
On Tax
On Tax brings together professionals in the Cravath network for conversations about their life and work in the world of tax. Hosted by Cravath partner Len Teti, the show focuses on the often-forgotten human side of tax, highlighting the people, connections and stories that make the space such a fascinating and dynamic area of practice. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP is a premier U.S. law firm that has been at the center of many of the world’s most significant transactions and disputes for more than two centuries. Learn more about the Firm at cravath.com, and explore its bicentennial at 200.cravath.com. (On Tax is intended for informational and educational purposes only, and does not establish an attorney-client relationship between any person or entity and Cravath.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Dec 7, 2021 • 29min
Ashley Elnicki formerly of Cravath (Tax Department Alumna)
Ashley Elnicki is a yoga teacher in Denver, Colorado, who started her professional career as a tax associate at Cravath. In this episode of On Tax, Ashley talks to Cravath partner and former colleague Len Teti about her path from Pittsburg, Kansas, to Los Angeles and later to New York City, her decision to depart and then rejoin the Firm, and the mentorship she received from the late USC School of Law professor Edward Kleinbard along the way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 16, 2021 • 26min
Tom Neylon of Endo Pharmaceuticals
Tom Neylon is the Senior Vice President, Tax of Endo Pharmaceuticals. Before attending law school, he worked at a public accounting firm in his home state of Delaware. In this episode of On Tax, Tom talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about his time in Basel, Switzerland, and how he cultivates trust on multinational teams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 26, 2021 • 27min
Senior Judge James Halpern of the U.S. Tax Court
James Halpern is a Senior Judge of the United States Tax Court. Before joining the bench, he led a varied career in tax, including time spent in private practice, academia and the federal government. In this episode of On Tax, Judge Halpern talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about the mentorship he offers his law clerks and what has surprised him most during his more than 30 years on the bench. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 5, 2021 • 38min
Mitchell Kane of NYU School of Law
Mitchell Kane is the Gerald L. Wallace Professor of Taxation at NYU School of Law and the Editor-in-Chief of Tax Law Review. Before moving to New York, he taught students at University of Virginia School of Law, including Cravath partner and host Len Teti. In this episode of On Tax, Mitchell talks to Len about his early introduction to tax law through his family’s business, his transition from a law firm to academia, and the advice he gives his students when they are researching law firms. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 14, 2021 • 24min
Eric Hilfers of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Eric Hilfers serves as Head of the Executive Compensation and Benefits Department at Cravath. In the Season 2 premiere of On Tax, he talks to fellow Cravath partner and host Len Teti about starting at the Firm as a corporate associate, the professional interests that later drew him to the Tax Department, and how his hybrid skillset enabled him to help pioneer the Firm’s then newly created Executive Compensation and Benefits practice in the mid-2000s. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 24, 2021 • 26min
Special Recruiting Episode: Lauren Angelilli and Ting Chen of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Lauren Angelilli is the Head of the Tax Department at Cravath, and Ting Chen is the Firm’s Corporate Hiring Partner. In this special recruiting episode of On Tax, Lauren and Ting talk to fellow Cravath partner Len Teti about their own experiences coming to the Firm, what law students can expect during their call back interviews, and the types of meaningful work that associates take part in when they come to Cravath. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 6, 2021 • 27min
Mike Lane of Slaughter and May
Mike Lane is the head of the Tax Department at London-based law firm Slaughter and May. Mike recalls wanting to be a Royal Air Force pilot growing up before deciding to pursue his law degree. In the Season 1 finale of On Tax, he talks to Cravath partner Len Teti about how training as a lawyer in the U.K. differs from the U.S. legal education, as well as how he encourages young associates in his Department to take ownership of their matters as an important part of their training. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 22, 2021 • 47min
Josh Gordon of IBM
Josh Gordon is the Vice President, Finance - Controller for IBM Americas. After receiving his law degree, Josh started working as a tax associate at PwC while completing his LLM part-time at NYU School of Law. In this episode of On Tax, he talks to Cravath partner Len Teti about the many crossroads he has faced in his career, as well as the opportunities his mentors encouraged him to pursue along the way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 8, 2021 • 29min
Kiran Sheffrin of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Kiran Sheffrin is a senior attorney in Cravath’s Tax Department. In this episode of On Tax, she talks to Cravath partner and colleague Len Teti about how she has always wanted to be a lawyer; the opportunities she pursued while a student at Brooklyn Law School; and how she has embraced her role as a mentor, guiding junior associates much in the same way that she was brought up at the Firm. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 25, 2021 • 37min
David Dubner of Goldman Sachs
David Dubner is a Partner and Managing Director, and the Global Head of M&A Structuring in the Investment Bank at Goldman Sachs. After receiving his law degree, David spent several years as a tax associate at Cravath before moving to the New Products group at Goldman Sachs in the mid-2000s. In this episode of On Tax, David talks to host Len Teti about how he decided to take his first steps out of law and into corporate finance, as well as the current trends he is seeing across M&A, including SPAC transactions, in his practice today. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.