

Sake On Air
Sake On Air
A bi-weekly podcast exploring the stories of sake. Brought to you by experts on the front lines of the industry in Japan.
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Mar 31, 2020 • 59min
Awamori 101
To all of our listeners: thank you for your patience.As much as we go out of our way to include awamori as part of the broader shochu conversation, despite many months of listener requests, we have yet to do an entire episode dedicated to Okinawa’s incredible indigenous spirit. Until now!The progenitor of the entire shochu category, the now geographically indicated Ryukyu Awamori has been deeply tied to the lifestyle and culture of the Okinawan people for at least the past 600 years. With only 46 distilleries still officially producing this incredible spirit, awamori is poised to either take over the world with its unmatched depth and character, or gradually get folded into the world of shochu. This week Little Chris, aka Shochu Pro, aka Christopher Pellegrini is joined by Sebastien Lemoine and Justin Potts to go over the basics. What is it? Where did it come from? How is it made? How does it differ from products in the broader “shochu” category? We think awamori is in a position to transform both the demand for, and dialogue, around Japanese spirits. After this week’s episode, we hope you’ll think so too. Let us know what you think of the show by reviewing and rating us on Apple Podcasts. You can send your questions and comments about this or any of our shows to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or to @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. Don't forget us on YouTube! April is shaping up to be a month of excitement, challenges and experimentation. We hope you’ll continue to join us for the ride. Until then, Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter.Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Mar 29, 2020 • 58min
Building a Brewery Down Under with Zenkuro & Melbourne Sake (Part 2)
As promised, we’re coming right back with Part 2 of our exploration into what goes into paving the way for a brand new sake brewery outside of Japan. We continue our conversation with David Joll, owner and head brewer at Queenstown’s, Zenkuro, along with Matthew Shaw, co-owner and head brewer Melbourne Sake, which if all goes according to plan, should be opening its doors in the relatively near future.You have the same SOA crew as last week, with Marie Nagata, Chris Hughes, Justin Potts, and Sebastien Lemoine further digging in to the unique challenges associated with a beverage that has been so hyper localized to a specific region for so long. What are the true essentials for crafting quality sake? What can you not live without? To what degree can you feasibly DIY some decent equipment? What can really only be realized with the support of the people and equipment from Japan? All of that and more as we close out this special two-part series with these inspiring gentlemen. Please do pop over to review and rate us on Apple Podcasts if you find yourself with a free minute, and feel free to send your questions and comments about this or any of our shows to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or to @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. There will be more content coming to our YouTube channel very soon as well, so stay tuned! We’ve got one more episode set to release before the end of March. There’s a lot we want to share with you all. Take care of yourselves and one another. We’re all on this together. And while sake isn’t a solution to our global challenges, we’d like to think that a full tokkuri with a bit of regularity certainly couldn’t hurt, as well.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter. Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Mar 27, 2020 • 51min
Building Breweries Down Under with Zenkuro & Melbourne Sake (Part 1)
It now feels like eons ago when, only just last month, the global sake community seemed to have all flocked to Japan for the final days of the winter brewing season. My how the world has changed…
It was during this time that we managed to catch up with David Joll, owner and head brewer at Queenstown’s pioneering sake brewery, Zenkuro, and Mathew Kingsley-Shaw, co-owner and head brewer at the soon-to-be Melbourne Sake.
The Sake On Air team of Marie Nagata, Chris Hughes, Justin Potts, and Sebastien Lemoine sat down with these gentlemen for a conversation that went on for nearly three hours. Reluctant to trim away too many tasty tidbits, we’ve decided to split the recording into a two-part episode, the first part which you’re (hopefully) listening to now, with part two scheduled to release in the coming days.
During the first half of this marathon, these ambitious brewers and entrepreneurs discuss their initial motivations for making the leap into sake production, the people and examples that guided them early on, the initial trial and error process, and more.
There’s plenty more to the story when it comes to building a brewery from scratch in the Land Down Under. Stay tuned, as plenty more insight from these gentlemen will be hitting the airwaves in a matter of days.
For those of you that could take a spare moment to review and rate us on Apple Podcasts, it would be greatly appreciated. Feel free to send your questions and comments about this or any of our shows to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or to @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. You can find us on YouTube as well.
Take care out there everyone.And don't forget to Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter.Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Mar 16, 2020 • 1h 4min
Know Your Hosts: Marie Nagata & Justin Potts
Continuing with our Meet Your Hosts series, this week we bring you interviews with another pair from the team here at Sake On Air.
First up we have Marie Nagata, interviewed by John Gauntner – a bit of an interesting dynamic, as it was Marie’s participation in John’s Sake Professional Course and the community of sake lovers and sake-curious who shared that experience with her that initially lured her down this path, as you’ll hear her describe. Essentially, a Jedi Master interviewing his young Padawan. From her globetrotting upbringing to her time as a brewer, as well as touching upon her new endeavors and her advice for those getting started with the category, it’s a fun, lighthearted and motivating discussion that highlights how the passion for sake is getting passed from generation to generation.
In the latter half of the episode we have Justin Potts being interviewed by Sebastien Lemoine. (You can listen to the reverse of this back on Episode 27). From fermentation to farming, brewing to educating, local food to the role of family in the future of sake, and advocacy for the necessity of kanzake, the conversation takes many turns and (hopefully) rewards the listener willing to accompany Justin in his adventures and ramblings.
We would be grateful if you could take a moment to review and rate us on Apple Podcasts, and feel free to send your questions and comments to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or to @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. You can find us on YouTube as well.
We’ve got a lot coming down the pipeline in March.
Stay tuned and Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Feb 25, 2020 • 56min
Tengu Sake with Oliver Hilton-Johnson
This week we zone in on sake in the U.K. as we welcome the founder and owner of Tengu Sake, Oliver Hilton Johnson to the show.
Oliver’s carefully
curated portfolio
and user-friendly communication are just a handful of the reasons
that Tengu Sake has been selected as the Specialist
Merchant of the Year
in the Sake category for the International Wine Challenge four years running. From Oliver’s
first forays into the sake business to the exciting developments happening
throughout the sake industry in London, Chris Hughes, Marie Nagata and Justin
Potts fill the tokkuri and dig into the nitty-gritty with one of the country’s
young pioneers of kampai.
Please review and rate us on Apple
Podcasts, and send
your questions and comments to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. We’re on YouTube as well.
More Sake
On Air coming your way in two weeks.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers
Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a
co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Feb 3, 2020 • 1h 14min
Know Your Hosts: Shuso Imada & Chris Hughes
This week
it’s time once again to take a moment to get to know the team here at Sake On
Air. We first aired one of these episodes back in October (Episode 27), where you got to know Sebastie Lemoine and Christopher Pellegrini; aka, “little Chris”.
This week
you’ll be hearing from Christopher’s sake-inspired counterpart, Chris Hughes
(aka, “big Chris”) along with our quiet champion behind the scenes, Shuso Imada.
Despite his
relatively short amount of time based in Japan, Chris’s personal and
professional history with sake extends back to the days when he still called
the U.K. home, which has led him to now becoming one of the most active and
prolific non-Japanese sake educators in Japan. In his endless pursuit of truth,
as well as new questions in the world of sake, his passion and dedication are
both palpable and highly contagious.
Currently
the general manager of the Japan Sake and Shochu Information
Center (where we
broadcast from almost exclusively), Imada-san’s ties to the sake industry reach
deep, and are long and storied. From his family ties to world-renowned
breweries in Hiroshima
to deeply rooted sake distributors in Tokyo, then extending to his own private
ventures in sake-centric marketing and brand development, Imada-san has
arguably one of the broadest perspectives on the industry out of anyone, along
with the experience to match. In his interview, Rebekah takes him down a journey of his
own personal past, but also explores the major turning points of the industry
and its evolution over the past several decades. We let this one run a bit
long, because it we thought it was all important.
As always,
if you’re willing to take a moment to review and rate us on Apple
Podcasts (or
whatever service you listen on) it would mean the world to us.
We also
welcome all of your questions and comments about the show, which you can send
to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or track us down at @sakeonair on
Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. You can also listen on our official YouTube
channel, if that’s
your thing.
Time
stamps:
Chris
Hughes interview
01:46 Start of the interview
05:12 Chris discovers sake for the first time
10:50 Working in sake
26:15 Comics and sake
Shuso
Imada interview
33:44 Start of the interview
37:36 About the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association
43:30 Sake in the 1960s and 1970s
50:30 Why Imada-san's English is so good
59:40 What does the Sake world mean to Imada-san now?
We’ll be
back in two weeks.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers
Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production
between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Dec 31, 2019 • 1h 3min
Aroma & Sake
What
exactly is the scent of sake?
For our
final episode of 2019, Chris Hughes,
Rebekah Wilson-Lye, and Sebastie Lemoine gather to discuss the nature and
role of aroma in sake. Seeing as how the smells that we experience impart so
much influence on our perception of taste and our associated memories, this is
a topic that arguably carries as much weight as any in the dialogue of sake.
From
personal experiences to systematic judging, a bit of the science of sake to the
evolution of aroma in relation to production, this week’s discussion ventures
far and wide in attempt to unravel the influence of smell on our perception of
sake. That being said, we’ve still only scratched the surface. There exists a
plethora of angles we’ve still yet to explore, which means that you can be sure
we’ll be back to expand upon this particular topic again in the future.
In what
turned out to be a rather discussion-heavy episode, there are a lot of tasty
tidbits interwoven throughout the show from beginning up until the very end.
Engaged listening is highly encouraged this week!
In
addition, we also need to express a special ‘Thanks’ to all of our listeners
that have supported us throughout our first year of Sake On Air, having seen us
all the way through to the end of 2019. Thanks to all of your excitement and
support for the show, every month our listener base grows in countries spanning
the globe, resulting in more opportunities to share the wonderful world of sake
and shochu with a passionate and sake-curious population. We have a lot planned
for 2020. We can’t wait to bring you along for the ride.
If you
feel like Sake On Air contributed just a little something to your enjoyment of
sake and shochu this past year, please do take a moment to review and rate us on Apple
Podcasts (or
whatever service you listen on). If you feel like giving back to the Sake On
Air team in some way, that’s unquestionably the best way to do it.
Keep
sending us your questions and comments about the show to questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, and be sure to continue following
us at @sakeonair on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. You can also listen on our official YouTube
channel.
Happy New Year everyone! Thank you so much for your patience as we worked out what went wrong with the audio of the first version of this episode.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers
Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a
co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Dec 15, 2019 • 56min
Celebrating 1 Year of Sake On Air
We’ve been
doing this for an entire year (and then some) already! To commemorate we
decided to get the entire cast together (minus John,
sadly, who was fully there in spirit) to talk about the nature of the show
itself, as well as address a few audience and listener questions, in front of a
small live audience in Tokyo back on November 25th.
The format
this week is a bit unique, as the show was designed to be an enjoyable listen,
but also to speak directly to a live audience. For those that would appreciate
a small taste of the live experience, we livestreamed the show on our
Facebook page. The
audio quality is definitely going to be better via the podcast, but if a bit of
visual context will help you get the most out of the show and attach names to
faces, please do have a look at the
livestream video,
as well.
Since starting Sake On Air just over a
year ago the show
has now grown to have listeners in more than 50 countries across the globe and
is downloaded thousands of times every month. Hitting the ground running with
almost zero promotion or prep time back in October of 2018, we charged forward
with excitement and confidence that there was both a strong need and interest
for an open and readily available place to share a new kind of dialogue about
the fascinating and ever-changing nature of sake, shochu and awamori. Thanks to
all of our listeners and supporters that have followed along and championed us
over the past year, you’ve proven us right. We can’t thank you enough.
Knowing
that most of our listeners are scattered across the globe and not having the
opportunity to engage face-to-face with our supporters can be a challenge at
times, as sending data out into the digital void every other week can feel much
less tangible, both for us, and we imagine for many of our listeners as well.
Being able to speak in front of a live group of supporters, while also having
listeners send in questions and words of encouragement throughout the
broadcast, was incredibly rewarding.
We’d love to
hear your thoughts about this week’s format. Having tried this, we feel like
there’s potential to continue to explore this style of show and further engage
with our audience both locally and digitally in more new and direct ways. We’d
love to travel for shows as well! While it may not happen right away, if
there’s interest, we’d love to find a way to make a tour of some sort happen…!
But for
now, this week you can settle in with Sebastie Lemoine, Rebekah Wilson-Lye, Christopher Pellegrini, Marie Nagata,
Chris Hughes and Justin Potts
for a small celebration of all things sake, shochu and awamori, here in Tokyo.
Last but
not least, after listening to this week’s show, if you could take just a moment
to leave a review for us on Apple
Podcasts or your
favorite podcast streaming service it would mean a great deal to us and help
more than you know. Info and instructions about how to
do this can be found here.
Stitcher users can leave reviews directly in-browser here.
While
you’re listening, you can further keep tabs on us through Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and our YouTube
channel.
Any and
all questions and comments are welcome via questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or directly through our contact
page.
We’ve got
one more episode of Sake On Air on the way this month before we close out 2019.
Thanks again everyone.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers
Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a
co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Dec 1, 2019 • 46min
Shochu & Spirits with Philip Duff
It was
right around this very same time last year that we sat down with a whole slew of
splendid bartenders and mixologists to discuss shochu following their tour across
Kyushu.
This week,
we’ve done it again! Only this time instead of trying to squeeze a large group
into a single episode, we pulled aside a single specialist – the one-and-only Philip
Duff – to explore
shochu in the context of the greater spirits landscape.
Philip has a long and storied history in
the world of bartending, cocktails and shaping the future of spirits. From
opening Holland’s first speakeasy, Door 74, to serving as the educational
director for Tales
of the Cocktail,
writing for many of the industry’s most respected media, judging for many of
the industry’s largest bar and cocktail awards, and circling the globe as one
of the most prolific educators and consultants in the world of spirits, Philip
is now concentrating his efforts on his original genever label, Old Duff
Genever, and
further developing his on-trade consultancy at Liquid Solutions.
While
shochu does indeed dominate the conversation, given Philip’s unique experience
and perspective on the industry, Sebastien and Justin also pick his brain about the rise
of Japanese gin, the world’s misconceptions of genever, how Japan might be able
to learn from the U.S. tequila industry, and more!
After
listening to this week’s show, please do take a moment to leave us a
review for us on Apple Podcasts
or your favorite podcast streaming service. It really helps!
While
you’re listening, you can further keep tabs on us through Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and our YouTube channel.
Any and
all questions and comments are welcome via questions@sakeonair.staba.jp, or directly through our contact
page.
We’ll be
back in a couple more weeks for just a bit more Sake On Air before we close out
2019.
Stay
tuned, and Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the generous
support of the Japan Sake
& Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu
Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export Japan and Potts.K Productions, with audio
production by Frank
Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow” is
composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.

Nov 12, 2019 • 59min
Sake in Portland with Marcus Pakiser & Midori Nakazawa
Sake On
Air has taken the show on the road! Well, sort of.
The gang
isn’t all here, but Justin recently spent a bit of time in the Pacific
Northwest and along the way managed to sit down with a few of the individuals
helping to shape the future of sake in the region.
While in Portland Oregon for the annual Portland Fermentation Festival Justin sat down with sake samurai and vice president of the sake category for Young’s Market Company, Marcus Pakiser, together with SakeOne sales and marketing manager, Midori Nakazawa.
Portland is a city gathering the attention of the world for its approach to sustainable development, with it now regularly ranked as one of the best cities to live in the U.S. But what does Portland look like as a “sake city?” Does the local populace’s relatively high level of awareness in relation to food and beverage, as well as preference for “local” as well as “natural” (a word to tackle another day!) give it the potential to develop a unique local sake market that sets it apart from other major cities across North America?
Its these
topics and more that we delve into in this week’s episode of Sake On Air!
A quick
caveat about this week’s episode before listening: This was our first-time
recording “on the road.” To make a long story short, our recording tools and
methods for this (and a couple more upcoming shows that were recorded in the
U.S.) were highly makeshift. As a result, the recording quality and volume has
suffered a bit, but we hope that you’ll stick with us and that we were able to
make up for it with some fun and insightful content.
Let us
know what you thought of this week’s show (and the show in general) by leaving
a review for us on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast streaming
service.
You can
follow along with our adventures on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and our YouTube channel.
Send your
thoughts and feedback to as at questions@sakeonair.staba.jp,
or via the contact page on our
brand new website.
Thanks for listening.
Kampai!
Sake On Air is made possible with the
generous support of the Japan Sake & Shochu Makers Association and is broadcast from the Japan Sake & Shochu Information Center in Tokyo. The show is a co-production between Export
Japan and Potts.K
Productions, with audio production
by Frank Walter.
Our theme, “Younger Today Than Tomorrow”
is composed by forSomethingNew for Sake On Air.