
On Tax
On Tax brings together professionals in the Cravath network for conversations about their life and work in the world of tax. Hosted by Cravath partner Len Teti, the show focuses on the often-forgotten human side of tax, highlighting the people, connections and stories that make the space such a fascinating and dynamic area of practice. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP is a premier U.S. law firm that has been at the center of many of the world’s most significant transactions and disputes for more than two centuries. Learn more about the Firm at cravath.com, and explore its bicentennial at 200.cravath.com. (On Tax is intended for informational and educational purposes only, and does not establish an attorney-client relationship between any person or entity and Cravath.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Jul 26, 2022 • 27min
Special Recruiting Episode – Lauren Angelilli and Ting Chen of Cravath (Originally Released Summer 2021)
Lauren Angelilli is the Head of the Tax Department at Cravath, and Ting Chen is the Firm’s Corporate Hiring Partner. In this re-release of our special recruiting episode of On Tax, Lauren and Ting talk to fellow Cravath partner and On Tax host Len Teti about their own experiences coming to the Firm, what law students can expect during their callback interviews, and the types of meaningful work that associates take part in when they come to Cravath. (This episode of On Tax was originally published on August 24, 2021.) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 19, 2022 • 25min
Patrick Lee of DTE Energy
Patrick Lee is Vice President and Chief Tax Officer at DTE Energy in Detroit, Michigan. He began his career in public accounting before joining the tax group at a Detroit law firm and later clerking for the U.S. Tax Court in Washington, D.C. In this episode of On Tax, Patrick and Cravath partner and host Len Teti discuss the impact that mentorship has had on Patrick’s professional development, both as a junior associate and as a senior executive today. Drawing from his experience managing an in-house team, Patrick offers insight into developing the business acumen that distinguishes the best tax lawyers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 28, 2022 • 32min
Carrie Galloway of JPMorgan
Carrie Galloway is a Managing Director and the Global Head of Advice Lab for JPMorgan Private Bank. She began her career as a tax associate at Cravath before moving on to practice trusts and estates law, later becoming a wealth manager. In this episode of On Tax, Carrie and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about working together as associates and how she decided to move from a law firm to a bank. Carrie also speaks about the advice she provides young lawyers on how to find a professional niche that plays to their strengths, both in and out of the legal field. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 7, 2022 • 22min
Fintan Clancy of Arthur Cox LLP
Fintan Clancy is a partner and the Head of Tax at law firm Arthur Cox LLP in Dublin, Ireland. He began his career practicing UK law in London and Hong Kong before returning to Ireland to help build the tax practice at Arthur Cox. In this episode of On Tax, Fintan and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about working together on cross-border transactions and the differences between practicing in Ireland and the U.S. Fintan also offers his advice on what distinguishes the best tax lawyers, based on his experiences working with lawyers from around the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 17, 2022 • 28min
Gabriela Schwarz of Novartis
Gabriela Schwarz is Head of M&A Tax at Novartis in Basel, Switzerland. Before focusing on transactional work, she had broad experience in tax advisory at Big Four accounting firms. In this episode of On Tax, Gabriela and Cravath partner and host Len Teti compare notes on Swiss and American legal education and tax authorities, and talk about the international collaboration required for cross-border transactions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 26, 2022 • 26min
JoLinda Herring of Bryant Miller Olive
JoLinda Herring is Managing Shareholder of the law firm Bryant Miller Olive and Co-Chair of its Public Finance group. After graduating from Fisk University, one of the nation’s historically black colleges and the oldest institution of higher learning in Nashville, with a degree in chemistry, she earned an MBA, worked for her father’s construction business, and ran for local political office before deciding to attend law school. In this episode of On Tax, JoLinda talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about how her wide-ranging experiences and interests naturally culminated in her public finance practice and her current role as a member of Fisk’s Board of Trustees. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 5, 2022 • 32min
Andrew Hayashi of UVA Law
Andrew Hayashi is the Class of 1948 Professor of Scholarly Research in Law at the University of Virginia School of Law, and the Director of the Virginia Center for Tax Law. Before becoming a professor, Andrew practiced tax law as an associate and transitioned into academia when he spent two years as a research fellow at New York University. In this episode of On Tax, Andrew talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about how his intellectual interests in philosophy and economics come together very naturally in tax, and the type of advice he gives to students who are considering careers in tax law. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 15, 2022 • 30min
Mike Schler of Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP
Mike Schler is a retired partner at Cravath. He joined the Firm’s Tax Department in 1974, was elected a partner in 1982 and retired as a partner in 2014. In the Season 3 premiere of On Tax, Mike talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about his nearly five decades at the Firm, from his first assignment to the guidance he offers associates today. Mike also discusses his longstanding interest in tax policy and the work that made him a titan of the New York State Bar Association’s Tax Section. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 8, 2022 • 1min
Welcome to Season 3 of On Tax
On Tax returns for Season 3 next week. This season, tune in every three weeks as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti sits down with professionals from academia, law firms and private industry, along with a few special guests from abroad. First up is Cravath retired tax partner Mike Schler, who shares his observations from nearly five decades at the Firm. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 28, 2021 • 28min
Darren Heil of JPMorgan
Darren Heil is a Managing Director in the Investment Bank at JPMorgan Chase. After law school, he joined Cravath as a litigation associate before moving into the Firm’s Tax Department. In the Season 2 finale of On Tax, Darren talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about his career path being hired in-house to an investment bank and some of the current trends he is seeing in the deal space. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.