens lawmaker to victory on an affordability platform backed by over a million voters. After months of Trump's "communist" smears, deportation threats, and vows to slash federal funds, this customary-yet-charged meeting shifts toward shared rhetoric on economic security and public safety, following Republican election setbacks in key states. Mamdani, a naturalized Ugandan-American, pledges to "Trump-proof" the city while collaborating where it benefits New Yorkers, testing detente amid Trump's recent pivot to affordability as the "Party of Affordability!"—highlighting clashing visions for urban America.

Nov 19, 2025 • 56min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “China Using LinkedIn to Recruit Spies”
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou tell you all about a bizarre scheme by the Ministry of State Security to ensnare UK lawmakers, staffers, consultants, economists, and think tank experts. Shifting to the U.S., the latest NPR/PBS News/Marist poll reveals Democrats surging 14 points ahead—55%-41%—on congressional ballots, independents favoring them 33 points, signaling a possible “blue wave” if Democrats don’t mess it up. Trump is greenlighting CIA covert ops in Venezuela—prepping sabotage, cyber, or psyops battlefields—as the State designation of “Cartel de los Soles terrorists” turns out to be a figment of the imagination. And Montreal's Allan Memorial Institute survivor leads a class-action lawsuit exposing CIA's MK-Ultra mind control via unwitting LSD dosing, electroshocks, "psychic driving" tapes, barbiturates, stimulants, nitrous oxide, sensory deprivation, and comas on thousands of Canadians across 100+ sites. Wanted in the UK: MSS Spies: MI5 unveils China's Ministry of State Security (their CIA) deploy China-based headhunters like Amanda Qiu and Shirly Shen to covertly approach UK targets via LinkedIn and fake firms, posing freelance geopolitical gigs to harvest low-value intel pieces as a predecessor for broader efforts. Security Minister Dan Jarvis calls it a threat to democracy, just months after prosecutors dropped charges against accused spies. Beijing's embassy fires back, calling the allegations "malicious slander," as MI5's Ken McCallum last month decried Beijing's cyber thefts and public life intrusions.U.S. Midterm Poll Bad for Republicans: The November 10-13 NPR/PBS News/Marist survey of 1,443 adults shows Democrats commanding a 14-point edge—55%-41%—in congressional races, with independents swinging 33 points blue, evoking 2017's prelude to 40-seat gains amid Trump's 39% approval low and 48% strong disapproval peak. Voters blame Republicans or Trump for shutdowns hits 60%, while 57% prioritize price drops over immigration, eroding GOP momentum despite 90% base approval. Institutional distrust soars—80% hate Congress, 75% hate media—with 80%+ across aisles viewing opponents as "closed-minded," 70% "dishonest," independents harsher on Republicans, brewing volatility after the Dems’ recent wins.Trump Goes Covert Against Venezuela: President Trump authorizes CIA covert measures—potentially sabotage, cyber, psyops, coinciding with the USS Gerald R. Ford's weekend Caribbean arrival, 15,000 troops, and "Operation Southern Spear" buildup rivaling 1962's Cuba blockade, as planners map drug facility and Maduro-loyalist strikes. Back-channel parleys yield Maduro's rejected two-year delay on resignation for U.S. oil access, with State set to terrorist-label the fictional “Cartel de los Soles,” enabling escalation; Trump hints at ground forces, stressing drug/immigration curbs publicly while eyeing resources privately. 21 congressional-bypassing boat strikes killed 83, only hitting cocaine despite fentanyl talk, amid undecided endgame—diplomacy, voluntary exit, or forcible removal.MK-Ultra Lawsuit Advances in Canada: A Montreal judge rejects Royal Victoria Hospital's appeal, advancing class-action suit by Allan Memorial survivor Lana Ponting, age 16 in 1958, against CIA-backed MK-Ultra experiments involving unwitting LSD, electroshocks, "psychic driving" tape loops of conflicting messages, barbiturates, stimulants, nitrous oxide, deprivation, and comas on thousands via 100+ sites. Committed for "disobedient" teen antics post-move, Ponting uncovers files revealing Dr. Ewen Cameron's McGill horrors—unbeknownst CIA-funded till 1964—yielding lifelong meds, nightmares, memory loss; excluded from 1992's C$100,000 humanitarian payouts sans liability.

Nov 19, 2025 • 58min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Israel’s Discreet Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza”
Is Israel furtively indulging in slow-motion ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Gaza to South Africa and other countries? South Africa suspects yes. Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou bring you up to speed on this shocking story as well as alleged prosecutorial screw-ups threatening the high-profile indictment of James Comey to global shifts in migration and education.Comey Indictment in Jeopardy: A federal magistrate judge drops a scathing 24-page ruling, slamming inexperienced prosecutor Lindsey Halligan for "fundamental and highly prejudicial" misstatements of law during her solo grand jury appearance seeking charges against former FBI Director James Comey for lying to Congress in his notorious 2020 testimony. Judge William E. Fitzpatrick orders immediate disclosure of incomplete grand jury materials to Comey's lawyers, raising "genuine issues of misconduct" that could force dismissal, while prosecutors scramble with an emergency halt request. The jurist’s extraordinary rebuke, amid doubts over Halligan's legitimacy, underscores unraveling Justice Department efforts, including Trump's ousting of her predecessor for insufficient evidence.US International Student Enrollment Plummets: New research finds a 17% drop in first-time international student enrollments at US universities this fall, driven by Trump administration visa delays, denials, and heightened scrutiny including mandatory social media checks following pro-Palestine campus protests. The Institute of International Education's survey across 828 institutions notes a modest 1% overall decline but warns of steeper losses in the future, as 84% of schools say they prioritize foreign recruitment amid $55 billion economic contributions. Universities respond with 39% more deferrals, countering factors like travel restrictions affecting 2% of students and growing perceptions of an unwelcoming environment, despite Trump's recent pledge to double Chinese student visas for business gains. South Africa Rejects Palestinian Charter Flights: South Africa's Foreign Minister Ronald Lamola bans additional chartered flights carrying Palestinians, calling the recent arrival of 153 from Gaza a "clear agenda to cleanse Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank" in an orchestrated global resettlement push. The group, routed via Nairobi without prior coordination, endured over 10 hours stranded at OR Tambo Airport due to missing departure stamps before intervention by a charity allowed 130 to enter the RSA on compassionate grounds. This follows a similar flight two weeks prior, amid Israel's voluntary relocation rhetoric criticized internationally, as South Africa—long a Palestinian ally since Mandela's era—investigates amid its ICJ genocide case against Israel.UN Security Council OKs Trump Plan: Highlights include the deployment of an international peacekeeping force and a possible path to a sovereign Palestinian state. The resolution, passed by a vote of 13-0 with abstentions by China and Russia, was the price the US paid for backing from the Arab and Islamic world, who are expected to provide peacekeepers. However, Netanyahu, restated his adamant opposition to the creation of a Palestinian state. Hamas rejected what it described as an imposed “international guardianship mechanism” and insisted it would not disarm. What now?

Nov 17, 2025 • 60min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Trump Flip-Flops on Epstein”
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou catch you up from the weekend in news. Among the highlights: Trump’s Epstein flip-flop, Chile chooses between extreme left and right, Iran stops uranium enrichment, and the US plan for Gaza gets bogged down in the Security Counsel.Trump's Sudden Epstein Files Reversal: Trying to avoid a humiliating defeat in the House, President Trump now urges House Republicans to back a measure compelling the Justice Department to release Epstein files, marking a sharp pivot after his campaign to quash GOP dissent and halt the vote after the shutdown. He posts on social media, insisting Republicans vote yes "because we have nothing to hide," while dismissing the push as a "Democrat Hoax" to deflect from Republican victories like averting a shutdown. This turn follows intense White House pressure, including Situation Room meetings with his AG and FBI director, amid scrutiny over newly released emails where Epstein claims Trump spent hours at his home with a trafficking victim; tensions erupt with allies like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.Chile's Presidential Runoff Pits Left Against Far-Right: Chile's election heads to a December 14 runoff between Communist Party's Jeannette Jara, who edges out the first round, and far-right José Antonio Kast, amid surging crime and immigration debates fueled by 1.9 million foreigners, including 330,000 undocumented Venezuelans. Jara pledges lithium production increases, minimum wage hikes, new prisons, and army border deployments to expel drug-trafficking foreigners, warning that democracy faces risks after costly recoveries. Kast vows Trump-style walls, ditches along Peru-Bolivia borders, mass deportations, and El Salvador-like maximum-security prisons, blaming migrants for crime despite studies showing lower offense rates; his Pinochet-linked family history and anti-abortion stance rally splintered right-wing votes from Evelyn Matthei and Johannes Kaiser, potentially tilting Chile rightward in Latin America's shifting tides.UN Security Council Clashes Over Gaza Resolution: The U.S. pushes a resolution annexing Trump's 20-point Gaza peace plan for international mandate, seeking UN backing for stabilization forces and a vague Board of Peace, but Russia counters with its own 10-point resolution demanding Palestinian statehood and unity of West Bank-Gaza, omitting U.S.-favored structures. China aligns with Russia, while Algeria, France, and Europeans demand clearer Palestinian Authority roles and self-determination pathways; the U.S. finalizes minimal changes, adding six-month progress reports but deferring statehood to the plan, prompting accusations of rushing texts that sideline Council authority. Tensions peak as Russia decries U.S. discord-sowing, with joint U.S. statements from Qatar, Egypt, UAE, Indonesia, and Pakistan hailing the plan as a "viable path," yet veto threats loom in a deadlock echoing two years of Gaza stalemates.Iran Halts Uranium Enrichment: Iran's Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi declares that no uranium enrichment is taking place at any site, following June bombings by Israel and the U.S. on facilities now under IAEA safeguards and monitoring. He affirms Iran's "undeniable" right to peaceful nuclear tech, including enrichment, vowing never to relinquish it while hoping for U.S. recognition to resume talks. This statement emerges during an AP-hosted summit on "International Law Under Assault," where Iranian analysts critique the 12-day war, spotlighting German Chancellor Friedrich Merz's praise for Israel's "dirty work." What’s Iran trying to do?

Nov 14, 2025 • 1h
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Did Hitler Have a Micro Weenie?”
Battles over academic freedom and executive power today’s episode of “DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou.” Texas A&M bans advocacy of “race or gender ideology,” an Indiana professor is suspended after a Trump-allied senator intervenes over a graphic labeling “Make America Great Again” as covert white supremacy, Senator John Fetterman is hospitalized again, a secret 40-page DOJ memo with odd reasoning justifies Trump’s lethal boat strikes, and new DNA analysis of Hitler blood reveals a rare genetic marker linked to delayed puberty, undescended testicles, and possible Kallmann syndrome.Texas A&M Censors Professors: Texas A&M System regents unanimously vote to prohibit courses from advocating “race or gender ideology” without presidential pre-approval and ban teaching anything inconsistent with the approved syllabus. This follows months of GOP accusations of liberal indoctrination and comes after a lecturer was fired in September for recognizing more than two genders. Faculty call it a direct assault on academic freedom; administrators insist it merely “clarifies” existing policy.Indiana University Censors Professors: Indiana University suspends social-work lecturer Jessica Adams from teaching after U.S. Senator Jim Banks (R-IN) complains about a pyramid graphic labeling “MAGA” as covert white supremacy. The complaint invokes Indiana’s new “intellectual diversity” law, prompting the dean to file the formal grievance against Adams. Adams says the 20-year-old graphic is standard in social-work education and warns of growing censorship driven by Trump-aligned politicians.Time To Resign?: Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) is hospitalized after falling during a morning walk, triggering a ventricular fibrillation flare-up that temporarily stops his heart from pumping correctly. Doctors keep him for observation and medication adjustments; the 56-year-old jokes about his bruised face. This marks another serious health episode following his 2022 stroke and 2023 light-headedness hospitalization. He’s already dodging constituents and behaving erratically. Is it time for Pennsylvania to get new representation?Secret DOJ Memo Uses Pretzel Logic to Justify Trump Boat Strikes: Echoing the Bush Adminstration’s “torture memo” by John Yoo, a classified 40-page Justice Department memo justifies Trump’s lethal naval strikes that have killed 80 suspected drug smugglers (and fishermen) by declaring the U.S. in armed conflict with “narco-terrorist” cartels—relying almost entirely on unverified White House claims. The memo treats drug boats as lawful military targets and provides immunity defenses against future murder charges. Critics call it legal cover for extrajudicial killings with no congressional authorization.Hitler DNA Reveals Rare Gene: New genetic analysis of verified Hitler blood from his 1945 bunker couch reveals a rare PROK2 mutation linked to Kallmann syndrome, delayed puberty, and possible undescended testicles/micropenis. The study definitively debunks Jewish ancestry rumors and finds extraordinarily high polygenic risk scores for schizophrenia, autism, and ADHD. Researchers stress the findings explain nothing about the Holocaust and warn against stigmatizing these conditions.

Nov 13, 2025 • 1h
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Trump Snubs US Workers at Mar-a-Lago”
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou examine the late child predator Jeffrey Epstein's claims that President Trump "spent hours" at his house with victim Virginia Giuffre and "knew about the girls," Israeli President Isaac Herzog’s belated condemnation of "shocking" settler attacks, and the Trump Organization files for a record 184 H-2A/H-2B foreign workers in 2025—up from 121 in 2021—for Mar-a-Lago servers. Is it really that hard to find good help here at home?Epstein-Trump Emails: House Democrats release explosive emails from Epstein's estate, asserting Trump "spent hours" with victim Virginia Giuffre at Epstein's home and "knew about the girls," including underage victims, in exchanges with Ghislaine Maxwell and Michael Wolff dating back to 2011 and 2019. Republicans fire back by unveiling over 20,000 pages of documents, denouncing the selective Democratic picks as a "hoax" timed to overshadow the government shutdown's resolution. Bipartisan momentum builds for a full Epstein files vote next week, despite Trump's vehement denials and White House claims of a smear campaign. Also: what about the rest of the Epstein Files over at the DOJ?West Bank Settler Violence: Better decades late than never! Israeli President Herzog finally condemns "shocking and serious" attacks today, where masked settlers torch dairy trucks, farmland, and a mosque in Beit Lid and Deir Sharaf, clashing with soldiers and wounding four Palestinians during olive harvests. Army chief Eyal Zamir echoes the rebuke, pledging to halt the "minority of criminals" diverting forces from counterterrorism, as UN reports October's 260+ incidents—the highest since 2006. Police arrest four Israelis, releasing three while probing arson and assaults, amid accusations of far-right government complicity. Meanwhile, the big question is: why do Israelis live in the West Bank?Trump Hires Hundreds of Foreign Workers: The Trump Organization requests a record 184 H-2A/H-2B visas for this year, staffing Mar-a-Lago, golf clubs, and Virginia estates with foreign servers, farmhands, and housekeepers—up from 121 in 2021, totaling 566 approvals. Trump justifies "talent" imports on Fox News, countering wage concerns, yet faces backlash from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's X criticism of worker replacement. This follows his September H-1B fee hike to $100,000, highlighting tensions in his deportation push. If the nation’s most prominent critic of immigration can’t find Americans, what’s really happening?

Nov 12, 2025 • 52min
DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Finally, the Epstein Files”
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou cue up the long-awaited Epstein files vote; a Trump Administration investigation of UC Berkeley over a skirmish at a Turning Point protest; the torture of 252 Venezuelans in El Salvador at the behest of the US; JNIM's fuel blockade highlights the rise of Al Qaeda in the Sahel in the wake of French withdrawals. DOJ Investigates UC Berkeley Protest Incident: The Justice Department announces an investigation into UC Berkeley after protesters confront Turning Point USA event attendees, with civil rights chief Harmeet Dhillon labeling demonstrators as Antifa operating with impunity. Protests outside Zellerbach Hall feature chants against Trump, a brief scatter from fireworks mistaken for gunshots, and four arrests including one violent off-campus incident. The probe may fold into ongoing UC system scrutiny over antisemitism and diversity practices, while the university condemns violence and cooperates with FBI. Will the White House babysit Turning Point everywhere they go?Epstein Files Discharge Petition Reaches 218 Signatures: Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva affixes the final signature to the bipartisan discharge petition led by Reps. Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna immediately after her swearing-in last night, triggering a seven-legislative-day countdown for the bill forcing full DOJ Epstein files release to hit the House floor. Senior aides estimate a contentious December vote, despite Speaker Mike Johnson's pivot to opposing it and Trump downplaying the matter as a hoax. Three GOP women—Boebert, Greene, and Mace—remain supportive amid White House pressure, with Massie predicting passage and potential Johnson allowing vulnerable members to vote yes.Venezuelans Tortured in El Salvador Gulag: A Human Rights Watch and Cristosal report reveals over 252 Venezuelans deported under Trump's policy endure systematic torture, sexual assault, beatings, and inhumane conditions at CECOT mega-prison. Detainees face prolonged incommunicado detention, inadequate food, and abuses after visits by officials like Kristi Noem, with the US paying $4.7 million to El Salvador despite known abuse. Groups demand independent DOJ investigation and halt to third-country deportations, comparing it to Abu Ghraib and accusing Trump administration complicity.JNIM Blockade Paralyzes Bamako, Mali: Al-Qaeda affiliate JNIM seals highways since September, imposing fuel blockade on Mali's capital, causing soaring prices, power cuts, school closures, and resident desperation. Ambushs burn tankers, abandon vehicles clog streets, and Western nations evacuate staff as JNIM leverages discontent to pressure military government toward negotiations. Analysts see growing JNIM hold aiming for regime change in Mali and Burkina Faso, with local deals in regions allowing siege lifts for taxes and non-cooperation with forces.


