

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Aug 6, 2020 • 37min
G&R Episode 32: Hiroshima and "Atomic Diplomacy," 75 Years Later
For years, large majorities of Americans have believed that the U.S. had to use the A-Bomb against Japan on August 6th, 1945 to end the war quickly and avoid a land war and thus save one-million American lives. Scott and Bob discuss the use of the bomb, why it was used as a message to the Soviet Union and not a military necessity, the chronology behind the development and deployment of atomic weapons, the U.S. public response to it, and the creation of a new history, a propaganda piece, regarding the use of the bomb. The dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima was vital in the development of the Cold War, the arms race, the military-industrial complex, and the National Security State. Seventy-five years after the first atomic weapon was used by the U.S., it's still a highly-debated and important topic.
This is also the debut of Green and Red on YouTube, so check us out at https://bit.ly/GreenAndRedOnYouTube
Read more about the decision to drop the atomic bomb:
Gar Alperovitz, The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb
Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan
National Security Archive, "The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II"
Greg Mitchell, The Beginning or the End: How Hollywood―and America―Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Samuel Walker, Prompt and Utter Destruction
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Aug 4, 2020 • 1h 1min
G&R Episode 31: A Murder in Austin, w/ Anti-Police Brutality organizer Debbie Russell
We're Back! Lots of has been happening while we've been in break, so we start August by talking with veteran Austin community organizer, anti-police brutality advocate and Austin Legal Guild volunteer Debbie Russell (@Debmocracy) about the murder of Garrett Foster this past week, killed by a right-wing agitator who was driving his car into the crowd of peaceful protestors. The killer then drove off and later turned himself in to police but he was released and no charges have been filed. The Foster murder has received national attention and Debbie Russell and her comrades in Austin have played a major role in investigating the killing and preparing to present evidence.
We also talked about some of the longer-term tensions between the Austin police and non-white communities, and the possibility of reform with new, progressive elected officials coming into office. Despite the national uprising against police violence, even in "liberal" places like Austin, the cops have continued to assault people of color and protests that have emerged since the killing of George Floyd.
Read more about Austin police issues and the shooting of Garrett Foster here:
Council Mulls Radical Changes to Police Structure: https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2020-07-31/council-mulls-radical-changes-to-police-structure/
Mike Ramos, Javier Ambler cases won't go before a grand jury this year: https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/javier-ambler-michael-ramos-grand-jury-delayed
Austin protesters clash with police in the wake of Garrett Foster's death: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/08/02/austin-protest-garrett-foster/ U.S. Army sergeant who shot Austin protester Garrett Foster posted tweets about retaliating against demonstrators: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/31/daniel-perry-austin-protest-garrett-foster/
More from Austin:
Debbie on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/debmocracy
Hiram Live's channel covering protests in Austin: https://www.twitch.tv/imhiramg Support Austin's protests: https://www.gofundme.com/f/Protectatxpros
Austin Gonzo (Debbie’s blog): https://austingonzo.blogspot.com/
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jul 14, 2020 • 1h 11min
G&R Episode 30: Racial Violence, the Camp Logan Mutiny, and Confederate Monuments w/ Professor Clayton Lust
Green & Red Podcast celebrates its 30th episode with our special guest, esteemed scholar and friend Professor Clayton Lust (@ClaytonLust) from Houston Community College and Lone Star College, who has studied and written extensively about the Camp Logan Mutiny, a vital important yet unfortunately lesser-known historical episode where Houston Police and African American soldiers had a violent racial conflict in Houston in 1917. Given current political conditions and a rising awareness of Black history and Black interactions with police, the events at Camp Logan offer great insight into the history of policing among African Americans. We also talk about the reality behind southern monuments to the Confederacy, that they are not about "heritage" but white supremacy, and we talked about Reconstruction and the racial attitudes that continued to dominate American politics after the Civil War.
For more on this, see "Camp Logan Riot/Mutiny of 1917"; The 1917 Houston Riots/Camp Logan Mutiny; ‘BlackKklansman’ Co-Writer Kevin Willmott Gets Underway Directing ‘The 24th’, Drama On 1917 Houston Riot And Aftermath
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jul 7, 2020 • 1h 7min
G&R Episode 29: Radical Seattle w/ Historian Cal Winslow
In our latest episode, Bob and Scott talk with historian Cal Winslow about the Seattle general strike of 1919. Labor actions and protests are happening across the country and we take this moment to look back on one of the most important strikes in the 20th century. We discuss economic and social factors that set the stage for the strike, how the strike committee ran the city during the shutdown, the global backdrop and backlash.
Cal Winslow is the author of Radical Seattle: The General Strike of 1919, along with Labor’s Civil War in California. He is editor of E.P. Thompson and the Making of the New Left. He is currently Director of the Mendocino Institute and a past Fellow in Environmental Politics at the University of California, Berkeley, a researcher and writer on social and environmental subjects.
Read more:
Z Magazine: Labor’s Spectacular Revolt
Monthly Review: Radical Seattle: The General Strike of 1919
Monthly Review: The Origins of the Seattle General Strike of 1919: The Timber Beast
Jacobin: When the Seattle General Strike and the 1918 Flu Collided
Jacobin: When Being a Red Meant Risking Your Life
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 27, 2020 • 1h 19min
G&R Episode 28: One Big Union? Not So Fast: Police Unions and Other Labor Struggles w/ author Joe Allen
In this episode we talk with author, journalist, historian, and socialist Joe Allen about police unions, fighting fascism and police brutality in Chicago, the UPS strike of 1997, labor organizing at "Big Brown" and democratic organizing in the labor movement.
Joe Allen worked for nearly a decade at UPS. He has been a member of several Teamster local unions and a member of Teamsters for a Democratic Union. His books include Vietnam: The (Last) War the U.S. Lost, 'People Wasn't Made to Burn': A Trues Story of Race, Murder, and Justice in Chicago and, most recently, and recently re-released, The Package King: A Rank and File History of United Parcel Service. He has contributed over the years to Socialist Worker (U.S.), the International Socialist Review, Counterpunch, In These Times, Midwest Socialist, Jacobin, Rampant, and Medium.
Read more by Joe Allen:
Rampant: Sever All Ties with Police Unions
Jacobin: Black Lives at Big Brown
Jacobin: The UPS Strike, Two Decades Later
Medium: The Return of the ‘Hamburgs’? White Vigilantes, the Chicago Police, and Anti-Fascism in Chicago
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 24, 2020 • 1h 14min
G&R Episode 27: The End of the Age of Plastic w/ Stiv Wilson
In our latest episode, we talk with activist and filmmaker Stiv Wilson (@AgentStiv) from the Peak Plastic Foundation (@peakplastic) about the new film "The Story of Plastic." We discuss the staggering problem of plastic pollution in our oceans and our communities. We also discuss how "the end of this story is just the beginning" as people around the world are now acting to break free from plastic.
Stiv Wilson is the co-director of the Peak Plastic Foundation. He's also the producer/executive producer of "The Story of Plastic." He’s created and led several campaigns to victory: from plastic bags bans, to plastic microbeads, to plastic water bottles at the state, national and international level. He has sailed over 35,000 nautical miles to four of the five oceanic ‘garbage patches,’ documenting and communicating maritime plastic pollution firsthand through publications, multi-media, and film.
Read more:
Peak Plastic Foundation: https://www.peakplasticfoundation.org/
Story of Plastic: https://www.storyofplastic.org/
EcoWatch: The Story of Plastic: New Film Exposes the Source of Our Plastic Crisis (https://bit.ly/31dhRL4)
Salon: Humanity can’t recycle its way out of consumption problems (https://bit.ly/37U6E3v)
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 19, 2020 • 43min
G&R Episode 26: COVID19 vs. Reopening the Economy; Politics and the Pandemic w/ Prof. Sarah Koster
In our latest episode, Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969) get a return visit from Prof. Sarah Koster (@NotSoNormalNaCl) to discuss the recent spike in COVID19 infections. There are now over 2 million cases in the U.S. with the number of deaths at well over 119,000. Furthermore, Harvard University is now predicting that the number could almost double by the end of September. We discuss how political institutions, led by #BunkerBoy, continue to fail us in virus response, the racialization of the infection rate, and how to be "COVID19 responsible" when out in the streets during the current uprising against police violence.
Sarah Koster is a Nurse Practitioner based in Oakland, CA. She has worked in research and program evaluation in the area of Infectious diseases in a variety of locales including southern Africa. She currently teaches Community Health at Samuel Merritt University in Oakland, CA.
Read more:
U.S. could reach 200,000 coronavirus deaths in September, expert says (https://reut.rs/2N0woBE)
The strange new quiet in New York emergency rooms (https://wapo.st/2BbgL7R)
Brazil’s favelas, neglected by the government, organize their own coronavirus fight (https://wapo.st/3dbJqXs)
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 15, 2020 • 1h 14min
G&R Episode 25: Viet-Black Solidarity in a Time of Crisis w/ Prof. Thao Ha
In this episode, we talked with Professor Thao Ha (@ThaoHaPhD)-- Vietnamese refugee, esteemed scholar, and producer of a documentary on Vietnamese-KKK conflict in Texas, "Seadrift." We had a fascinating conversation about immigrant groups in the U.S., Solidarity during the current rebellions, Vietnamese views on Blacks, the role of younger Vietnamese in changing politics, and the future of Vietnamese-American politics.
Thao Ha is a Vietnamese refugee who earned a doctorate in Sociology from the University of Texas at Austin. She is a professor at MiraCosta College in Oceanside, CA, and has published a variety of academic works in the areas of race, gender, immigration, and Vietnamese American experiences in the South. She is an advisor and associate producer of "Seadrift," a documentary about the racial violence and KKK intimidation that erupted in the 1970s against Vietnamese Americans in a small Texas fishing town.
Read more:
Seadrift website
Eric Tang, "A Gulf Unites Us: The Vietnamese Americans of Black New Orleans East"
PIVOT, the Progressive Vietnamese American Organization
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 12, 2020 • 1h 8min
G&R Episode 24: Why Immanuel Wallerstein Matters w/ filmmaker David Martinez
In our latest episode, we talk with filmmaker David Martinez about his film featuring sociologist and leftist thinker Immanuel Wallerstein.
Immanuel Wallerstein passed away in 2019, but is best known for his development of an approach in sociology called World Systems Analysis.
His influence was particularly strong in the Global South, in fact the story goes that half of the guests at his wedding were later assassinated. There is also a building named for him in Chiapas, and he once sat on a panel with Subcomandante Marcos. He was also a main influence on Abdullah Ojalan and the Kurdish movement's recent shift to the more libertarian left. In short, he was much more than an academic, but someone who tried to use his intellectual work to change the world.
David Martinez is a filmmaker, writer, and teacher originally from San Antonio, Texas, now living in San Francisco. He's also the co-host of the Hammer and Tongs podcast (https://bit.ly/2BYRb6k).
Learn more:
Immanuel Wallerstein's website (https://bit.ly/30KH9jJ)
Jacobin: Immanuel Wallerstein’s Thousand Marxisms (https://bit.ly/3cQuq1f)
Read Karl Marx! A Conversation with Immanuel Wallerstein (https://bit.ly/2YpbZLH)
The Structural Crisis: Middle-Run Imponderables (https://bit.ly/3cVs6pI)
David's Vimeo Page (https://bit.ly/30F5cjM)
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This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).

Jun 9, 2020 • 47min
G&R Episode 23: Demystifying Antifa w/ author Shane Burley
In our latest episode, the Green and Red Podcast crew talks with author and journalist Shane Burley (@Shane_Burley1) about antifascism and the targeting of antifa by the Trump administration in the midst of the rebellion against police violence currently sweeping the US. We get into lots of good discussion about about Antifa, anarchism, mutual aid, and what the fascists are up to.
Shane is a filmmaker and author of Fascism Today: What It Is and How to End It. His work is featured at Jacobin, In These Times, Salon, Truthout, etc. You can find him on Twitter at https://twitter.com/shane_burley1
More from Shane:
Truthout: "Anti-Fascists Say They Are Protecting Communities From Right-Wing Violence, Not Fomenting “Terror” (https://bit.ly/2Y7tL5W)
NBC News: "Trump's antifa tweet is right-wing catnip — with potentially troubling consequences" (https://nbcnews.to/37babda)
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