

Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle Podcast
Bobby Owsinski
Interviews with music industry movers and shakers, tips, and news. Learn more at: bobbyowsinski.com.On this show, music industry guru Bobby Owsinski gives you his personal insights into the industry of music, covering industry news, reviews, analysis, and tips, as well as offering amazing interviews with prominent industry movers and shakers on every show! If you know Bobby, you know you're in for an enlightening and engaging treat.So enjoy the show!
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Dec 7, 2021 • 37min
Episode #398 – Kati Eismann From The Adam Hall Group, Musician Minimum Wage, And Vocal Recording Tips
My guest this week is Kati Eismann, who’s the global marketing director for the Adam Hall Group. The Adam Hall Group brands include sound reinforcement company LD Systems, stage lighting company Cameo, stand company Gravity, cable protectors by Defender, and Adam Hall hardware and flight cases. It’s also the distributor to brands like Hofner, EBS, Maiton and Mad Professor Amplification.
Before joining Adam Hall Kati spent 10 years with labels such as Warner, Universal and Virgin, and then moved into the fashion sector at brands such as Eastpak and Endemol, before returning to music business with her position with Adam Hall.
During the interview we spoke about being one of the few females in live sound, how the music business prepared Katie for the fashion industry, the difference between the US and European audio markets, and much more.
I spoke with Katie via Zoom.
On the intro I’ll take a look at the minimum wage for working musicians, and some vocal recording tips.
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Nov 30, 2021 • 36min
Episode #397: Mastering Engineer Pete Doell, The Pros And Cons Of A Record Deal, And Deepfake Music
My guest this week is mastering engineer Pete Doell, who worked as a staff engineer at the legendary Wally Heider Studios before moving to Capitol Records studio and then to Sony Pictures, where he worked for 15 years. While at Capitol, he worked on a wide range of artists from Miles Davis to Dwight Yokum to the Beach Boys and many more.
In the early 2000’s Pete transitioned into mastering engineer first at Universal Mastering Studios, then to AfterMaster Audio Labs, where he currently works. His mastering credits include Ray Charles, James Brown, Puddle of Mudd, Toto, and many more.
I wanted to catch up with Pete since his last appearance on the Podcast was in Episode 165 more than 4 years ago. During the interview we talked about the things that have changed in mastering, how streaming has actually been beneficial to music audio, the level of the mixes he asks clients to send him, mastering for The Voice, and much more.
I spoke with Pete from his studio in Hollywood.
On the intro I’ll take a look at the pros and cons of a record deal, as well as the legal implications of deepfake music.
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Nov 23, 2021 • 42min
Episode #396 – How Much Streaming Now Pays, New Uses For Spatial Audio, And Audio Educator John Krivit
John Krivit is an audio educator and founder of the extremely popular Facebook group "Hey Audio Student."
He's a past president of the Audio Engineering Society, and served as Chair of the 2018 AES Conference on Audio Archiving, Preservation & Restoration at the US Library of Congress and was Chair of the 2018 and 2019 AES High School Audio Educators Conferences.
John is also a senior affiliated faculty at Emerson College, where he’s been the recipient of the Inabeth Miller Award for excellence in teaching and the Norm Prescott Award for outstanding faculty member.
During the interview we talked about not so obvious audio jobs, John’s “Hey Audio Student” community, conducting audio manufacturer factory tours, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at how much streaming platforms are paying in 2021, and new uses for spatial audio.
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Nov 16, 2021 • 35min
Episode #395 – Earthworks Audio CEO Gareth Krausser, Music Industry Job Changes, And The Ultimate Song
NEWS
How the music industry jobs have changed
The ultimate song according to science
GUEST
Earthworks Audio CEO Gareth Krausser
Gareth Krausser, who’s the CEO of Earthworks Audio, one of the premier microphone manufacturers that keeps a relatively low profile.
Earthworks was founded by audio pioneer David Blackmer, who also founded dbx, and it was originally set up as a speaker manufacturer. David found the test gear needed in loudspeaker design was lacking so he built a measurement microphone as his first project. It was so well regarded for its sound quality that before long, the focus of the company shifted entirely to microphones.
During the interview we spoke about Gareth’s long association behind the scenes with Earthworks, what makes Earthworks mics different, specialty microphones, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at how jobs have changed in the music business, and the ultimate song according to science.
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Nov 9, 2021 • 39min
Episode #394 – Music Life Coach Ariane Paras, Vinyl Industry In Crisis, And The New Guitar Sales Boom
NEWS
Vinyl is doing better than ever, and that's why it's in crises
Will the latest guitar sales boom collapse?
GUEST
Music life coach Ariane Paras
My guest this week is music life coach Ariane Paras, who started in the business working for record labels and booking acts into large venues before she found that her real calling was helping people. Now through her Olympia Coaching she helps musicians, artists, and industry professionals how to be happy and thrive in their careers.
A certified life coach, Ariane uses a variety of self-development tools from fields such as NLP, neuroscience, mindfulness, and positive psychology in her sessions to help her clients create a life they love, and love the life they have.
During the interview we spoke about connecting to your creativity, using breath work to overcome a negative emotion, working with artists who feel stuck in their careers, getting beyond the typical artist mindset blocks, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at vinyl doing so well that it’s in crisis, and the new guitar sales boom.
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Nov 2, 2021 • 38min
Episode #393 – L-ISA Studio With Guillaume LeNost, Facebook’s Lost Young Users, And Metallica’s Band Course
NEWS
According to it's own insider data, Facebook has lost young users
Metallica has an online band course, but are bands passe?
GUEST
L-Acoustic's managing director Guillaume LeNost talks L-ISA Studio
Guillaume LeNost started in the R&D department at L-Acoustics in 2009 and has risen to Managing Direct in the UK. He’s also in charge of the company’s Creative Technologies division, which includes development of the L-ISA immersive audio system.
Prior to that Guillaume researched industrial environmental noise and binaural synthesis (in which he received his PhD), and spent time in audio for gaming space.
During the interview we spoke about the L-ISA Studio spatial audio package, how artists are thinking of immersive audio right from the beginning of a project, spatial audio translation from headphones to a playback system, L-Acoustic’s Blue Space, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at Facebook losing new users, and the Metallica online band course and the future of bands.
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Oct 26, 2021 • 39min
Episode #392 – Vocal Coach Adreana Gonzalez, Spotify’s Marquee Promo Tool, And Smart Apps Changing Music
NEWS
Spotify's Marquee promotion tool makes you pay to reach your own fans
How smart apps and plugins are changing music
GUEST
Vocal coach Adreana Gonzalez
Vocal coach Adreana Gonzalez is the founder of HVS Conservatory, a post-secondary school for aspiring professional vocalists. HVS is led by some of the most prominent vocal coaches and artist development professionals that give their students practical and actionable advice that goes beyond just technique.
During the interview, we spoke about tension can affect our voice, singer’s bad habits, the mental aspects of singing, how your lifestyle influences your throat health, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at the possible new Spotify’s Marquee promotion tool, and how smart apps and plugins are changing music.
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Oct 19, 2021 • 36min
Episode #391 – Perfect Groove’s Andreas Wagner, Songwriter Streaming Royalties, And Guitar Center News
NEWS
My guest this week is Andreas Wagner, who’s the head of software development for Rebeat Innovation. Andreas is the main developer for the company’s Perfect Groove software, which allows mastering engineers to emulate a fully cut vinyl lacquer.
Songwriter streaming royalties about to be set again, and the streaming services want it to decrease
Guitar Center's credit rating actually increases
GUEST
Andreas Wagner, head developer of the Perfect Groove virtual lacquer software
This allows mastering studios to optimize and prep audio files for the master disc cutting process, and disc cutters to detect any issues in the cutting process before the lacquer is actually cut.
During the interview, we spoke about the physics of what happens when a stick hits a drum, why a virtual lathe is needed today, how Perfect Groove fits with HD Vinyl, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at the possible new streaming royalty rate for songwriters, and Guitar Center's latest financial picture.
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Oct 12, 2021 • 46min
Episode #390 – Sessionwire’s Robin Leboe, Making A Living Through Streaming, And Recording Hits On An iPhone
NEWS
What it takes to make a living through streaming
Recording hits on an iPhone
GUEST
Founder and CEO of the collaboration platform Sessionwire, Robin Leboe
My guest this week is Robin Leboe, founder and CEO of the production collaboration platform Sessionwire.
Sessionwire solves the challenges associated with remote collaboration of having to cobble together different audio, video and file transfer services to re-create a realistic virtual recording environment.
The platform's all-in-one seamless integration of high quality audio and video enables artists to focus on the music and creative process, not technology connections and communications coordination.
Sessionwire's core components include the stand-alone Mac and Windows app, online community, a suite of cross-platform plug-ins, and the unique Sessionview, a browser-based production environment that allows anyone with a link to participate in a remote session with live high-quality audio and video.
During the interview, we spoke about the reality of latency, the unpredictability of wifi, how Sessionwire works, and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at what it takes to make a living through streaming, and recording hits with an iPhone.
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Oct 5, 2021 • 42min
Episode #389 – Flavorlab Founders, NFT Legal Issues, And Fully Deductible Production Costs
NEWS
NFTs are the hot new thing, but you have to be aware of these legal issues
A new bill will make music production costs deductible
GUESTS
Erik Blicker and Glann Schloss, founders of Flavorlab
My guests this week are Erik Blicker and Glenn Schloss, founders and of Flavorlab, an award-winning audio production company that composes, records, mixes and masters music and sound for the biggest brands in the world.
Flavorlab offers a complete set of audio solutions through its three divisions. Flavorlab Score is dedicated to composing original music and scores; Flavorlab Sound specializes in audio services for feature films, scripted and unscripted television; and commercials, trailers and video games, and Flavorlab Toolbox offers an exclusive boutique music catalog with over 5,000 songs by 300 different composers.
Flavorlab’s past projects include the original score, editing, and mix for the NBA Official 2020 Season Restart Announcement, the mix for documentary Do Not Split, the original score for HBO’s documentary Wildcard: Death of a Radio Loudmouth, and the original score, music licensing, and mix for KSV’s American Forest Foundation.
Flavorlab also composed the theme song for ABC’s iconic talk show, The View, the recent Olympics spot for Polo Ralph Lauren, and the HBO series VICE utilizes their exclusive Producer’s Toolbox and licensing services for their show music, among many others.
During the interview, we spoke about the unique circumstances for that led to the formation of the company, why they’d prefer not to do commercials, tuning drums and percussion to the key of the song, how persistence led to getting tracks on ESPN. and much more.
On the intro I’ll take a look at the some of the legal issues with NFTs, and passage of a congressional bill can make all music production costs fully deductible.
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