

ATD Accidental Trainer
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ATD Accidental Trainer is an ATD podcast featuring bimonthly interviews with industry experts who share stories and tips about how to grow your training career. Hosted by Alexandria Clapp, ATD Accidental Trainer covers trends, strategies, and actionable information for talent development professionals.
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Jan 21, 2026 • 43min
Fix Your Broken Meetings with Rebecca Hinds
Rebecca Hinds holds a PhD from Stanford University and is the author of Your Best Meeting Ever. She is a leading expert on organizational behavior and joins the podcast to explore why meetings are hurting your organization more than helping. Rebecca explains how, in their current format, meetings lead to wasted time and money. The solution, she argues, is treating meetings as if they were products – designed intentionally, measured regularly, and continuously improved. In this episode, Rebecca provides the "4D-CEO Test" for deciding whether a meeting should exist, explains how organizational culture influences "meeting debt," and gives tips for measuring return on time invested. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-hinds/ Website: https://www.rebeccahinds.com/ Book: https://www.rebeccahinds.com/book

Jan 7, 2026 • 56min
Why Learning Is Hard—and Why That's a Good Thing with Julia Phelan
Learning is hard – but that's a good thing. In this episode of the ATD's Accidental Trainer podcast, learning scientist and co-founder of To Eleven, Julia Phelan, dives into why effective learning should feel challenging and how trainers can bring out the most growth in a learner amidst that challenge. Drawing from examples in music and sports, Julia emphasizes that struggle, practice, feedback, and time are essential for meaningful learning to occur. The conversation provides advice for setting realistic expectations, designing with intention, and adapting strategies as learners move from novice to expert. Rather than chasing "silver bullet" techniques, Julia urges L&D professionals to anchor their work in how learning actually happens and to remain flexible as conditions change. From playing guitar to onboarding, Julia lives by her mantra: learning is hard, and hard is learning. Resources: Website: https://to11solutions.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliacphelan/ ATD Content: https://www.td.org/p/julia-phelan Substack: https://juliaslearningstack.substack.com/p/welcome-to-julias-learning-stack?r=mwqc0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

Sep 24, 2025 • 47min
The Power of Employee Wellbeing with Mark C. Crowley
The key to higher performance isn't perks or programs, but genuine care for employees' well-being. Mark C. Crowley joins the podcast to share insights from his book The Power of Employee Wellbeing. Drawing on both research and his experience as a manager, Crowley explains why traditional engagement programs often fall short, how to meaningfully measure well-being, and the link between productivity and authentic workplace relationships. The conversation also explores how to build alignment between managers and employees, gather feedback on your leadership style, and support well-being in both remote and in-person settings. You'll leave this episode with evidence-based practices to elevate performance and strengthen employee satisfaction. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markccrowley Website: https://markccrowley.com/ Book: https://markccrowley.com/the_power_of_employee_well-being/ Fast Company Articles: https://www.fastcompany.com/user/mark-c-crowley John Gottman's Website: https://www.gottman.com/

Sep 10, 2025 • 40min
Tweak Your Blindspots & Discover Breakthroughs with Marty Dubin
Marty Dubin, a clinical psychologist and author of Blindspotting: How to See What's Holding You Back as a Leader, joins us to explore six leadership blind spots that may be affecting your work: identity, intellect, emotion, motive, traits, and behavior. These areas offer L&D professionals a framework for strengthening self-awareness and managing the many roles they take on. Marty explains the "why" behind analyzing blind spots, shares actionable steps for adopting new behaviors, and provides strategies to prevent strengths ("gifts") from becoming weaknesses ("gaps"). Drawing on his experience as both entrepreneur and business coach, Marty also discusses the value of emotional agility, the four types of intelligence, and how to align your identity with your role—even amid rapid change. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-dubin/ Website: https://www.martindubin.com/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRZFK8J6?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true

Aug 27, 2025 • 43min
Age Bias is a Crisis. Let's Solve It with Tonya Wilson
When it comes to tackling the bias around age, is the juice worth the squeeze? Our guest, Tonya Wilson, says absolutely. Tonya, organizational strategist and founder of AFC Consulting Group, joins the podcast to discuss the hidden costs of age discrimination—an issue that drains more than $850 billion from the U.S. economy each year. Tonya debunks myths about older generations, reframes age bias as a change management challenge, and offers suggestions for creating systems that provide growth opportunities for all employers. Building an ageless workplace begins with auditing processes that may favor younger employees—whether in job descriptions, promotion practices, or workplace culture. From fostering psychological safety to implementing reverse mentorships, Tonya shares research-backed insights on training older generations and reveals how to develop agility as a mindset first. Reources: Website: https://www.afcconsultinggroup.com/ Blog: https://www.td.org/content/atd-blog/designing-ageless-workplaces-a-strategic-imperative-for-the-future TD article: https://www.td.org/content/td-magazine/the-future-of-work-is-ageless Resource Package: https://resources.afcconsultinggroup.com/unmaskingageism ATD25 Education Session: https://www.td.org/content/conference-recording/unmasking-ageism-raising-awareness-and-shaping-inclusive-talent-development

Aug 13, 2025 • 39min
Can AI Help L&D Bridge the Skills Gap? with Ryan Lufkin
Ryan Lufkin, Vice President of Global Academic Strategy at Instructure, joins the podcast to cut through the noise around AI-enabled skill building and explore how this technology can truly support a thriving learning culture. AI is an accelerator, a disruptor, and a powerful tool—but it's not replacing educators any time soon. Ryan shares how AI can work hand-in-hand with human oversight, expand accessibility, and take tedious tasks off your plate. He also offers practical, budget-friendly tools that L&D teams can put to work today. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanlufkin/ Website: https://www.instructure.com/

Jul 31, 2025 • 35min
Power, Pressure, Performance: A Manager's Balancing Act with Sabina Nawaz
Sabina Nawaz is a global CEO coach, leadership keynote speaker, author, and advisor to C-level executives in Fortune 500 corporations, government agencies, non-profits, and academic institutions. She joins the podcast to discuss themes of leadership from her book, You're the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need). As leaders navigate expanding power, increasing pressure to perform, and the impact of their decisions, Sabina offers tools to help mitigate the tension that builds. Whether you're a first-time manager or a seasoned leader, this episode will help you avoid the common pitfalls that can turn even your superpowers into setbacks. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabinanawaz/ Website: https://sabinanawaz.com/ Book: https://sabinanawaz.com/book/

Jul 16, 2025 • 28min
How to Get Noticed Without Self-Promotion with Connie Malamed
Connie Malamed, an author and learning design consultant, discusses how learning professionals can gain visibility without self-promotion. She highlights the importance of contributing meaningfully to foster credibility and combat feelings of invisibility. Connie offers practical strategies like 30-day visibility experiments and emphasizes viewing visibility as a service to others. With insights on building community support and overcoming imposter syndrome, she encourages listeners to embrace small actions to enhance their presence in the learning and development field.

Jun 25, 2025 • 41min
The Problem with Bloom's Taxonomy, and What To Use Instead with Jonathan Halls
In this engaging discussion, Jonathan Halls, an expert in talent development and learning science, critiques the well-known Bloom’s Taxonomy, highlighting its outdated application in modern learning environments. He argues that this framework can hinder effective learning rather than facilitate it. Halls proposes a fresh approach to writing learning objectives focused on clear actions, conditions, and standards. He also reflects on his unconventional journey into training, emphasizing the importance of adapting educational strategies to meet contemporary needs.

Jun 11, 2025 • 40min
Beyond Stereotypes: Gen Z in the Workforce with Chelsea C. Williams
Chelsea C. Williams, Founder & CEO of Reimagine Talent, is an expert on intergenerational talent strategies and the Gen Z workforce. In this episode, Chelsea debunks myths about Gen Z and shares lessons we can learn from the youngest working demographic. She breaks down what research reveals Gen Z truly values—from transparency and purpose to wellbeing and career development—and reveals the stereotypes that ofen misguide managers. Discover what resonates with young professionals and how leaders can evolve to better engage, retain, and empower early talent in today's dynamic, diverse workplace. Resources: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelseacwilliams/ Website: https://chelseacwilliams.com/ Reimagine Talent: https://www.reimaginetalentco.com/ Forbe's Content: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbeshumanresourcescouncil/people/chelseacwilliams/


