
Two Sides of the Spectrum
A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice.
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Latest episodes

Aug 18, 2021 • 32min
The Neurobiology of Executive Function Differences with Dr. Andrew Gordon
Dr. Andrew Gordon is a cognitive neuroscientist specializing in memory, decision making, cognitive control, and misinformation research. This episode is a deep dive into a study conducted by Dr. Gordon and a team of researchers on how executive function differences really show up neurologically for autistic people. And what they found in the study wasn’t that autistic people had executive function deficits, but that they used their executive control networks differently. In this episode, Dr. Gordon explores this research and its implications. This is part one of a two-part series on executive function. In the next episode, we’ll go even deeper into the practical ways we can support autistic people in their daily lives.
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Aug 4, 2021 • 54min
Strengths-Based Approaches in Action: Parent / Professional Collaboration
Michelle Neuringer is mom to an autistic 6 year old and neurotypical 9 year old. She’s committed to deeply learning from and about her daughter throughout her parenting journey. Jane Sloan, who teaches Michelle's daughter, is a seasoned educator with a deep passion and gift for partnering with parents. Listen into the episode to discover what a collaborative parent / professional relationship combined with a strengths-based approach truly looks like, and the concrete ways that you can translate this to your professional therapy practice.
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Jul 21, 2021 • 28min
Teaching Self-Advocacy with Dr. Stephen Shore
Dr. Stephen Shore is an autistic advocate, consultant, writer, professor at Adelphi University, and adjunct professor at NYU. His work focuses on aligning best practice in supporting autistic people to lead fulfilling and productive lives. He’s a co-author of the book Ask and Tell: Self-Advocacy and Disclosure for People on the Autism Spectrum. Join us in Episode 29 where we:Learn Dr. Shore’s step-by-step framework for teaching self-advocacyLearn how to effectively scaffold self-advocacy so our clients feel supported and successfulExplore how self-advocacy is an essential component for supporting our autistic clientsApply Dr. Shore’s self-advocacy framework to specific case studies
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Jul 7, 2021 • 32min
Being Black & Autistic: Mental Health, Bias, and Alternatives to Police Intervention with Timotheus Gordon
Timotheus Gordon Jr. blogs and posts on social media as The Black Autist. His posts center on autism acceptance, race, disability, and the latest news relevant for autistic people who are black, indigenous, or people of color (BIPOC). Join us in episode 28 where we talk about: Racism and exclusion within the disability communityThe stories of BIPOC autistic people interacting with policeReal, replicable community-based alternatives to police intervention in crisis and the Community Emergency Services & Supports Act, expected to pass in IllinoisTimotheus’s advice to therapists working with BIPOC autistic people.This is an important conversation you don’t want to miss.
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Jun 16, 2021 • 44min
AAC and Autonomous Communication With Kate McLaughlin
Kate McLaughlin, M.S., CCC-SLP (“The AAC Coach” on social media) is a Speech-Language Pathologist specializing in augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) for individuals with complex communication needs. She believes that autonomous communication, inclusion, and self-determination are fundamental human rights. Listen into this episode as we explore:The difference between autonomous and independent communication, and how understanding this distinction can open up new opportunities for our clientsWhat it means to be an “emergent communicator” and tons of specific ways we can support them4 concrete strategies we can use to teach robust AAC in a respectful and engaging way (Spoiler: not a single one of these strategies is prompting!)
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Jun 2, 2021 • 48min
Reframing Social Differences for Autistic Kids with Rachel Dorsey, Autistic SLP
Rachel Dorsey is Autistic and an ASHA-Certified Speech-Language Pathologist. Join us in episode 26 as we totally overhaul everything you thought you knew about the social skills of autistic people. In this episode, we dive into:Rachel’s own experience as an autistic person with neurodiverse and neurodivergent friendshipsThe subtle and insidious ways that OTs and SLPs are teaching our autistic kids to hide their own thoughts and emotions, even when we think we aren’tThe surprisingly negative ways that traditional social and social/emotional interventions can play out throughout a child’s lifeHow we can use a neurodiversity-affirming approach instead to support our clients’ strengths and their sense of positive self-identity and belonging
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May 19, 2021 • 53min
Empathy, Autistic Shutdowns, & A Strengths-Based Life with Elsbeth Dodman
Elsbeth Dodman is an autistic artist, creative writer, and public speaker. Tune into episode 25 where we talk about:Elsbeth’s own experience with autistic shutdowns, and the concrete strategies that helped her work through themElsbeth’s brilliant reframe of what “Whole Body Listening” means and why autistic people are actually quite good at itWhat it looks like when we turn the mirror onto neurotypicals and examine concepts like rigidity and empathyHow Elsbeth built a life on her strengths, and how we can support our clients to do the same
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May 5, 2021 • 44min
A Family-Centered Approach to PDA with Kristy Forbes
Kristy Forbes. Kristy is an autistic support specialist for neurodivergent people and their families and professionals. She is the founding director of both inTune Pathways and The Neurodivergent Co. Kristy is autistic with ADHD and a Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) profile. She is also the mother to 4 autistic kids. Listen into episode 24 where we explore:Kristy’s experience as a PDA autistic person, professional, and parentHow we can use a family-centered approach to both support our autistic clients and help meet the needs of the whole familyKristy’s biggest advice to professionals supporting autistic people with a PDA profile
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Apr 21, 2021 • 27sec
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Apr 7, 2021 • 40min
Authenticity & Gender Expression with Lyric Holmans, The Neurodivergent Rebel
Lyric Holmans is an autistic self-advocate from Texas who runs the neurodiversity lifestyle blog Neurodivergent Rebel. In episode 22, you’ll learn about Lyric’s own experience as a gender fluid autistic person. And we’ll tie this into authenticity in general, including what we can all be doing in our sessions to support positive identity around gender and sexuality. Please note that this episode was recorded before Lyric's name change from Christa.
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