
Two Sides of the Spectrum
A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice.
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Latest episodes

Dec 21, 2022 • 51min
Sensory Processing in Everyday Life with Dr. Winnie Dunn
Dr. Winnie Dunn totally changed how we think about sensory processing for Autistic people. In this episode, we explore a person-centered, strengths-based way to consider our Autistic clients’ sensory needs in their daily lives. We also get Dr. Dunn’s advice on how to use her tool – The Sensory Profile II – in a way that will make your work easier and more impactful. This is a re-release of episode 16 of the podcast.
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Dec 7, 2022 • 50min
How to Reduce Adult Demands to Increase Autistic Joy with Amanda Diekman
There’s a tool that is missing from most of our therapy bags: it’s lowering the demands for our Autistic clients. This tool is irreplaceable for helping Autistic people recover from the burnout cycle, and even for preventing burnout all together. Amanda Diekman (“Low Demand Amanda”) helps us figure out how to do just that.
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Nov 16, 2022 • 51min
Culturally Responsive Therapy for Native Autistic Kids with Jules Edwards
How does the historical and present-day trauma of Native Autistic kids impact their experience of our therapy? And how does the linear worldview of non-Native therapists create a gap between us and our Native clients? In this episode, Jules Edwards, who is Anishinaabe and Autistic, talks about culturally responsive therapy for supporting Native Autistic kids.
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Nov 2, 2022 • 52min
When Autistic Kids Become Adults: Authentic Participation & Community Access with Dr. Kristy Coxon & Dr. Caroline Mills
In this episode, Dr. Kristy Coxon and Dr. Caroline Mills look at how we can support Autistic people’s meaningful participation in daily life as they enter older adulthood. And then they help us apply these lessons to supporting Autistic people of any age, in any setting.
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Oct 19, 2022 • 52min
Breaking Out of the Medical Model with Dr. Mel Houser
EPISODE SUMMARYThe medical model is pervasive, and it asks us to silo the health needs of our Autistic clients. But our Autistic clients are full people, and their needs are intertwined. In this episode, Autistic primary care physician Mel Houser helps us reimagine healthcare and other systems that aren't working for the Autistic community, breaking down access barriers and implementing universal design for all neurotypes.
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Oct 5, 2022 • 49min
Supporting Multiply Disabled Kids: Parent Perspectives
In this three part episode, we hear from parents of multiply disabled kids on their experiences of inclusion in the schools, collaborating with therapists, and AAC. This episode takes us back in time into the history of the disability rights movement in the US and then to the present day, with practical advice that should guide how we support multiply disabled Autistic clients. Our guests include Taina Moretti, whose son has Angelman Syndrome; Evie Jesperson, whose daughter is Autistic and has CP; and an anonymous caller.
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Sep 21, 2022 • 51min
Culturally Responsive Therapy: A Moral Imperative with AC Goldberg
Here’s the truth: if we aren’t engaging in a process to learn about our clients’ cultures and our own biases, we are likely causing harm. In this episode, intersex and transgendered SLP AC Goldberg helps us explore how culturally responsive care can be the difference between causing micro-traumas for our clients or creating meaningful, positive relationships. We talk about gender, race, class and more, bringing it down to the make-or-break moments in our sessions that we may not even notice are happening.
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Sep 7, 2022 • 46min
Picky Eating, PDA, & PICA: What Every Feeding Therapist Should Know with Laura Hellfeld
Ready to dive deeper into neurodiversity-affirming approaches to feeding? Our guest Laura Hellfeld, Public Health Nurse, explores the relationship between PDA and feeding, dives into eating disorders, and shares her personal experience with PICA. This episode will take you deeper into dismantling ableist approaches to supporting picky eaters of all ages.
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Aug 17, 2022 • 37min
Affirming Approaches to Picky Eating: Moving Beyond Systematic Desensitization with Naureen Hunani
In this episode, neurodivergent RD Naureen Hunani helps us unpack the harm of systematic desensitization for picky eating in autistic kids. Then she lays out a framework for what we can do to support picky eaters in a more affirming way. This episode will inspire you to reassess everything you thought you knew about best practices in feeding therapy.
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Aug 3, 2022 • 53min
Listener Q&A: All About AAC with Kate McLaughlin
Have questions on teaching AAC to your autistic clients? Kate McLaughlin, M.S., CCC-SLP has answers! In this episode we field listener questions to Kate and get her insight on the ins and outs of teaching AAC without prompting, where to start for beginners, getting parent buy-in, working with kids who hit the same button repeatedly, choosing the right software and grid size, paying for devices, and more. Kate brings us back time and time again to the key values of autonomy and authenticity in how we approach AAC.
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