

Sake On Air
Sake On Air
A bi-weekly podcast exploring the stories of sake. Brought to you by experts on the front lines of the industry in Japan.
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Oct 26, 2019 • 1h 15min
Know Your Hosts: Christopher Pellegrini & Sebastien Lemoine
Over the
past year of doing Sake On Air, believe it or not, one of the most highly
requested show topics that we get from our listeners has been for us to do a deep-dive
exploring the backgrounds and stories of your regular hosts here on the show.
Originally
a bit hesitant – the entire purpose of the show is to provide a voice to those
in and around the industry that are underrepresented – we realized that we’ve been
doing this for quite a while now without ever properly communicating to our
listeners exactly who is involved and their
motivations behind, not only Sake On Air, but their involvement in the world of
sake.
So with
that, we bring you Part 1 of our “Know Your Hosts” series. Each episode will
include in-depth interviews with two of your regular Sake On Air hosts. Over
four episodes to be released intermittently over the coming months, you’ll have
the chance to learn a bit more about the people that came together in order to
make Sake On Air possible.
For Part
1, we hear from the show’s shochu ambassador, Christopher
Pellegrini, as
well as our deep culture guru and resident Frenchman, Sebastien
Lemoine.
Now that
we’ve gone through the process of recording all of these, we’re actually really
excited to finally share the stories of the people behind the microphones with
all of our listeners. If you have any questions for this week’s hosts (and
interviewees!), feel free to reach out to us at questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or via the contact
page on our brand
new website.
If you
could take a moment to leave a review for us on Apple
Podcasts or your
favorite podcast streaming service, it really does wonders for helping us to
promote and grow the show.
Also be
sure to follow along with us on Instagram, Twiiter, and Facebook, and our YouTube
channel is finally
in motion as well.
Thanks for listening, and kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers
Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a
co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Oct 4, 2019 • 1h 11min
Guide to Japanese Drinks w/ Stephen Lyman
This week’s episode is especially timely, as Justin managed to
squeeze in an interview with Stephen
Lyaman to coincide with the launch of his brand new book, The
Complete Guide to Japanese Drinks, co-authored together with Chris
Bunting, author of Drinking Japan, which released
October 1st in the U.S. and is already largely available
internationally thanks to Tuttle
Publishing.
Those familiar with Stephen’s work may associate mostly with Japan’s
beloved indigenous spirit, shochu. Sake On Air’s shochu aficionado, Christopher
Pellegrini sat down for an extensive interview with Stephen back in Episode
14. Giving that show a listen first will be a great primer for this week’s
discussion.
This week’s show is a lot of fun because we delve into a great deal
more than just sake and shochu. A rarity for the show, Stephen’s new book gave
us a great opportunity to discuss Japanese wine, whiskey, beer, cocktails, and
how all of these things play into the greater landscape of ‘drinking in Japan.’
Stephen is currently on the road promoting his new book, so be sure to
listen in for upcoming tour dates, as well as follow him on Twitter and Instagram in order to
keep tabs on the Kyushu-based founder of Kampai.us
and East Coast instructor for the Sake
School of America Certified Shochu Advisor Course, and hopefully thank him
in-person for his great contribution with The
Complete Guide to Japanese Drinks.
We’d love your thoughts and feedback on this week’s episode. Let us
know what excites you about shochu at questions@sakeonair.staba.jp
You can always follow us on Instagram, Twiiter, and Facebook, and if you’re so
inclined, our YouTube
channel is finally just about up-to-date as well, for those that prefer
plenty of video-distractions just one click away.
Also, reviews
are great. If you have a moment, please do share a few kind words. It helps
the show like you wouldn’t believe.
Thanks for listening, and kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export
Japan and Potts.K
Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Sep 20, 2019 • 1h 2min
Brewing in Japan w/ Cody Brailsford
Cody Brailsford is a rather rare breed.
Now fuku-toji (assistant head
brewer) as of this recording, at Watanabe Sake Brewery, makers of Hourai brand
sake in the small countryside town of Hida
Furukawa in Gifu Prefecture, Cody has been toiling away in the brewery for well
over a decade.
As more sake breweries open across the
globe, and as breweries in Japan gradually open their doors (and minds) to the
prospect of greater diversity in the brewery, the number of non-Japanese people
working stints in Japanese sake breweries has grown significantly in recent
years.
However very few have dug in for the
long haul in the way that Cody has at Hourai. And his time and hard work have
clearly been recognized and appreciated, as he was just offered the position of
fuku-toji a matter of days before he sat down with us here at Sake On Air.
In addition to Cody’s “origin story”
and life as a brewer, we also discuss the challenges of taking a brewery from
hyper-local to international, the shift from brewing to communicating, the
transition from one toji guild to another, and much more.
Christopher Hughes and Justin
Potts are your navigators for this session.
Pour yourself a beverage (or several) and settle in for fascinating glimpse
into the world of sake brewing in Japan with a gentleman whose experience and
perspective are truly one-of-a-kind.
You can learn more about, as well as
follow the adventures of Cody and Hourai Sake at any of the outlets below.
Watanabe
Sake Brewery Official Website:
Cody on Instagram
Hourai on Instagram
Be sure to let us know what you think
by leaving us a review on Apple
Podcasts, or wherever you get your regular serving of Sake On Air.
You can follow the show on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter via @sakeonair. Feel free to reach out to us at questions@sakeonair.staba.jp as well.
Until next week – kampai!
Sake
On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake
& Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our
theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Sep 7, 2019 • 0sec
Zaku Interview w/ President Shinichiro Shimizu
This week’s episode is exactly what the title says: an interview with Shinichiro Shimizu, the president of Shimizu Seizaburo Shoten, better known as makers of the incredibly popular brand of sake, ZAKU.
Zaku has taken both Japan and the world by storm in recent years, being awarded top accolades in just about every sake competition under the sun, while simultaneously establishing itself as a staple on the drink menus of many casual dining izakaya, as well as appearing regularly on the drink menus of establishments committed to the super high-end of the spectrum. Continually permeating into more and more international markets, this humble brewery of Mie Prefecture is turning into a household name.
Chris and Justin wanted to know how Zaku got to where it was today and understand the ethos driving this brewery that is creating an outstanding place for itself in the sake world on it’s own terms.
You’ll notice immediately that this week’s episode is a bit different. This particular interview was conducted several months back entirely in Japanese. We’ve been sitting on this for a while because it takes a significant amount of resources to transform such content into something that will be useful to the majority of our listeners.
That being said, we think that content of this nature is terribly important. One of our primary goals here at Sake On Air is to help give a voice to the amazing people shaping the future of the sake industry. Arranging, conducting, dubbing and editing in the way that we have this week is one way to go about doing that.
Being an entirely auditory platform, the means through which we can make this sort of content available to our listeners is somewhat limited. We took a first crack at it this week. We know that it isn’t perfect, but we’re proud of it. We also know that we have plenty of room to improve.
Please do let us know what you thought of this week’s episode. Let us know if you enjoy and would like more of this type of content. Or, if you have other ideas or suggestions for how we might make this sort of content accessible to our listeners, please let us know.
While you’re at it, please do take a moment to review the show on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your regular dose of Sake On Air.
A huge ‘Thank You’ is in order. Mr. Shuso Imada, took on the gargantuan job of being the voice of this week’s interviewee, Mr. Shinichiro Shimizu. We sort of threw him right into the fire and he did a stellar job. Imada-san, arigato!
You can follow Shuso and the rest of the Sake On Air team’s adventures on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter via @sakeonair.
Be sure to send your questions and comments to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp
Thanks for tuning in.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Aug 23, 2019 • 0sec
Koji Basics
When you start talking sake (or shochu), you don’t get too far in before finding that you need to address koji. That’s what Justin, (big) Chris and Sebastien set out to do this week. As Japan’s magical mold, Aspergillus oryzae, begins to gain traction, not just throughout the world of brewing, but in the culinary realm and the larger movement reexamining the power of fermentation, the number of questions is rising right alongside the rising interest and excitement – and there’s a lot of be excited about.
What exactly is (and is not) koji? Where does it come from? What does it do? Why should you care? Should you be rethinking your skincare practices and integrating Amino Rice? Should you raise your awareness around kojic acid? We only scratch the surface as we ramble and meander a bit this week, but we’re currently arranging to bring some true specialists in the field into the studio so that we can really dig deep into the nitty-gritty. It just means that you have that much more Sake On Air to look forward to!
In the meantime, you can follow our adventures on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter via @sakeonair.
If would be so kind as to review the show on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your regular dose of Sake On Air, it would mean the world to us.
Questions and comments can be sent to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp
Thanks for tuning in.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Aug 8, 2019 • 0sec
Rice Types
This week John Gauntner takes over as master of ceremonies, as Rebekah Wilson-Lye, Chris Hughes and Justin Potts combine forces to help flesh out an all-important and ever-evolving element of sake that sits at the core of some of the most important conversations: rice types.
Aside from just the distinction between sake rice and standard rice varieties used in sake production, the team discusses influence on the beverage’s character and profile, regionality, agricultural challenges, issues of access and economics, current trends, and more.As with all of our episodes, we can’t cover everything in 60 minutes. Following the recording we discussed the possibility of putting together a number of different shows based on the relationship between rice and sake, from historical, to agri-specific, to entire shows examining single varietals. If there’s a specific topic that you’d be excited to hear us discuss, please let us know! You can send your ideas, feedback and words of encouragement to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp Follow along with our day-to-day shenanigans via @sakeonair on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. If you’d be so kind as to leave us a review along with a few kind words on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever it is you get your regular dose of Sake On Air, it would mean the world to us. We’ve got a handful of announcements coming very soon – stay tuned! As always, thanks for listening, and Kampai! Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter. Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Jul 24, 2019 • 0sec
Sake in Spain w/ Pablo Alomar Salvioni
The rise in sake’s presence at notable restaurants and gastronomic celebrations across the globe in recent years is in no small part due to the individuals that have taken it upon themselves to craft the physical bridges for transport while also blazing new trails in their home territory.
Albeit an entirely unintended development (story in the show!), an unexpected turn-of-events placed Pablo Alomar Salvioni on an untrodden trail which led him to becoming one of the pioneers of the sake movement in Spain, a country with a rich and respected food culture all it’s own, which has also developed as hotbed for pioneering culinary innovation.
Through S&A (Salvioni & Alomar), Pablo brings not only sake, but also an array of hand-picked, high-quality fermented food products (soy sauce, vinegars, etc.), tea, and glassware to some of Spain’s most exciting dining establishments. In bringing incredible product to Spain, working as both an educator and catalyst for the development of local sake culture, he has also been central in bringing some of the most exciting people from Japan’s culinary world together with Spanish food lovers.
This week, following a recent trip to Spain where she explored local wine together with Pablo and a handful of inspiring sake brewers, Rebekah slips into the conductor’s chair this week, joined by little Chris (Pellegrini!) and Sebastien, where they explore the possibilities and challenges involved in bridging borders through food and sake.
While we’ve introduced her here-and-there over the past couple of months, and she has had a bit of a presence on the show recently, this is the first episode where you’ll all truly get a taste of the incredible contribution that Rebekah is bringing to Sake On Air. Her articulate nature and vast knowledge base will further be on display as she beckons more exciting guests to the show in the coming months. Stay tuned!
Follow Pablo, Salvioni & Alomar, as well as his wine-centric business, Sourcing the Earth, at any or all of the sites below.
Salvioni & Alomar
https://www.salvioni-alomar.com/
Facebook
Instagram
Sourcing the Earth
https://www.sourcingtheearth.com/
Pablo on Social Media
Instagram
Facebook
Twitter
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Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions.
More sake and shochu madness in a couple of weeks.
Until then, kampai!
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Jul 13, 2019 • 0sec
Sake Glassware Creation w/ Wolfgang Angyal of Riedel Japan (Pt. 2)
As promised, the Sake On Air team’s exploration into the sake-specific Daiginjo and Junmai glassware developed by Riedel continues with an interactive tasting led by Riedel Japan President and CEO, Wolfgang Angyal.
Clocking in at roughly 90 minutes, this is by far the longest episode of Sake On Air to-date. Why? There turned out to be just too much great food for thought and insightful commentary sprinkled throughout the entire experience.
Our apologies in advance – we recognize that a strictly audio format is not the most ideal medium for communicating the nuances of tasting and the associated olfactory experiences. Our recommendation is to grab a bottle of sake for yourself and settle in to join us on what was really a fantastic tasting journey.
Just for reference, the tasting employed Riedel’s Daiginjo and Junmai glassware, along with for the sake of comparison, a very standard ochoko (albeit a bit on the small side), as well as a Riesling glass also developed by Riedel.
While not a prerequisite, we recommend listening to Episode 19, where Wolfgang gives an excellent detailed explanation of the glassware that we’re testing in this episode, as well as outlines the process that went into bringing them into fruition.
In the tasting room this week along with Wolfgang are Sake On Air hosts Sebastien Lemoine, Rebekah Wilson-Lye, Chris Hughes, Marie Nagata and Justin Potts.
Please do let us know what you think about this week’s episode (and the show in general!) by taking a moment to rate and leave us a review on your podcast platform-of-choice. We can’t express enough how much it helps the show.
You can send your questions to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, as well as follow us at @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook.
For those of you that prefer YouTube, check back again very soon!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with recording and editing by Frank Walter.
We’ll be back in two weeks.
Until then, kampai!
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Jul 8, 2019 • 0sec
Sake Glassware Creation w/ Wolfgang Angyal of Riedel Japan (Pt. 1)
The Sake On Air team recently gathered at the Japan offices of Riedel, renowned Austrian wine varietal-specific glassware makers, to meet with Japan’s President and CEO Wolfgang Angyal in order to learn about the nearly two-decade process that went into producing two pieces of highly influential, sake-specific glassware: the Daiginjo Glass, and the more recent, Junmai Glass.
Over nearly three hours, Sebastien, Rebekah, Chris, Marie and Justin got an in-depth rundown on the philosophy, process and journey that fueled the creation of both the Daiginjo and Junmai glasses, followed by an interactive tasting and simultaneous Q&A.
For part 1 this week, Wolfgang outlines how Riedel’s unique and innovative sake-specific glassware came to fruition. For part 2 (coming soon), you’ll get the live tasting and the discussion that ensued organically throughout the process.
This two-part episode is a bit of a new experiment for us here at Sake On Air. We’d love to hear your thoughts, not just about the content of the show, but also about the format. Are there any other shows of this nature that you’d like for us to make happen? Let us know!
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Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake and Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Potts.K Productions and Export Japan, with audio engineering by Frank Walter.
Thanks for listening.
Until next week, Kampai!

Jun 14, 2019 • 0sec
Talking Terroir
A topic of endless discussion and debate, this week Chris Hughes, Sebastien Lemoine, Marie Nagata and Christopher Pellegrini are joined by Eli Nygren, kurabito (brewer) at Chiyonokame Shuzo in Ehime Prefecture, to examine what exactly gives sake its “local” profile.
From rice to water, yeast to koji, people to practices, the number of elements at play that can enhance (or diminish!?) a sake’s “sense of place” are varied and complex. Is “terroir” even an appropriate word? Do sake and shochu need to establish their own vocabulary in order to truly communicate the value of their relationship to the place wherein which they are born?
All that and more on this week’s episode of Sake On Air!
We’d love to hear your thoughts, so please write us at questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or send us a message at @sakonair on either Instagram, Facebook or Twitter.
Nice reviews are welcome as well! Tell your friends!
Sake On Air is brought to you with the generous support of the Japan Sake and Shochu Makers Association and is a joint production between Potts.K Productions and Export Japan, with editing and audio production handled by Mr. Frank Walter.
Our theme is “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.