

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
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Feb 7, 2022 • 1h 3min
Collin College strikes again! Dr. Michael Phillips, award-winning scholar, fired! (G&R 138)
Another professor from Collin College has been fired in retaliation for speaking out against President Neil Matkin's continued rejection of their First Amendment rights and their concern for safety on campus.
Michael Philips has now been fired along with Suzanne Stateler Jones, Audra Heaslip, and Lora Burnett, all in violation of their First Amendment righs. Philips first was reprimanded by Collin College for being active in a campaign to remove Confederate statues in Dallas in 2017.
More recently he has defended his fired colleagues and he has urged mask-wearing amid the COVID pandemic, though Matkin has told professors they are not allowed to mention it.
Weeks ago, he was notified that his contract would not be reviewed though he has been one of the best-regarded and most popular professors on campus for 15 years, with nothing in his background to merit any kind of penalty. Philips is another victim of Matkin and the local Republican Party to remove anyone who is not in lock-step with them and who is concerned about the COVID pandemic and who believes in free thought on campus.
We talk with Dr. Phillips about his firing and the political situation at Collin College.
Outro- The Nervebreakers "Politics"
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Bio// Michael Phillips is a scholar of American race relations, Texas history, right-wing politics, and apocalyptic religions. After a seven-year journalism career, including a stint at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, he received his Ph.D. from the University of Texas at Austin in 2002. His dissertation won the University of Texas at Austin Outstanding Dissertation Award and was published as White Metropolis: Race, Ethnicity and Religion in Dallas, 1841-2001, That book won the 2007 Texas Historical Commission’s prize for best book on Texas history.
Phillips has combined his scholarship with activism and was one of the leaders of the movement to take down Confederate monuments and rename schools named after Confederate leaders in Dallas. In 2019 he was named part of the first group of community college professors to receive a Mellon/American Council of Learned Societies Community College research fellowship for his project on the history of eugenics in the state of Texas. Phillips, and his wife and research partner Betsy Friauf, are under contract with the University of Oklahoma Press to write an upcoming book, The Strange Career of Eugenics in Texas, 1854-1940. Since 2007, he has taught at Collin College in Plano, Texas and is currently engaged in a fight over free speech and labor rights at that institution.
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Yet Another History Professor Says Collin College Fired Him Over Free Speech Concerns (https://bit.ly/3Gx9GKP)
Dallas Morning News:Collin College doesn’t renew contract of historian, author who claims retaliation (https://bit.ly/3LagNMN)
G&R: Professors fired from Collin College, Retaliation in Texas (https://bit.ly/TXFiredGandR) (from Feb. 2021)
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Feb 2, 2022 • 45min
Col. Andrew Bacevich on the Deepening Crisis in Ukraine (G&R 137)
Rising tensions in eastern Europe between the U.S. and Russia over the Ukraine have dominated the news. We discuss the situation with scholar and retired Army Colonel Andrew Bacevich. We discussed why the U.S. is so concerned, and hawkish, about Russia and Ukraine--Russophobia? We talked about the role of NATO in this current crisis. We talked about the many more pressing issues the U.S. should focus on--like inflation, COVID, the surveillance state, and especially Climate Change!
It's a great conversation with one of America's leading intellectuals and critics of foreign policy.
Andrew Bacevich is an emeritus professor at Boston University and President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft (@QuincyInst). He's also the author of several books on U.S. foreign policy and one of the foremost critics of America's war and interventionism for decades now. He is also a retired colonel in the U.S. Army, armored cavalry. And he's a frequent columnist in The Nation, as well as many other publications. His most recent book is "After the Apocalypse:America's Role in a World Transformed"
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Adam Tooze: Strategy of Tension - updated on the economic fallout from Russian-Ukraine crisis (https://bit.ly/3AXocKv)
Anatol Lievan: Ukraine: The Most Dangerous Problem in the World (https://bit.ly/3oclUCb)
Andrew Bacevich: After the Apocalypse:America's Role in a World Transformed (https://bit.ly/39oI1O2)
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Jan 31, 2022 • 1h 23min
The Best Political Television Shows of All Time! (G&R 136)
At Green and Red, we're big fans of popular culture and how it can politicize and radicalize people. We've already done shows on sports and activism, progressive Country music, cancel culture, Socialism and the Sopranos and other such themes.
So, continuing our pop culture arc, we talk about our favorite political-radical television shows.
We start with our "top five" hall of famers, and then go into a decade by decade breakdown.
Heaps of fun!
Outro- Carroll and Jean
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The Wire and the World (https://bit.ly/3ARCVqx)
How "All in the Family" Changed TV Forever. (https://bit.ly/34gM3bF)
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Jan 20, 2022 • 1h 14min
Why Oliver Stone and "JFK Revisited" are Full of S**t! (G&R 135)
Oliver Stone's new documentary "JFK Revisited" have been hitting the airwaves of late claiming to have a "smoking gun" about the assassination of John F. Kennedy (JFK). Stone and his team of assassinologists main thesis is that the military-industrial complex conspired to have JFK killed because Kennedy was a secret dove and wanted to pull the troops out of Vietnam, end the Cold War and splinter the Central Intelligence Agency into a thousand pieces.
Scott interviews G&R co-host, author and professor of history Bob Buzzanco about Kennedy era foreign and military policy disproving the claims of Stone and his films. Bob also challenges Oliver Stone or any of his team of assassinologists to a debate on the facts of this thesis. We doubt they'll respond, but if they do, you'll hear it on the Green and Red Podcast.
Robert Buzzanco is co-host of the Green and Red Podcast, a professor of history at the University of Houston, and has been a visiting professor at Ca’ Foscari University of Venice. Buzzanco was the recipient of the Stuart L. Bernath Book and Lecture Prizes, given by the Society for Historians of American Foreign Relations, for his book Masters of War: Military Dissent and Politics in the Vietnam Era and as best emerging scholar, and a Teaching Excellence Award from the University of Houston. He’s also the author of "Vietnam and the Transformation of American Life," "American Power, American People," and co-editor, with Marilyn Young, of Blackwell's "A Companion to the Vietnam War."
Outro is "High Hopes" (John F. Kennedy Presidential Campaign Song) by the Chairman of the Board.
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Noam Chomsky on Oliver Stone's "JFK Revisited" (https://bit.ly/3tzg55o)
Bob Buzzanco's Bio (https://bit.ly/3tzCX4G)
Bookshop.org: "Masters of War: Military Dissent and Politics in the Vietnam Era" by Bob Buzzanco (https://bit.ly/3tIt9oK)
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Jan 17, 2022 • 1h 14min
Best of G&R: Martin Luther King Jr.-- Radical, Democratic Socialist and Opponent of State Violence (G&R 134)
In celebration of MLK's 93rd birthday, we're re-posting two episodes about Martin Luther King Jr. Here's the second one from January 18th, 2021.
In it, we talk about the radical politics of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. We discuss King's democratic socialist beliefs, his stance against the war in Vietnam, the campaigns he worked on, --including the 1968 Olympic Boycott and the Poor People's Campaign--, and his thoughts on property destruction.
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Buzzanco: MLK for Sale (http://bit.ly/2LzGR9S)
Martin Luther King on riots and property destruction (http://bit.ly/3nHPvAk)
VIDEO: Beyond Vietnam- A Time to Break Silence (https://bit.ly/3spBgnr)
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Jan 15, 2022 • 1h 14min
Best of G&R: Martin Luther King's Radicalism and the Limits of the Liberal State (G&R 133)
In celebration of MLK's 93rd birthday, we're re-posting two episodes about Martin Luther King Jr. Here's the first one from April 4th, 2020, the 52nd anniversary of his assassination.
In this episode, Bob and Scott get into the politics of Martin Luther King and how he's WAY more radical than most people realize.
Today, everyone from the Libertarian Party to the anti-abortion movement to tech companies in Silicon Valley trying to sell you their ideology or latest gadgets by claiming his legacy. In truth, MLK fought and opposed "the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism (i.e. capitalism), and militarism" until the end of his life. While many look at the surface levels of MLK's politics and legacy, Green and Red goes deep into the real substance of who he was.
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Bob Buzzanco: MLK for Sale? How to Package a Radical (https://bit.ly/2LzGR9S)
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Jan 10, 2022 • 45min
Noam Chomsky on Oliver Stone's "JFK Revisited" (G&R 132)
Noam Chomsky returns to the Green and Red Podcast!
In a new interview, Bob talks with Prof. Chomsky in detail about Oliver Stone's new documentary "JFK Revisited," the Vietnam War, and how both liberal and conservative elites have use big lies to put leaders from JFK to Reagan to Trump in a pantheon of great leadership. They also talked about the anniversary of the Capitol Riots, politics in America and the failings of big left media.
Not to be missed interview with the "world's greatest living intellectual."
Professor Chomsky is an American linguist, political philosopher, social critic and political activist. He is Institute Professor Emeritus in the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy at MIT and Laureate Professor of Linguistics and Haury Chair in the Program in Environment and Social Justice at the University of Arizona.
At 93, he is still active; writing and giving interviews to media all over the world. He is the author of scores of books, including American Power and the New Mandarins, Towards a New Cold War, Necessary Illusions, Hegemony or Survival, Failed States: The Abuse of Power and the Assault on Democracy and Requiem for the American Dream.
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G&R:Noam Chomsky on the 1960s and the New Left (https://bit.ly/ChomskyGandR)
G&R: Celebrating "America's greatest intellectual" Noam Chomsky (https://bit.ly/ChomskyBdayGandR)
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Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 10min
The “Rainforest Chernobyl:” Chevron, Ecuador and the Persecution of Steven Donziger (G&R 129)
We go into a deep background on Chevron, their poisoning of the Ecuadoran Amazon and the company's persecution of attorney Steven Donziger.
While drilling in the Ecuadorian Amazon from 1964 to 1990, Texaco deliberately dumped more than 16 billion gallons of toxic wastewater, spilled roughly 17 million gallons of crude oil, and left hazardous waste in hundreds of open pits dug out of the forest floor. In 2001, Chevron merged with Texaco. The result was, and continues to be, one of the worst environmental disasters on the planet. It’s been called the “Rainforest Chernobyl.”
There has been a concerted legal and corporate campaign to get Chevron to take responsibility for this disaster. Attorney Steven Donziger led the campaign in the US. The company retaliated with, in Donziger's words, "the most vicious corporate counterattack in American history." It includes attempts to destroy Donziger's reputation, as well as civil and criminal charges. In October, after more than 800 days of house arrest, Steven reported to Danbury FCI for a 6 month prison sentence for contempt of court. While, he was recently released, the saga continues.
We talk with Paul Paz Y Mino (@paulpaz) with Amazonwatch (@amazonwatch) about the history of Texaco and Chevron in Ecuador, the lawsuits and the campaign to demonize Steven Donziger and any anti-Chevron campaigns.
Bio//
Paul is the Associate Director at Amazon Watch, where he has overseen its Chevron-Ecuador campaign since 2008. He has been a professional human rights, corporate accountability and environmental justice advocate for over 25 years. He has been Colombia Country Specialist for Amnesty International USA since 1995, served on staff at Human Rights Watch/Americas in 1995-1996, and was the Guatemala/Chiapas Program Director at the Seva Foundation for seven years. Paul has lived in Chiapas, Mexico and Quito, Ecuador, promoting human rights and community development and working directly with Indigenous communities.
Outro//
David Rovics (@drovics) "When Chevron Came to Ecuador"
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ChevronToxico The Campaign for Justice in Ecuador: https://chevrontoxico.com/
‘Every turn in this case has been another brick wall, and behind it is Chevron’ (https://bit.ly/3EfKOpB)
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***It's getting towards the end of year and we want to thank all of our friends and audience for listening and supporting us through 2021. Our audio audience has DOUBLED in size and our YouTube audience has TRIPLED in size this year.
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Dec 17, 2021 • 57min
Prof. Alex Vitale on Politics and Policing (G&R 128)
For many years, black and brown Americans living in cities, towns and rural areas across the nation have rightfully been afraid of uniformed officers. Far too often, police officers engage in indefensible violence against the very people they are supposed to serve and protect.
The long arm (and brutal violence) of the law also extends to homeless populations, the mentally ill, sex workers, people facing eviction, protestors, workers on strike and many others. This is a result of the emergence of the new Gilded Age brought on by austerity and ever-widening economic gaps.
We talk with Professor Alex Vitale (@avitale) at Brooklyn College about policing in our current state of affairs. We discuss the need for police, how liberal politicians continue to support the police (as well large numbers of rank and file Democrats, according to polls) and the influence and role of police unions. We also get into the "Defund the Police" movement, the backlash against it, the war on drugs, gun control and how the current debate around police is effected by rising homicide rates.
Plus a brief history of Cop-aganda (i.e. how police and Hollywood have collaborated for decades to portray police as heroes in television and film).
Like Brendan Behan said, "I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn't make it worse." We get into all of it.
Bio// Alex S. Vitale is Professor of Sociology and Coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College and a Visiting Professor at London Southbank University. He has spent the last 30 years writing about policing and consults both police departments and human rights organizations internationally. Prof. Vitale is the author of City of Disorder: How the Quality of Life Campaign Transformed New York Politics and The End of Policing. He is also a frequent essayist, whose writings have been published in The NY Times, Washington Post, The Guardian, The Nation, Vice News, Fortune, and USA Today. He has also appeared on CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NPR, PBS, Democracy Now, and The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
You can get the new edition of "The End of Policing" at Verso Books (@VersoBooks): https://bit.ly/3q3rIy5
Outro music// Capitalism (A Lonesome Rider) by Consolidated on the Emergency Hearts (@eHeartsATX) label. ---------------------------------------------------------------
Links//
The United States homicide rate continues to soar in 2021. Why?(https://bit.ly/3F1vUnY)
Americans Don’t Want to Defund the Police. Here’s What They Do Want. (https://bit.ly/3IWeRX8)
Vitale:“Policing Is Fundamentally a Tool of Social Control to Facilitate Our Exploitation”(https://bit.ly/3H2ig4X)
Hammer and Tongs: Alex Vitale on Cop-aganda (https://bit.ly/3IUKH6z)
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Dec 13, 2021 • 1h 9min
Johnny Cash's Politics, w/ historian Michael Stewart Foley (G&R 127)
*Citizen Cash: The Political Life of Johnny Cash* is a fantastic new book by Michael Stewart Foley, and we sat down and talked to him all about it. This is a must-listen, must-see episode.
We talked about Cash's upbringing in the depression and how the New Deal helped his family and led him to develop a "politics of empathy." We discussed his views on race, and especially his "Blood, Sweat, and Tears" album.
We talked about his work on behalf of prisoners and Native Americans, his views on the Vietnam War, and the way he stood up to Richard Nixon at the White House. We also discussed his legacy in today’s politics.
Cash wasn't only one of the most important entertainers of the 20th Century but a profound political figure as well.
You can buy *Citizen Cash* as your local indy bookstore, among other places, or order from the publisher at https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/michael-stewart-foley/citizen-cash/9781549112249/ .
Michael Stewart Foley is a writer, historian and professor of American Civilisation at Université Grenoble Alpes. His website is at https://michaelstewartfoley.com/.
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***It's getting towards the end of year and we want to thank all of our friends and audience for listening and supporting us through 2021. Our audio audience has DOUBLED in size and our YouTube audience has TRIPLED in size this year.
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Become a recurring donor at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
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Man in Black at 50: Johnny Cash’s empathy is needed more than ever (https://bit.ly/33gPJdc)
Johnny Cash Is a Hero to Americans on the Left and Right. But His Music Took a Side. (https://bit.ly/3rQLEXi)
The Boys Who Said No: https://www.boyswhosaidno.com/
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