

Changelog Interviews
Changelog Media
Conversations with the hackers, leaders, and innovators of the software world. Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo face their imposter syndrome so you don’t have to. Expect in-depth interviews with the best and brightest in software engineering, open source & leadership. This is a polyglot podcast. All programming languages, platforms & communities are welcome.
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Dec 18, 2024 • 1h 43min
We ain't afraid of no Ghostty!
Mitchell Hashimoto, co-founder of HashiCorp and creator of the innovative Ghostty terminal emulator, dives into the exciting world of terminal technology. He discusses the evolution of terminal emulators, revealing how Ghostty aims to enhance user experience while addressing the limitations of existing tools. Hashimoto reflects on the importance of community-driven projects and technical philanthropy in the software realm. He also shares his journey post-HashiCorp, balancing new parenthood and programming challenges, and offers a glimpse into the promising future of Ghostty as it approaches its 1.0 launch.

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Dec 12, 2024 • 1h 36min
Building the developer cloud
Kurt Mackey, Co-founder and CEO of Fly.io, dives into the intricacies of building a developer-centric cloud platform. He discusses the concept of a 'Rebel Alliance' among tech companies, highlighting the alliance's importance for cloud innovations. Kurt shares insights on balancing cloud complexity with usability, critiques of Neon and Supabase, and the exciting plans for a simplified CDN called Pipely. He candidly reflects on the emotional challenges of entrepreneurship while outlining future prospects for Fly.io and the evolving landscape of cloud services.

Dec 4, 2024 • 49min
Hack Club takes to the High Seas
Jerod is joined by Hack Clubber Acon, who is fresh off the GitHub Universe stage and ready to tell us all about High Seas, a new initiative by Zach Latta and the Hack Club crew that’s incentivizing teens to build cool personal projects by giving away free stuff.
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Featuring:Acon – Website, GitHubJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Leave us a voicemail for state of the “log”!
How do you do, fellow Hack Clubbers? (Changelog Interviews #536)
High Seas | Hack Club
Apocalypse: Toronto’s zombified high school hackathon!
Celeste
Nitro Type | Competitive Typing Game | Race Your Friends
Secret of Mana - Wikipedia
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 27, 2024 • 1h 38min
Let's archive the web
Nick Sweeting, a full-stack software engineer and founder of ArchiveBox.io, dives into the crucial realm of digital content archiving. He shares personal experiences from China's censored internet, emphasizing the need for both centralized and distributed solutions. The conversation tackles the balance between access and responsibility in archiving, examines ethical considerations, and discusses innovations in preserving digital memories. Sweeting also introduces the idea of 'time unlock' for personal archives, sparking intriguing thoughts on nostalgia and privacy.

Nov 20, 2024 • 1h 48min
Two tickets for Departure, please
Today we’re joined by a dynamic duo, Helena Zhang & Tobias Fried, who team up on all sorts of digital passion projects. This includes the wildly popular Phosphor Icons plus their latest joint, Departure Mono, a monospaced pixel font with a lo-fi technical vibe… that both Adam & Jerod are pretty much in love with. We discuss their tastes & inspirations, how they collab, making money on passion projects like these, velvet ropes & so much more.
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Featuring:Helena Zhang – LinkedIn, Mastodon, XTobias Fried – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Project sites
Departure Mono
Phosphor Icons
Fonts mentioned
Iosevka
Berkeley Mono
Commit Mono
IBM Plex
Unifont
Other cool stuff
A great library of old PC fonts
Somebody made the game from Severance!
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 14, 2024 • 47min
Gotta give to get back
We’re on the main stage at THAT Conference with Danny Thompson. He has an amazing story and journey into tech. Thanks to our friends at Cloudflare for helping us get to THAT Conference earlier this year to enable this conversation.
Special thanks to Nick Nisi and Clark Sell for coming in clutch and getting us the audio to ship this show!
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Featuring:Danny Thompson – GitHub, LinkedIn, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Nov 6, 2024 • 1h 46min
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols
The hallway track at All Things Open 2024 — features Carl George, Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat for a discussion on the state of open source enterprise linux and RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux), Max Howell, creator of Homebrew and tea.xyz which offers rewards and recognition to open source maintainers, and Chad Whitacre, Head of Open Source at Sentry about the launch of Open Source Pledge and their plans to helps businesses and orgs to do the right thing and support open source.
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Featuring:Carl George – GitHub, LinkedIn, XMax Howell – GitHub, XChad Whitacre – GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
RHEL
AlmaLinux
Rocky Linux
tea.xyz
opensourcepledge.com
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Oct 31, 2024 • 2h 2min
Rails is having a moment (again)
(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what’s to come in Rails 8.
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Featuring:David Heinemeier Hansson – GitHub, XAdam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XJerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, XShow Notes:
Rails World 2024 Keynote - David Heinemeier Hansson
What’s New in Ruby on Rails 8
Rails is leaning hard into SQLite right now
The Empowered Programmer (Justin Searls) - Rails World 2024
Kamal - Deploy web apps anywhere
LiteFS - Distributed SQLite
Turso - libsql
RubyGems.org
Automattic is doing open source dirty
Matt’s “Response to DHH”
Capture less than you create
My Freedom of Speech
Open Source and Power with Matt Mullenweg (Rework podcast)
Breaking Camp
Our cloud-exit savings will now top ten million over five years
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Oct 24, 2024 • 1h 24min
Elasticsearch is open source, again
Shay Banon, the creator of Elasticsearch and founder of Elastic, dives into the exciting return of Elasticsearch to open source. He discusses the challenging decision-making processes surrounding licensing and trademark law. Listeners will learn about the impact of this shift on both users and businesses, and the competition with Amazon's OpenSearch. Shay emphasizes the importance of community involvement to preserve open-source integrity and reflects on the cultural connections between innovation and creativity in tech.

Oct 17, 2024 • 1h 23min
Lessons from 10k hours of programming (remastered)
Kurt Mackey, Co-founder and CEO of Fly.io, and Ant Wilson, CTO at Supabase, dive into programming mastery after 10,000 hours of coding. They discuss the evolution of developer needs, advocating for modern cloud solutions that enhance usability. The conversation highlights complexities in software, like security vulnerabilities and the importance of code quality. They reflect on emotional ties to coding and stress the significance of balancing simplicity and functionality. Join them for insights that evolve the developer experience!


