

Yellow Chair Collective: The Podcast
Yellow Chair Collective
The Yellow Chair Collective Podcast explores identity, intersectionality, and mental health. Hosted by Soo Jin Lee and Linda Yoon, co-directors of Yellow Chair Collective—a group private practice offering culturally responsive mental health services—this season highlights the unique challenges and resilience of eldest daughters. Join us for conversations that uncover the intersections of culture, family, and personal growth.
Episodes
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Feb 17, 2024 • 1h 1min
Healing Postpartum: Crafting Supportive Spaces for Moms with Art Therapy | Ruth Sze, MFT
In this conversation, Helen interviews Ruth Sze, an art therapist and marriage and family therapist, about her work with postpartum moms. Ruth shares her personal journey of becoming a mom and going back to school to pursue her passion for art therapy.
Takeaways
Art therapy can be a powerful tool for expressing subconscious needs and emotions.
The postpartum period can be a time of joy, but also loneliness, grief, and guilt.
Creating a safe space for moms to share their experiences and process their emotions is crucial.
Mindfulness and self-compassion are important for healing intergenerational trauma and building resilience. Mom guilt can be a significant barrier to self-care and personal fulfillment.
It is important for moms to challenge societal expectations and define their own version of a good mom.
Finding time for self-care requires intentional time blocking and prioritization.
Art therapy can support mindfulness, emotional expression, and reflection in the journey of self-discovery and understanding.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction of Ruth and Her Work
03:18 Focus on Postpartum Population
06:25 Ruth's Journey to Grad School
11:40 Ruth's Experience as a New Mom in Grad School
17:38 Structure of the Postpartum Mom Group
22:40 Healing Intergenerational Trauma
29:33 Mindfulness and Self-Compassion
36:33 Struggles with Having Fun
37:40 The Impact of Mom Guilt
39:39 Exploring the Idea of a Good Mom
41:01 Navigating Guilt and Shame
42:32 Finding Time for Self-Care
43:29 Overcoming the 'I Don't Know What to Do' Barrier
46:39 Incorporating Art Therapy into the Practice
51:05 The Experience of Being a Third Culture Kid
57:38 Using Art as a Form of Expression and Understanding

Feb 9, 2024 • 1h 2min
The Consequence of Our Self-Judgement & Culturally Humble Approaches to Therapy, Nadia Islam LCSW
In this conversation, Nadia Islam, a licensed clinical supervisor at Yellow Chair Collective, discusses the importance of evidence-based and culturally humble approaches in therapy. She discusses the importance of accepting reality and moving towards one's values, as well as the power of voice and the impact of self-judgment.
Takeaways
Evidence-based therapy involves using strategies that have been proven to lead to significant improvement in clients' symptoms or conditions.
Cultural humility recognizes the limitations of research and aims to create a collaborative space that respects diverse populations.
Client advocacy and empowerment are important in therapy, allowing clients to drive the conversation and make decisions about their own lives.
The therapist's role is to guide the conversation, using active and directive approaches when necessary.
Understanding and defining the client's problem is a crucial step in therapy.
Maslow's hierarchy of needs is a complex framework that may not fully capture the overlapping phases of personal growth and community focus.
Personal background and cultural influences shape a therapist's approach to therapy.
Transitioning to therapy and facing challenges can be a transformative experience for both the therapist and the client.
Becoming a licensed therapist requires dedication and perseverance. Accepting reality and moving towards one's values can bring meaning and fulfillment.
Unconditional love in adult relationships may not be realistic or fair, as reciprocity and equality are important.
Self-judgment can hinder personal growth and happiness, while curiosity can lead to greater understanding and acceptance.
Focusing on the dynamics of relationships and the qualities of the connection can be more important than finding the 'right' person.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:06 Evidence-Based Practice & Cultural Humility
03:00 The Importance of Client Advocacy
06:00 The Therapist's Role in Guiding Conversations
08:17 Balancing Active and Directive Approaches
11:30 Helping Clients Identify and Define Problems
13:59 Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
16:09 Indigenous Framework and Overlapping Phases
18:07 Personal Background & Cultural Influences
22:14 Navigating Challenging Situations and Making Decisions
26:37 Experiences in New York City and California
30:17 Transitioning to Therapy, Facing Challenges
35:26 Nadia's Journey to Becoming a Licensed Therapist
36:05 Pursuing International Social Work
36:31 Working in Sri Lanka
37:41 Challenges and Failures
40:52 Dealing with Disappointment
41:41 Values and Acceptance
42:48 The Power of Voice
43:45 Defining Values
46:15 Dealing with Uncertainty
47:10 Self-Judgment and Curiosity
49:11 The Belief of Unlovability
51:37 Unconditional Love in Adult Relationships
54:46 Letting Go of Expectations
57:09 Focusing on the Relationship
58:35 Lessons from Intimate Partner Violence
01:00:08 Identifying What You Want
01:01:15 The Dance of Relationships

Feb 3, 2024 • 1h 2min
STOP Abandoning Yourself and Start Setting Boundaries | Razdeep Kaur, MSW
Razdeep Kaur, MSW discusses radical honesty, self-reflection, and personal growth. Topics include embracing rawness, consciousness shaping reality, breaking free from societal molds, setting boundaries, and recognizing personal needs for self-care. Integrity and authenticity are essential for personal growth and decision-making.

Jan 26, 2024 • 1h
Why Trauma healing for Asian American communities is possible | Discussion with Soo Jin Lee & Linda Yoon
Helen is joined by the Co-Directors of Yellow Chair Collective: Soo Jin Lee and Linda Yoon. In this episode, Soo Jin and Linda celebrate the launch of their book "Where I Belong" by vulnerably discussing the changing perceptions of Korean culture and Asian representation due to media and internet access, as well as the presence of mental health representation in Korean dramas.
Takeaways:
Creation of support groups and workshops during the COVID-19 pandemic
Journey of the book "Where I Belong"
Response to the rise of hatred and violence in the Asian community
Providing a tool for connection and support
Personal experiences shared by the authors
Struggles with identity and trauma healing
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction
03:23 Who are Linda, Soo Jin, and Helen?
08:39 Creating community spaces, support groups, and workshops.
13:36 Struggle with identity and belonging in America.
15:16 Healing trauma, understanding personal experiences and perspective.
19:19 Struggling with English, parents upset about performance.
22:01 Asian American identity, stereotypes, standards, and deeper understanding.
25:56 Reflecting on life, family, work, and change.
31:34 Negative perception of therapy led to action.
34:18 Asian upbringing creates defensive walls, fosters vulnerability.
38:07 Reflecting on history, grief, celebration, and preservation.
40:12 Reclaiming identity through joy and empowerment journey.
44:53 Uncertain future for next generation, hopeful diversity.
50:47 Breaking the stigma of mental health barriers.
54:28 Celebration through food

Jan 19, 2024 • 50min
How to Heal After Burnout with Esther Lee, MSW
Esther Lee is a therapist and advocate for social justice. She highlights the complexity of people's stories and the need to challenge assumptions and stereotypes.
Takeaways
Continuous education is essential for personal and professional growth.
Challenging assumptions and stereotypes is crucial in understanding people's stories.
Self-care and resilience are important for preventing burnout.
Somatic work and labeling emotions can lead to a deeper understanding of oneself and others. Intentions play a crucial role in shaping outcomes and experiences.
Setting intentions is essential for cultivating healthy relationships.
Defining personal values and living them out is key to setting intentions.
Accountability and grace are important in the process of setting and achieving intentions.
Surrendering and starting with oneself is a powerful approach to personal growth and relationship-building.
Observing the future can inform present actions and intentions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Story
01:20 Continuous Education and Learning
03:26 The Complexity of People's Stories
04:18 Finding Joy in Small Spaces
05:26 Staying Humble and Curious
06:54 Challenging Assumptions and Stereotypes
08:53 Surprising Moments of Humility
10:09 Transitioning from Legal Work to Therapy
11:45 Realizing the Limitations of Advocacy
13:06 Experiencing Burnout and Crisis
16:23 Transitioning to Therapy and Somatic Work
20:15 Recovering from Crisis and Building Resilience
27:27 Understanding Somatic Work and Labeling Emotions
32:19 Deepening Relationships and Self-Understanding
35:53 Exploring Herbalism and Energy in Healing
37:11 The Role of Intentions
38:19 Intentions in Relationships
39:35 Setting Intentions for Healthy Relationships
41:38 Setting Intentions in Romantic Partnerships
42:09 Starting with Values
43:17 Living Out Values
44:36 Personal Values: Reverence and Release
46:11 Accountability and Grace
49:02 Surrendering and Starting with Yourself
50:08 Observing the Future

Jan 15, 2024 • 39min
Healthy Masculinity, Overcoming Burnout, Finding True Love | Brandon Shindo, LCSW
In this conversation, Brandon Shindo, CEO of @kandbtherapy shares his personal and professional growth journey. He discusses overcoming burnout, finding balance, and the necessary steps he took to achieve a thriving private practice and a healthy relationship. Brandon reflects on the influence of his Japanese American heritage and the lessons he learned from his elders. He also explores the concept of healthy masculinity and the importance of listening and understanding in relationships. Brandon offers advice on navigating difficult relationships and finding love after experiencing setbacks. In this conversation, Brandon reflects on the lessons he learned from his grandmother and how her death impacted his life.
Takeaways
Overcoming burnout and finding balance is essential for personal and professional growth.
Seeking help and being vulnerable are crucial steps in achieving a healthy work-life balance.
Cultural influences shape our work ethic and understanding of masculinity.
Finding peace and safety in relationships requires active listening and understanding.
Lessons from difficult relationships can lead to personal growth and the ability to find healthy love.
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction and Favorite Movie
00:42 Personal and Professional Growth
02:21 Overcoming Burnout and Finding Balance
03:23 Lessons from Early Career
04:22 Seeking Help and Vulnerability
05:51 Shifting Priorities and Finding Balance
06:54 Lessons from Elders and Changing Mindset
08:48 Taking Care of Family and Reprioritizing
09:48 Appreciating Life and Embracing Vulnerability
11:06 Cultural Influence on Work Ethic
12:35 Lessons from Japanese American Heritage
16:06 Lessons from Japanese Elders
17:06 Balancing Masculine and Feminine Traits
19:23 Defining Healthy Masculinity
21:30 Finding Peace and Safety in Relationships
23:33 Lessons from Manipulative Relationships
26:02 Navigating Healthy Relationships
28:44 Generosity and Kindness in Relationships
31:43 Finding Love After Difficult Relationships
34:56 Lessons from Adversity
36:17 Lessons from Brandon's Grandma
37:10 Maladaptive Coping

Dec 29, 2023 • 31min
Facing Unrealistic Beauty Standards and Colonial Messaging about Body Image with Megan Soun, MSW
In this episode, Helen and Megan discuss the messaging around body image and the impact of beauty standards on individuals, particularly those who are considered 'other' in society. They explore the intersection of beauty standards and racism, as well as the importance of questioning and unlearning these standards. Megan emphasizes the need to view the body as a relationship and to approach body change with intention and curiosity. They also discuss the role of yoga in honoring the body and cultivating a positive relationship with it. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of challenging societal norms and embracing self-acceptance.
Takeaways
- Question & challenge beauty standards - the body messaging
- View the body as a relationship and cultivate a connection with it
- Approach body change with curiosity, ie motivations behind it
- Practice self-acceptance to foster a healthier body image
LINKS
- Events YCC: https://yellowchaircollective.com/ycc-events/
- Sign-Up for a Support Group: https://yellowchaircollective.com/support-group/
- Listen to Episode #36 About Perfectionism & Body w/ Megan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4JgrdwbGW9eIkxcn69McEH
Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
00:59 The Messaging Around Body Image
02:55 The Intersection of Beauty Standards and Racism
04:29 The Impact of Otherness on Body Image
06:07 The Eurocentric Beauty Standards
07:54 Unlearning and Taking Action
09:04 Questioning Beauty Standards
11:09 Viewing the Body as a Relationship
13:18 The Third Door: Acceptance and Action
16:09 Motivations for Body Change
18:06 The Cult of Productivity and Unhealthy Disciplines
19:35 Rigidity and Tying Self-Worth to Rules
22:05 Approaching Clients and Loved Ones with Body Dysmorphia
25:31 Practicing Yoga as Body Connection
26:01 Honoring the Body through Yoga
29:17 Cultivating a Relationship with the Body
29:59 Closing Thoughts and Takeaways

Dec 29, 2023 • 58sec
Moment 7 - Carrie Zhang, Founder of Asian Mental Health Project, "We Need Other People"
On this clip of Yellow Chair Collective: The Podcast, we are joined by guest Carrie Zhang, founder of Asian Mental Health Project.Carrie shares her journey of self-discovery and the importance of incorporating self-care practices not selfish but an act of self-preservation and community welfare
Link to watch more: From Loneliness to Connection: Carrie Zheng's Journey to Creating the Asian Mental Health Project

Dec 29, 2023 • 4min
Moment 6 - Jonathan Fong Ly, What is the Benefit of Meditation?
On this 5-Minute Moment, Helen sits down with meditation practitioner and teacher, Jonathan Fong Ly to explore the mythos and pressure around meditation and emphasize that it can be as simple as closing your eyes and sitting down. This clip also delves into different types of meditation, the importance of gratitude and awareness, and the cognitive triangle.

Dec 29, 2023 • 3min
Moment 5 - Iris Chen, Writer & Parenting Coach - How to Validate & Understand Your Child's Emotions
A clip from our podcast episode with writer and founder of Untigering, Iris Chen. Iris shares a powerful story about her child biting other children at preschool, she emphasizes how validating her child's emotions and understanding their needs led to pro-social strategies to navigate stress and anxiety. She reminds us that behaviors are signals of underlying needs, and by meeting those needs, the behaviors tend to resolve themselves.
Watch full episode here: https://youtu.be/QZ-D6wgV67o
Follow Iris Chen
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/untigering/?hl=en
Blog: https://untigering.com/
Buy Untigering Book: https://untigering.com/untigering-peaceful-parenting-for-the-deconstructing-tiger-parent/
Connect with Iris: https://msha.ke/untigering
Follow Yellow Chair:
Links to all: https://yellowchaircollective.carrd.co/