

Cloud Realities
Capgemini
Exploring the practical and exciting alternate realities that can be unleashed through cloud driven transformation and cloud native living and working.
Each episode, our hosts Dave, Esmee & Rob talk to Cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures and how does human experience factor into all of this?
They cover Intelligent Industry, Customer Experience, Sustainability, AI, Data and Insight, Cyber, Cost, Leadership, Talent and, of course, Tech.
Together, Dave, Esmee & Rob have over 80 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week.
Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/
Email - Podcasts.cor@capgemini.com
Each episode, our hosts Dave, Esmee & Rob talk to Cloud leaders and practitioners to understand how previously untapped business value can be released, how to deal with the challenges and risks that come with bold ventures and how does human experience factor into all of this?
They cover Intelligent Industry, Customer Experience, Sustainability, AI, Data and Insight, Cyber, Cost, Leadership, Talent and, of course, Tech.
Together, Dave, Esmee & Rob have over 80 years of cloud and transformation experience and act as our guides though a new reality each week.
Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/
Email - Podcasts.cor@capgemini.com
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Dec 1, 2023 • 59min
CRLIVE20: AWS re:Invent 2023: Guardians and future of trusted cloud with Max Peterson and Gary Meshell, AWS & Anne Saunders, Capgemini
We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.In this weeks second double feature, we are looking at Sovereignty & Cyber, we focus on how AWS Cloud is responding to two of the biggest challenges today. Dave, Sjoukje and Rob dig into this in two separate sessions with:Max Peterson, VP sovereign cloud, AWS about the importance of recognising sovereignty, how AWS frame the requirement and the response.Gary Meshell, MD Global GSI cybersecurity program & Anne Saunders, Global Cybersecurity Director, Capgemini about the growing threat and sophistication of Cyber in an evermore complex world.GuestsMax Peterson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxrpeterson/Gary Meshell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garymeshell/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 30, 2023 • 39min
CRLIVE19: AWS re:Invent 2023: A conversation with Jeff Barr, Chief Evangelist, AWS
We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Jeff Barr, VP & Chief Evangelist, AWS, about his early days at AWS, the evolution of re:Invent itself, the three major compute paradigms over the last 60 years, how Cloud and AI fit into that and how to equip the next generation. We also hear about Jeff's family all being at re:Invent for the first time together this year. GuestJeff Barr: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbarr/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 30, 2023 • 49min
CRLIVE18: AWS re:Invent 2023: Industry Cloud perspectives - Automotive & Financial Services with Keith Mulder, AWS and Melissa Dougherty, AWS
We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.In this double feature looking at 'Industry Cloud', we focus on the impact of the Cloud in two sectors. Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to: Keith Mulder, Partner Strategy Leader, AWS Automotive & Manufacturing, about disruption in the Automotive sector, including connected car, the energy transition and changing customer expectations and buying habits.Melissa Dougherty, Director Partner Success for Global Financial Services, AWS about disruption in the Financial Services sector, including state of legacy and legacy modernisation.Finally, we get an update on Robs search for a mouse and have some alarming news about the Cloud Realities monkey!GuestsKeith Mulder: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-mulder-8a0b204/Melissa Dougherty: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissaadougherty/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 29, 2023 • 31min
CRLIVE17: AWS re:Invent 2023: Leading AWS in EMEA with Tanuja Randery, AWS
We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Tanuja Randery, VP EMEA, AWS, about the opportunities and challenges in leading across such a diverse region, her top 3 themes across EMEA from her many discussions with organisations, her passion for promoting women in leadership and tech, GenAI adoption at scale and Cirque du Soleil! GuestTanuja Randery: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanuja-randery/ HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 28, 2023 • 29min
CRLIVE16: AWS re:Invent23: Creating Impact with AWS GSI Solutions Architecture, Rohan Karmarkar, AWS
We are live from AWS re:Invent 2023 in Las Vegas, direct from the Expo floor, with a limited series of episodes talking to AWS leaders on themes of the conference, as well as filling in on all of the news and gossip.Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Rohan Karmarkar, Director GSI Solutions Architecture, AWS, about two immediate themes of the conference (1) modernise to both go faster and save money (2) Amazon Q. We talk about how these innovations impact the Customer conversation with AWS, a good customer example and catch up on what else has been announced at the show. Finally, we have a chat about our preferred steaks and answer the most important question... sauce or no sauce? GuestRohan Karmarkar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohankarmarkar/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 23, 2023 • 55min
CR044: Making sense of complexity pt.2 with Rob England and Cherry Vu, Teal Unicorn
The Cynefin Framework sets out different lenses through which circumstances can be made sense of, from 'clear' through to 'chaos'! As we have covered on previous episodes of the show (CR020 & CR003), it is very useful for helping frame and understand the shift to “digital”.This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Rob England and Cherry Vu, who are Teal Unicorn and explore new ways of management, about the relevance of the Cynefin Framework in their work with organisations, the builds Rob and Cherry have made on it (with Dave Snowden!), and what results they have seen. We also talk about ways to drive additional value from the Cloud.TLDR:01:00 Anti-Compentative UK probe into Cloud Service Providers 04:40 Cloud conversation with Rob England and Cherry Vu44:13 Three actions to unlock greater Cloud Value51:50 Celebrating Robs 21st birthday and a Corporate Rebels write up! Further ReadingTeal Unicorn books: https://tealunicorn.com/books/Cynefin Framework: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cynefin-Weaving-Sense-Making-Fabric-World/dp/1735379905/ref=asc_df_1735379905/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=463023885319&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1138553241603419895&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9180995&hvtargid=pla-1000081345849&psc=1&mcid=d8fac6716c5d3c1f88cb07d2dcb423a3&th=1&psc=1 GuestRob England: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robenglandattwohills/Cherry Vu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drcherryvu/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 16, 2023 • 45min
CR043: How technology democratisation drives innovation with Nabil Bukhari, Extreme Networks
Technology democratisation is the process of reorienting technology tools to require less specialized knowledge to use and drive value. This can happen at organisational or societal level, and lead to more rapid application and radically increased innovation.This week, Dave, Sjoukje, and Rob talk to Nabil Bukhari, CTO and CPO at Extreme Networks, about how he became so inspired by tech democratisation, why it is important for society to have equal access to tech and what the implications and advantages are for your organisation. Finally, we talk about successful innovation tactics for leaders. TLDR:01:13 Next gen smart glasses 02:30 Cloud conversation with Nabil Bukhari33:35 8 tactics for leaders to successfully innovate42:22 Talk at a CIO conf in the Valley! GuestNabil Bukhari: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nabil-bukhari-cto/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 9, 2023 • 50min
CR042: The age of living machines with Susan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT
In a first technology convergence, physics came together with engineering to produce an array of astonishing new technologies: radios, telephones, televisions, aircraft, radar, nuclear power, computers, the Internet and a host of still evolving digital tools. Today we are on the cusp of a new convergence...This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Susan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT about how biology is now coming together with engineering to create a wave of next generation technologies. They talk about the evolution of this new technology, exciting initial use cases and the challenges of industrialising these new machines. We also talk about how LLM's might also learn the language of biology and drive further breakthroughs. TLDR:01:47 Will virtual realities ever really be a reality? 05:29 Cloud conversation with Susan Hockfield 44:30 Biology and LLM's48:28 MIT Energy Initiative external advisor conference! Further readingThe Age of Living Machines: How Biology Will Build the Next Technology Revolution: https://www.amazon.nl/-/en/Susan-Hockfield/dp/0393634744GuestSusan Hockfield, President Emerita, MIT: https://www.mitcnc.org/susanhockfield/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 6, 2023 • 48min
CRLIVE15: Microsoft Envision London: Unlock the potential of AI at scale with John Cairney, Scottish Water and Giles Walker, Microsoft & Steven Webb, Capgemini
GenAI use cases emerge everyday, however they tend to be quite discreet currently, to unlock its potential at scale we are likely to see platforms and significant organisational change emerge at an unprecedented speed over the next year.In a special live episode from London at Microsoft Envision The Tour in October 2023, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to a panel led by John Cairney, Head of Digital Strategy and Architecture, Scottish Water with Giles Walker, CTO Retail and Consumer Packaged Goods, Microsoft and Steven Webb, CTIO UK, Capgemini about what good AI experimentation and use cases look like, what Scottish Water are doing to pilot GenAI at scale, in particular their experiences with Co-Pilot, along with what the scale organisational implications of GenAI might be and looking to the future, if and when AI transformation might ultimately tackle process centric enterprise apps such as ERP. TLDR:00:44 What Dave, Sjoukje & Rob did in London03:00 Cloud conversation with John Cairney, Giles Walker, and Steven Webb 46:50 OutroGuestsJohn Cairney: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johncairney/Giles Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giles-a-walker/Steven Webb: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenpwebb1/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

Nov 2, 2023 • 39min
CR041: Unleashing developer creativity with Ramiro Berrelleza, Okteto
Automation in software development is a way to minimise errors during the software development process, make it faster and more cost-efficient, and improve team collaboration and productivity. Highly effective development teams dedicate their best staff to this task, believing it will unlock new levels of developer productivity and creativity.This week, Dave, Sjoukje and Rob talk to Ramiro Berrelleza, Founder and CEO at Okteto, a company that modernises the development experience, about the core idea and founding of Okteto, why developer automation has high value attached to it, whether business leadership are engaging with it as route to value and, it wouldnt be a show without it, what disruption AI is already having on software development. TLDR:00:55 Is the lack of necessity the mother of invention?03:50 Cloud conversation with Ramiro Berrelleza31:15 How AI can transform software engineering37:00 The week to be over and Peruvian food! GuestRamiro Berrezella: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramiroberrelleza/HostsDave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/Sjoukje Zaal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoukjezaal/Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ProductionMarcel Van Der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-van-der-burg-99a655/Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/SoundBen Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/