DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall Coup! | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Jan 21, 2026
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou dive into a secret agreement from the Trump Administration concerning confidential data to sway election results. They explore the Greenland crisis, touching on its trade implications and the unusual discussions of potential U.S. invasion. Meanwhile, calls for a new global order challenge the reliability of the U.S. on the international stage. With sharp insights on crypto and past CIA pandemic planning, they navigate the absurdities and ethical dilemmas of modern geopolitics.
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Kinko's Mistook The Cartoonist
- Ted Rall tells a Kinko's story where staff questioned his right to copy his own cartoons until a staffer recognized him.
- The episode illustrates blind rule-following and the surreal bureaucratic adherence to copyright rules.
Personality Transformed A Party
- Trump reshaped the Republican Party by converting it into his vehicle rather than creating it from scratch.
- Ted Rall compares Trump's takeover to how Hitler expanded the Nazi party's reach through a dominant personality.
Madman Theory In Modern Diplomacy
- Trump's Greenland demand uses Nixon's 'madman theory' and bullying to force talks and concessions.
- Rall and Kiriakou warn that bluff-and-bluster tactics can coerce others without an actual military fight.
