

No Vacancy The Podcast with Natalie Palmer
Natalie Palmer, Airbnb Host
A show for Airbnb hosts, new and experienced! Every Wednesday Natalie takes listeners behind the scenes of what it’s really like to be a short-term rental host, how to make it easier, mistakes to avoid, and how to get more bookings at higher rates. As an Airbnb Ambassador and 26x Superhost managing 10 properties, all remotely from home while being a stay at home mom of two, Natalie knows what it takes to succeed as an STR host and make this business fit into your lifestyle, not the other way around.
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Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 3min
167. Here's How This Project Manager Tackles 10+ Renovations Per Year - Interview with Skyler Vaughn
Today I talk with Skyler Vaughn, cofounder of For The Love Of Upstate. You'll remember his partner Madi Johnson from episodes 96 and 156, and after having her on the show twice, it was finally time I convinced Skyler to join.
Skyler is incredible when it comes to project management, and this skill is how FTLOU is able to crank out 6-7 property renovations per year, and is on track for 10-12 next year! If you, like me, are the kind of investor who gets all excited at the Pinterest moodboard phase, but then cries multiple times during a project wondering why you subjected yourself to this torture, you will be fascinated by Skyler's ability to manage so many tasks at so many different projects all at the same time and make it look so effortless.
Skyler shares with us the exact project management tools he uses, his SOPs, how he builds his team to get the job done, and his timelines for each project. This is a no-fluff episode, with practical tips you can implement right away on your next rehab.
Connect with Skyler
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Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 3min
166. How to Multiply Your Money 3x with Every Property - Interview with Kassidy Warren
This week I bring Kassidy Warren back on the podcast! You can listen to his last episode here, where he broke down each property in his portfolio and how he scaled to something bigger and better with each investment.
Today, we dive even deeper into that same philosophy with the "velocity of money". Kassidy shares how you can be doing the same amount of work on each STR you launch... but getting 2-3x more returns from that same project?! It all comes down to which deals you're pursuing.
If you're someone who's turning and burning flips or 1031 exchanges, wondering why you've done so many deals, but still don't feel like you're getting ahead, this episode is for you!
Connect with Kassidy
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Oct 8, 2025 • 60min
165. Buying An Abandoned Campground! - Interview with Heather Mueur
This week I chat with Heather Mueur who is the owner, founder, and visionary behind The Embers, a glamping and RV resort in Branson, Missouri. Heather and her husband Ryan built and sold an auto parts business, and used the proceeds from that to purchase this abandoned campground.
Heather takes us through the 2-year process of permits, plans, and construction, as well as the financing process–everything from SBA loans to finding investors. I asked all about the additional income streams they created, including an onsite laundromat and coffee shop. And you'll also hear how she grew her social media account from a couple hundred followers... to over 100,000 from LITERALLY JUST ONE POST.
Lastly, Heather teases us on her newest project, a boutique motel located just a couple miles from her campground which will be slowly renovated in phases to accommodate existing reservations!
Connect with Heather @roaminghomeheather
Follow @theembersbranson
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Oct 1, 2025 • 48min
Ep 164. Designers Are Using This Secret Weapon. Why Aren't You? - Interview with Wayfair Professional
This week I got to speak with Erin Dalton-Cooney, the Head of Property Management Design at Wayfair Professional. Erin is a wealth of knowledge in this industry, and in her role she's gained experience overseeing design and set up for every type of property from STRs, MTRs, boutique hotels, and unique resorts.
She shares with us today how Wayfair Professional is the secret weapon that designers are using to take shipping consolidation and install completely off their plates. If the pro designers trust Wayfair Professional, you should too!
Erin teases us with what's coming next for Wayfair Professional, what they have to help you now, and how they are saving hosts serious time and money, so you can get back to what you do best – investing!
Check out mine and Tatianna Taylor-Tait's official Wayfair Tastemaker collection HERE
Connect with @wayfairproffesional on Instagram
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Aug 14, 2025 • 58min
163. Forget Everything You Know About Sober Living Homes - Interview with Devana Cavé
This week I'm excited to be talking with Devana Cavé from The House of Courage, a collection of sober living homes that Devana owns and operates. Forget everything you've ever known or pictured about a sober living home, because Devana does things completely different.
Yes, she's a real estate investor, but what sets her business apart is the care she takes with every single house guest. From the colorful designs and nice furniture she invests in, to custom built bunks that offer total privacy, to the care package that every new house guest receives on arrival, Devana has made sure that what she offers is so much more than "heads in beds".
If you've been interested in investing in co-living spaces, but aren't sure if sober living is the right avenue for you, this episode will encourage you in how fulfilling and rewarding this type of real estate can be. Devana wants to be very clear – this is NOT for everyone! But if you feel called to offer an experience like this, you'll get to hear first hand how thoughtfully you can approach this for the people who need it most.
Check out some of the resources Devana mentioned:
narronline.org
The Sober Living Network
Find Devana on instagram @devanainvests
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Aug 7, 2025 • 59min
162. My First Time Raising Capital! What I Did Right AND Wrong?!
This week I'm going solo on the mic breaking down every nitty gritty detail of my latest project... drum roll please... raising investor capital for a luxury, waterfront Upstate New York property! As I write this, I'm happy to announce we officially closed and all funds have been wired.
All that to say, I definitely made some mistakes with how I went about this. And today I'm sharing the good, the bad, and the ugly. In this episode I'll take you through the entire process, start to finish, and detail what worked and what definitely did not.
As promised, here's the investor interest form I mentioned in today's episode. Either copy it for your own purposes, or fill it out if you want to partner on a future deal!
Episode 156 with Madi Johnson
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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 2min
161. Building a Wellness Resort WITHOUT Bringing on Investors - Interview with Brian Hatcher
This week I sit with Brian Hatcher to talk about his new Japandi-inspired wellness development in the mountains of Georgia. This 5-unit unique stay will feature a dedicated wellness center, and it's being designed by none other than my partner in crime, Tatianna Taylor-Tait, so you know it's going to ooze luxury and serenity.
Brian takes us through every step of how he found this land, the deals that fell through before finding the one, and the struggles of doing this all self-funded (that's right, Brian has ZERO investors on this)!
You'll hear Brian walk us through his start in house hacking, the rental arbitrage business he built along the way, and how his real estate journey has evolved to get him to the DREAM project. Enjoy!
Follow Brian's journey on Instagram @hatch_capital
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Jul 9, 2025 • 46min
160. Asking An STR Lawyer How Risk Exposed I Am! 😳 Interview with Katie Johnson
This week I talk with Katie Johnson PLC on all things STR law! Katie shares tons of insight on how to:
Make sure your portfolio is protected
Legally form partnerships
Ensure regulation won't change on you
Double check that you're actually allowed to STR your property
As a bonus, I share my current asset structure with me and Katie gives me a much needed reality check on how vulnerable I might be right now 😱 Hope you enjoy this one, and if you're now terrified of your risk profile, just listen to Katie's podcast or work with her directly.
Listen to Katie's podcast here.
Work with Katie Johnson PLC.
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Jul 2, 2025 • 57min
159. Managing 40 Properties WITHOUT Using VAs?! Interview with Ariel Smith
This week's episode with Ariel Smith was such a fun conversation! Ariel is the face behind Stay At The Coastline vacation rentals in San Diego, CA, and in just 8 months she's grown her cohosting business from zero to 40+ properties.
Ariel walks us through exactly how she's finding her clients, how she's grown so fast, and the details behind her unique partnership structure with her brokerage that has sped up her growth process.
Most importantly, she tells us exactly how she's managing over 40 listings without using any VAs for guest messaging?! It seems like every guest we've had on the podcast in the last 2 years is sharing how essential VAs have been to their operations, so I was dying to hear how Ariel is successfully scaling while still personally responding to every single guest message.
If you've been hesitant to hire VAs, you'll find this conversation so encouraging that you might not need to! Maybe what you're already doing is exactly your secret sauce that's helping your business thrive.
Connect with Ariel here, and check our her listings here.
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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 12min
158. Use These Exact Scripts to Get Your Next Midterm Guest - Interview with Jesse Vasquez
On this week’s episode, I talk with Jesse Vasquez about all things midterm rental. I’ve done episodes on the MTR strategy before, but this one was next level in terms of PRACTICAL knowledge you can apply today.
By the time you’re finished with this conversation, you’ll know exactly where to find your next midterm guest, how much to charge them, how to keep the relationship warm for next time, AND how to make money even after they check out by referring them to their next rental.
My biggest takeaway from this episode was that you don’t even need property for these tips to work. Jesse shows us how he’s making $30-40k per MONTH in referral fees alone.
The bottom line, listen to this only if you’re ready for 100% occupancy, because your booking calendar is about to be slammed with leads coming in.
Connect with Jesse at @therealjessevasquez
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