Finding the Throughline with Kate Hanley

n this episode I'm talking with Antonia Angress, author of “Sirens & Muses” and a 2024 NEA Creative Writing Fellow about the squishier side of creativity–the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes that affect your work, even if you're not fully conscious of it.(Note–this episode is a replay. We’ll be back to new episodes next week, yay!)- The part of the writing process that Antonia relishes- The specific point in the book-writing process where Antonia focuses on making her sentences pretty- How she only kept “a few paragraphs” from the first draft of her second novel (!!)- Adapting to the public speaking portion of being a writer- The thing her graduate school professor told her when she was halfway through writing her first novel and having a crisis of confidence- The two things that can happen after her inner critic has told her the stuff she’s writing is no good- How she views her first novel, looking back- The “toxic narrative” about how you have to suffer for your art- Continually working to be OK with resting (especially as an about-to-be mother)- Antonia’s plug for therapyFor full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week I am talking to writer Antonia Angress. Antonia is the author of "Sirens & Muses," which starts off as a campus novel set at a New England art school, but then blooms into an exploration of the intersection of home and belonging versus individualism and seeking to stand out, set in the New York City art scene during the Occupy Wall Street era."Sirens & Muses" was named one of the best books of the year by Glamour Magazine and won the Minnesota Book Award, and Antonia was recently named one of the NEA's 2024 Creative Writing Fellows. I loved the book and I love that I get to ask Antonia my list of mildly invasive questions about why and how she does her particular creative work.(Note–this episode is a replay. We’ll be back to new episodes next week, yay!)We covered:- The advice she gives about the stuff you write that you end up deleting- The fact that publishing a book “really doesn’t change your life”- The importance of that feeling of being alone with your work- The daily writing goal that keeps Antonia going (spoiler: it’s very small)- How she manages her ‘internet junk food’ diet- The practice that gets her ready to write- What motivational phrase is on the Post-It note above her computerFor full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this final part of my interview with Palestinian-American, award-nominated memoirist, Nada Samih-Rotondo, we covered:- A preview of her second memoir, which has a central theme of earthquakes, both the geological variety and the personal kind (it sounds amazing I cannot wait)- The allure of folk tales and fairy tales- The joy of going down a research wormhole- Nada’s current obsessions–turtle migration, and early African-American history in Rhode Island- Getting over the very human desire for external validation- Nada’s beautiful vision of a free Palestine- The YA novels Nada can’t put down- Oat milk matcha lattes (and why Nada hope they give her a green mustache at the coffeeshop)- The perfection of a Sunday morning and navigating the kitchen when you’re the only parent home- Nada’s favorite Palestinian dish (come to full show notes on Substack for a link)For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode I'm talking with Nada about what I call inner stuff, the thoughts, ideas, and attitudes that affect your work, even if you're not fully conscious of it, including:- How her least favorite part of writing (sharing her work) becoming her most favorite part- The type of reader feedback that fills her heart and lights her up and fuels her to create- Feeling out of step with the world–and being OK with that- Being the only Arab kid around in the 90s- Nada’s plea–that we wake up from the collective illusion of separateness- Finding points of connection, particularly with people you disagree with- Astrology talk! (She’s an Aries sun with a Pisces moon–equal parts ready to charge into a fight and to contemplate quantum physics.)For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest this week is Nada Samih-Rotondo, a multi-genre Palestinian-American writer, teacher, and mother, who recently published her first book, a memoir called All Water Has Perfect Memory, which has been shortlisted for the 2024 William Saroyan International Prize for Writing.Born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents, Nada immigrated to the U.S. at the age of six to Rhode Island. Her work has been published in the The Master's Review, Squat! Birth Journal, and Gulfstream Literary Magazine.We talk about:- How Nada started writing her novel during the pandemic while teaching from home and homeschooling three kids- Developing patience with the publishing process- Reading as a vital part of feeding your creativity- Writing in coffee shops (especially when you have kids)Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Warning–there’s at least one swear word in today’s episode and it’s coming up quick. If you’re listening with sensitive ears--either yours or someone else’s--within earshot, this is your heads up.My guest this week is award-winning journalist and author, Paulette Perhach. Paulette has written two essays that have gone viral, including “A Story of a Fuck Off Fund,” which was included in the anthology Freshman Year of Life.Paulette is also the author of the book “Welcome to the Writer’s Life,” host of a virtual writing salon that’s called A Very Important Meeting, and a one-on-one writing coach.We talked about:- Her semi-famous roommate in NYC (where she moved two months ago)- Why people who are making their way outside the corporate world are her heroes- Why she’s planning to quit ghostwriting and make all her money from her own writing and programs- The gift she received from a client that has her rethinking her revenue streams- Dealing with the loss that can accompany transformation- How practical jokes relate to her desire to earn more money- The series she’s re-watching- The best sound in the worldConnect with Paulette at pauletteperhach.com or on Instagram @paulettejperhach.For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest this week is award-winning journalist and author of the book “Welcome to the Writer’s Life,” Paulette Perhach. Paulett’s work has appeared in The New York Times, Elle, and Slate, among many other places. She also hosts a virtual writing salon called A Very Important Meeting, teaches many online writing classes, and works with folks one-on-one as a writing coach.We talked about:- How being a Peace Corps volunteer is like being the village idiot, and why that’s a good thing- Acclimating yourself to the vulnerability of writing (sometimes very) personal stories- Thinking about the long tail of having your work findable on the Internet and the possible ramifications of that- The link between ADHD and financial (mis)management- Getting over the idea that if you don’t have a degree in English literature, you’re not qualified to be a writer- Getting more stuff done when you approach your work with self-love rather than self-flagellation- The website that’s like eBay for businesses that reminds her life could still go in a lot of different directions- Why she thinks the shows Californication and Sex and the City are harmful to wannabe writers- The wild story of how she figured out she had ADHD, and how that diagnosis has changed her reality- Her class for writers with ADHDConnect with Paulette at pauletteperhach.com or on Instagram @paulettejperhach.For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

My guest this week is award-winning journalist and author, Paulette Perhach. Paulett’s work has appeared in The New York Times, Elle, and Slate, among other places, and she’s written two essays that have gone viral, including “A Story of a Fuck-Off Fund,” which was included in the anthology Freshman Year of Life.Paulette helps others make their way as writers, with her book about writing, called Welcome to the Writer’s Life; her five-time-a-week virtual writing salon that’s called A Very Important Meeting; various online writing classes; and as a one-on-one writing coach.Fun fact, Paulette keeps a running list of her rejections NOT receive her MFA from Iowa, Columbia or Syracuse.We covered:- Balancing being a writing teacher and coach with also being a working writer- The writer’s software she created as a direct response to having ADHD- How joining the Peace Corps shaped her as a writer- Continuing to dream bigger- What it’s like to have an essay go viral- The software she developed to help writers get organized- Her tips and tricks for making sure you do your writing–and more importantly, finish your writing- How she outsmarts her fear- The importance of tracking your writing metrics- The trick to setting deadlines for yourself that you’ll actually honor- Why Paulette might be the next Weird Al- The writer’s conference Paulette never misses (I had never heard of it! Meet you there?)- A rundown of all the writing tools she uses, from software to notebooksConnect with Paulette at pauletteperhach.com or on Instagram @paulettejperhach.For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the final installment of my talk with historian Kenneth C. Davis, New York Times bestselling author of “America’s Hidden History,” “Don’t Know Much About History,” a whole series of “Don’t Know Much About” books. As part of his mission to get more people to read more books, Kenneth has just published THE WORLD IN BOOKS: 52 Works of Great Short Nonfiction – a curated journey through fifty-two of the most significant short nonfiction works ever penned, from ancient times to the present day.We talked about:- What determines whether Ken has had a good day or a bad day- Learning Italian with his wife, and the many, many doors it has opened in their lives- The well-known historical author who taught Ken that history is about humanity, and not just dates and battles- Why Italy plays such a big role in his plans for the future- The HBO series he and his wife can’t stop binge watching- Ken’s recipe for the perfect cup of coffee (Italian roast, of course)Connect with Ken at https://dontknowmuch.com/.For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to part 2 of my interview with Kenneth C. Davis, author of the brand new book THE WORLD IN BOOKS: 52 Works of Great Short Nonfiction – a curated journey through fifty-two of the most significant short nonfiction works ever penned, from ancient times to the present day.Kenneth is also the author of Don’t Know Much About® History, which spent 35 consecutive weeks on The New York Times bestseller list, and gave rise to the Don’t Know Much About® series of books and audios, which has a combined in-print total of some 4.7-million copies.We covered:- How the editing process reminds him of the myth of Sisyphus- Why his inner critic sounds a lot like Joseph Conrad and E.B. White- A chills-inducing pep talk for reading- The harm caused by the idea of American exceptionalism- Re-examining American’s history through a lens of equity- Comparing our current political climate to 1968 and drawing parallelsConnect with Ken at https://dontknowmuch.com/.For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.Thank you for listening!And thanks to this week’s sponsor, Air Doctor Pro. Visit airdoctorpro.com and use code KATE to save 30% off an amazing indoor air filter *and* receive a free three-year warranty (an $84 value). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices