

Green & Red: Podcasts for Scrappy Radicals
Green and Red
Welcome to our scrappy podcast. Bob Buzzanco and Scott Parkin co-host a regular podcast to discuss radical environmental and anti-capitalist politics with organizers, academics, artists and more.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Bob Buzzanco is a professor of history at the University of Houston. He specializes in, writes about and talks on the Vietnam War era, foreign policy, Vietnam, radical social movements, economics, and other stuff.
Scott Parkin is climate organizer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. He has organized campaigns against Wall Street banks, mountaintop removal coal mining and the Keystone XL pipeline.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Apr 12, 2024 • 38min
Mike Elk of "Payday Report" . . . on the UAW vote in Chattanooga, and Brazil, and Sen. Fetterman (G&R 284)
Bob had a great conversation w/ Mike Elk of Payday Report, a frequent G&R guest. They spent most of the time discussing the current UAW unionization drive in Chattanooga, how this election is different than previous failed votes in 2014 and 2019, and the prospects for labor in the coming months. They also discussed his time in Brazil, and the challenges Lula faces. And finally, Mike, who was always wary of Fetterman, politely declines an "I told you so" moment but lays out why the junior senator from Pennsylvania isn't really a progressive.
Donate to Payday Report to cover Chattanooga union vote: https://paydayreport.com/help-cover-u...
Payday Report: paydayreport.com
"After the Pandemic and the Stand Up Strike, Everything Changed at Volkswagen in Chattanooga"
https://paydayreport.com/after-the-pa...
**************
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/UuQVgNP5)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR

Apr 3, 2024 • 53min
Yanis Varoufakis: Capitalism is Dead, Welcome to Techno Feudalism (G&R 283)
Yanis Varoufakis's new book provocatively argues that Capitalism is dead and has been replaced by a new group of wealthy people whom he calls Technofeudalists--Zuckerberg, Musk, etc. This new ruling class, whom he calls the "cloudalists," rules over all of us, and even other capitalists, like feudal lords ruled over vassals.
Bio//
Yanis Varoufakis is an economist, political leader, and the author of numerous bestselling books. He was the finance minister of Greece in 2015. His latest book is "Technofeudalism What Killed Capitalism."
--------------------------------------------
Outro- "Green and Red Blues" by Moody
Links//
+ Yanis Varoufakis: Technofeudalism What Killed Capitalism (https://bit.ly/4cILk1J)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community ( https://discord.gg/4JRcYAng )
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac.

Mar 28, 2024 • 57min
How Labor and Climate Movements Are Building An Enduring Alliance w/ Jeff Ordower and Norman Rogers (G&R 282)
The bosses have long pitted workers against those fighting pollution, extraction and the climate crisis. As the climate crisis worsens, labor unions and environmentalists have begun to build important new alliances to challenge the power of capital and industry. In the new anthology, "Power Lines," co-editors Jeff Ordower and Lindsey Zafir discuss the challenges and successes of this growing labor-climate movements.
In our latest episode, Scott talks with Jeff Ordower (@moredower) and Norman Rogers (@NormN3D) about the prospects of enduring relationships between labor and climate movements. We discuss just transition, how the bosses often attempt to turn workers against calls for climate action, and how false solutions like nuclear and carbon, capture and storage fall into this landscape.
Bio//
Jeff Ordower is the North America director of 350.org. Prior to joining 350, he was a co-founder of the Green Workers Alliance and a member of the Rising Tide North America collective. He’s the co-editor (with Lindsay Zafir) of Power Lines (The New Press), he lives in Philadelphia.
Norman Rogers is the Second Vice President of United Steelworkers, Local 675
————————
Outro- “Green and Red Blues” by Moody
Links
+Power Lines: Building a Labor–Climate Justice Movement (https://bit.ly/3VAhZRe)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community ( / discord )
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at / greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac.

Mar 21, 2024 • 38min
That Flag Won't Get You into Heaven: My Lai, Rachel Corrie & Iraq War Anniversaries + Gas for Israel (G&R 281)
In our latest, we talk about the American empire and it's dissenters. We get into the anniversaries of the My Lai massacre, the murder of activist Rachel Corrie in Gaza, the Vietnam era self-immolation of Alice Herz and the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
We also talk about who's (literally) fueling the Israeli war machine.
--------------------
Outro- "That Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven" by John Prine
Links
+Revealed: How the global oil industry is fueling Israel’s war on Gaza (https://bit.ly/3IOKFhu)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/ekY2AQ4d)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.

Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 21min
"Fighting Times"... Radical Labor Organizing in the 1970s w/ Jonathan Melrod (G&R 280)
We had a great conversation with longtime labor organizer and activist Jonathan Melrod where we discussed his life in activism, with a particular emphasis on labor organizing during the 70s and 80s, when deindustrialization began to shatter American jobs.
Jonathan Melrod is a name synonymous with political activism, labor organization, and human rights advocacy. With his remarkable journey as a survivor of pancreatic cancer, he has defied odds and emerged as a beacon of resilience in the fight for justice.
In his compelling book, "Fighting Times," Jonathan chronicles his groundbreaking contributions to a myriad of social movements, including the iconic student movement of the 1960s, the historic civil rights movement, the trailblazing black liberation movement, the empowering women's liberation movement, the urgent call for police reform, and the transformative labor reform movement.
Drawing from his personal experiences and tireless efforts, Jonathan offers unparalleled insights into the challenges, triumphs, and untold stories of those who dedicated their lives to the Labor Movement. His words resonate with the spirit of change, emphasizing the significance of collective action and empowering workers to demand their rights.
Bio//
Jonathan Melrod is a radical, political activist, labor organizer, human rights lawyer and pancreatic cancer survivor. His memoir “Fighting Times” details his work as a radical labor organizer.
--------------------------------
Outro- "St. Monday" by Billy Bragg
Links
+ PM Press: Fighting Times: Organizing on the Front Lines of the Class
War (https://bit.ly/3TFKr2q)
+https://www.jonathanmelrod.com/
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/XS5jQkPF)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.
Hashtags: #jonathanmelrod #classwar #union #labor #laborhistory #fightingtimes #fightback

Mar 13, 2024 • 35min
How the FBI Began Its Long Campaign Against the Anti-Pipeline Movement w/ Journalist Adam Federman (G&R 279)
Newly obtained documents reveal that the U.S. government was monitoring environmental activists opposed to the Keystone XL pipeline far earlier than previously known. Young, Native activists were among the government’s first targets. The FBI file describes Native American groups as a potentially dangerous threat and likens them to “environmental extremists” whose actions could lead to violence. The records also reveal for the first time that the State Department was involved in monitoring activists, beginning in late 2013.
From the Wobblies to the Black Panthers, this is an all too familiar pattern of the federal government surveilling and spying on anyone that deviates too much from business as usual.
In the latest episode, Scott talks with journalist Adam Federman (@adamfederman) about his latest article exposing the U.S. government's spying on the anti-pipeline movement much earlier than thought.
Bio//
Adam Federman is a reporting fellow with Type Investigations who has written widely on environmental policy, public lands, and corporate and police spying on environmental activists. The recipient of a 2020 Fetisov Award for his environmental reporting, he has written for Politico Magazine, The Washington Post, Wired, Slate, The Nation, and other publications. His first book, Fasting and Feasting: The Life of Visionary Food Writer Patience Gray, was a New York Times notable book of 2017 and a finalist for the LA Times Book prize in biography.
------------------------------------------
Outro- "Fuck the FBI" by Intentional Harassment
Links//
+Adam's Website: http://adamfederman.com/
+ How the U.S. Government Began Its Decade-Long Campaign Against the Anti-Pipeline Movement (https://bit.ly/3v48TRH)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/XS5jQkPF)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.

Mar 11, 2024 • 49min
Liberals Celebrate International Women’s Day By Bombing Gaza (G&R 278)
In our latest Scrappy Sunday, we talk about the State of Disunion that liberals have wrought on the rest of us. We talk about International Women’s Day being celebrated while Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton bomb and exploit their way to power. Scott talks about anti-war direct actions in his hometown of Garland, TX and how Sen. Tom Cotten is calling for investigations of “left extremism” in the military after Aaron Bushnell’s death.
All this and this week in radical history (which celebrates radical women such as Judy Bari, Berta Cáceres and Lucy Parsons).
—————
Outro- “The Best Things in Life Are Free” by The Melbourne Ska Orchestra
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/DhE7zACh)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.

Mar 6, 2024 • 55min
"Chomsky and Me: A Memoir" . . . Bev Stohl's quarter-century as Chomsky's administrative aide (G&R 277)
For over 25 years Bev Stohl was the administrative aide to Noam Chomsky at MIT. But she was so much more than that . . . not only did she manage his office, but become a close personal friend. She recently wrote a memoir of her time with him at MIT and we had a fantastic and poignant conversation about what Noam is like in "real life," when he's not writing and speaking about world events.
We found out that Noam thinks scotch provides him protein. That he loves pets. That after Ali G. got in for an interview he told her "no more gold suits." We discussed how Noam eats egg (singular on purpose). Bev talked about her travels with Noam, including to the Vatican, his long friendship with Howard Zinn, the various people she met who came in to talk with him (including Zack de la Rocha and Tom Morello), how he warmed up to kids and pets, and so much more.
It's a rare insight into the personal life of the world's most famous dissident provided by the person was was close to him every day for over a quarter-century.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Outro- "Green and Red Blues" by Moody
Links//
+ Chomsky and Me: A Memoir (https://bit.ly/3P8gvcD)
+Bev's website: http://bevstohl.blogspot.com/
+ Instagram: Chomsky and Me A Memoir (https://bit.ly/3v7jKKy)
+ Facebook: Chomsky and Me A Memoir
(https://www.facebook.com/ChomskyandMeAMemoir)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/2skFuHUb)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac.

Mar 2, 2024 • 1h 10min
Don't Dismiss Aaron Bushnell's Act of Resistance w/ Anti-War Veteran Graham Clumpner (G&R 276)
Last Sunday, February 25, 2024, Aaron Bushnell killed himself by setting himself on fire in front of the Israeli embassy in Washington DC. He did this as an act of resistance to the ongoing genocide in Gaza by the IDF. He was just 25 years old. He was an active duty member of the US Air Force. He live streamed as walked to the embassy and said: “I will no longer be complicit in genocide.I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest, but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all. This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal.”
His final words, shouted several times as the flames consumed him, were “Free Palestine! Free Palestine!”
In our latest, we discuss the self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell. We're joined by our comrade and anti-war veteran Graham Clumpner (@turncoatveteran) to discuss Aaron's act of resistance, anti-war/anti-imperialist sentiment in the military and why the Left continues to fail at connecting with veterans of America's foreign wars.
Bio//
Graham Clumpner is an anti-war U.S. military veteran of the war in Afghanistan, anarchist, environmentalist and direct action organizer.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Outro - "Al Kuffiyah" by Shadia Mansour
Links//
+Self-Immolation of Aaron Bushnell (https://bit.ly/3SY2teN)
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community (https://discord.gg/)
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by
Moody. Editing by Scott.

Feb 26, 2024 • 51min
I Voted for Joe Biden and All I Got was These Lousy Wars and More COVID (G&R 274)
In our latest, we talk about the two year anniversary of the beginning of the war in Ukraine. How COVID is worse than ever (it’s just no one is talking about it anymore). And how the titans of finance are backpedaling on their pledges to do something about the climate crisis.
We also talk with entrepreneur Jeff Grubler about his new bottled water start up “Gaza Springs.” And the impact of Israel’s assault on local water supplies. (Ok, maybe Jeff’s really an antiwar street theater activist).
All this and your weekly dose of radical history on the latest Scrappy Sunday.
----------------------------
Outro- "The Preacher and the Slave" By Utah Phillips
Links//
+Gaza Springs: www.gazasprings.com
Follow Green and Red//
+G&R Linktree: https://linktr.ee/greenandredpodcast
+Our rad website: https://greenandredpodcast.org/
+We're part of the Labor Podcast Network:
https://www.laborradionetwork.org/
+ Join our Discord community ( / discord )
Support the Green and Red Podcast//
+Become a Patron at / greenredpodcast
+Or make a one time donation here: https://bit.ly/DonateGandR
This is a Green and Red Podcast (@PodcastGreenRed) production. Produced by Bob (@bobbuzzanco) and Scott (@sparki1969). “Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Scott.