
The New Abnormal
#TheNewAbnormal podcast (which has over 250,000 downloads) focuses on understanding today and anticipating the future. Discussing these subjects via the viewpoints of my guests has led to some fascinating conversations with activists, creatives, writers, philosophers, strategists, psychologists, lecturers, futurists, etc. Re: my bio, I'm a strategist, author and speaker. My 1st book went to No1 in the business charts, whilst my 2nd was shortlisted for the 'Business Book of the Year' Awards. (The podcast partners with The Copenhagen Institute for Futures Studies, a global leader in applying futures studies to solve strategic challenges, helping clients to be #FuturesReady.) So, we hope you enjoy listening to the series - which was set up during the early days of Covid, and is divided into Series One [2020-21] Two [2022] Three [2023] Four [2024] and Five [2025]. All rights reserved. #TheNewAbnormal podcast series © Sean Pillot de Chenecey 2020.
Latest episodes

Jun 21, 2024 • 47min
Cecile Cremer 'How to start a Ministry for the Future'
Series FourThis episode of #TheNewAbnormal podcast features Cecile Cremer, Founder of 'Wandering the Future'. She's a renowned trends expert who explores the 'Added Value of the Future' by translating trends into future-proof business solutions. She's also the first female and youngest ever President of LaFutura Global Trend Network, and Co-Founder of the 'Humanized Tech Awards'. In this interview, we discuss all of the above, along with her viewpoints on issues including 'democratising the future' re: knowledge distribution, approaches on how to build healthier and happier countries, leading-edge thinking on speculative fiction & scenario planning, and of how to develop futures-thinking as a dynamic skillset. She's a really dynamic individual - and I'm sure you'll enjoy listening to her viewpoints.

Jun 20, 2024 • 55min
Andrew McLuhan 'The Medium is the Message'
The podcast features Andrew McLuhan, grandson of Marshall McLuhan. They discuss exploring Marshall McLuhan's library, the relationship between his grandfather and father, pattern recognition, identity, global village concept, and the iconic statement 'the medium is the message'. Topics include mimesis in media studies, cultural shifts, technology's impact on identity, challenges in navigating technology, stress management in modern life, global village concept, and newsletter subscription details.

Jun 19, 2024 • 50min
Adam Chmielowski 'How brands can avoid being cultural parasites'
Series FourThis episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Adam Chmielowski, co-founder at the specialist cultural insight and brand strategy practice, Starling Strategy, who work for clients including Google, Nike, PepsiCo, Pan Macmillan and the National Trust.Adam has worked in the insight and brand strategy industry for nearly 25 years, during which his interests have shifted towards using cultural rather than psychological / individualist approaches, as well as systems and sociological thinking, historical perspectives and a journalistic instinct for storytelling. No one project is the same, but all invariably involve helping brands see alternative paths to the future.He’s also a lecturer on cultural strategy at the University of Bristol’s School of Management, focusing on how the theory translates into practice. We discuss all of the above during the interview, along with his latest undertaking – an MRes at the Cabot Institute, exploring how brands construct sustainability campaigns as cultural strategies, using myth, promoting ideologies, reconfiguring systems and more. So…enjoy the episode!

Jun 18, 2024 • 46min
Erik Korsvik Ostergaard 'Reinventing Organisations c/o Anticipatory Leadership'
In this podcast, the guest Eric Korsvik Ostergaard discusses the transformation towards future work trends, Teal organizations, and anticipatory leadership. The conversation explores the evolution of organizational structures, the traits of anticipatory leaders, and the effects of the pandemic on societal scripts and mental health. It's a masterclass on reinventing organizations for a positive effect.

Jun 14, 2024 • 50min
Louise Mowbray 'Future-focused Leadership'
Series FourThis episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Louise Mowbray, founder of Mowbray by Design, author of 'Relevant: Future-Focused Leadership' and co-author of 'Uncertainty: Making Sense of the World for Better, Bolder Outcomes'. She specialises in the future of work & future of leadership, working with some of the world's most respected leaders and C-suite teams at the intersection of leadership, innovation, transformation and purpose-driven business. Clients include those such as PWC, EY, Cass Business School, The IoD, Boston Consulting Group, Henley Business School, the Law Society, and more. She's also a Conscious Leadership Coach, Natural Foresight Practitioner, and a behavioural science practitioner. So, in the podcast, we discuss all of the above in what I hope you'll find is a wide-ranging and deeply interesting conversation!

Jun 13, 2024 • 1h 1min
Tom Lombardo ‘Review: The Most Inspiring/Informative Futures Books’
Renowned futurist Tom Lombardo discusses the top futures books in science fiction, ranging from late 19th-century classics to futuristic imagery and comical predictions. He explores the expansive and cosmic futures of Stapleton, dystopian fiction such as 'Brave New World' and '1984', non-Western futuristic visions, and the influence of women in sci-fi. The podcast also delves into the importance of long-term thinking and effective altruism.

Jun 12, 2024 • 48min
Keely Adler 'Helping brands understand themselves in shifting contexts'
Series FourThis episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Chicago-based Keely Adler, cultural futurist at Dentsu and core team at Radar. A brand strategist by trade, time-traveling futurist at heart and with a nearly decade-long career grounded in creative strategy and qualitative consumer research, Keely has spent her time working across a range of brands and special projects that leverage her cultural expertise and fuel clients’ curiosity about the world and where it’s headed. Today, she’s spearheading a Cultural Futurism practice within the strategy group at dentsu: leveraging foresight to help brands understand — and future-proof — themselves in rapidly shifting contexts. She believes in understanding the present through the lens of the past in order to make sense of the future, and she loves helping makers, creators, and brands do the same. In this episode, we therefore discuss a range of issues that she's currently obsessing over: the future of work & global power dynamics | the makings of a post-deprivation world | the role of fandom and community in a micro-culture first context | exploring new ways into strategic foresight & designing for the future...

Jun 11, 2024 • 50min
Suzette Brooks Masters 'Actioning futures-thinking for a better tomorrow'
This episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features NYC-based Suzette Brooks Masters, a serial social entrepreneur with a long track record of creating positive change in society on a range of issues. A thought leader and strategist in the fields of democracy, governance and futures. Suzette uses her extensive philanthropic, non-profit, research, advocacy, program development and legal experience to advise foundations, non-profit organizations, policy makers and corporations on how to usher in better futures for America and to build a truly vibrant and sustainable multiracial democracy. So, I hope you enjoy listening to her dynamic viewpoints!

Jun 10, 2024 • 47min
Maarten Leyts 'Generation ZAlpha - connecting with the next micro generation'
Series FourThis episode of 'The New Abnormal' podcast features Maarten Leyts, the Founder of Trendwolves and an expert on translating trends into products, strategies campaigns and future brand value. He’s also the author of ‘Generation ZAlpha – Connecting with the Next Micro-Generation’. Maarten believes that generational thinking, when used correctly, provides a solid framework for successful marketing and product innovation. We therefore discuss his research into issues such as the pandemic as a catalyst of change, brain development in the digital age, diversity & inclusion, the Metaverse, and data privacy. It’s not every day that, when discussing marketing, you get to reference individuals such as the French philosopher Auguste Comte, the 19th Century Earl of Shaftesbury, along with those working at the World Federation of Advertisers and for the European Parliament…

Jun 9, 2024 • 41min
Victoria Robson 'Sirens Bay, and the Real Writers Circle'
This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features the novelist and journalist Victoria Robson, who has more than 20 years experience reporting on business and finance in the UK and Middle East. Her newly-published debut novel 'Sirens Bay' is an 'enemies to lovers' small-town romance set in Maine. She wrote it under the pen name Cassie Bruce, and is now working on the second book in the series. As co-founder of Brighton-based writers' group Real Writers Circle, she believes in the power of stories, understands the value of sharing knowledge, expertise and skills between peers, and loves the joy and support that community brings. In the podcast, we discuss the above, along with her involvement in the dynamic Safehaven Brighton, which was originally set up over a decade ago to support women in Brighton, especially those experiencing homelessness, isolation or abuse. It now welcomes anyone looking for a safe place, the aim being to provide them with dignity, hope and community.
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