
Be Mythical
The Be Mythical podcast is a top 1.5% globally ranked show for old souls in this new world to be inspired, guided, and activated by deep, soul-stirring explorations with remarkable thinkers, wisdom keepers, visionaries, and healers about how to overcome the greatest challenge of your life… To become your unique medicine and actualise your own soul’s myth.
Old souls are the ones who came here in these crazy modern times to do vital work in service of Spirit and their communities… typically as spiritual practitioners, coaches, innovators, disruptors, healers, teachers, medicine people, and visionary leaders.
We’ve been running since 2014 so there are hundreds of mythical, magical, and mystical episodes to choose from that weave together ancient ways for modern days… shamanism, archetypal work, rewilding, embodiment, alchemy, psychedelics and plant medicine, astrology, non-dual spirituality, shadow work, and so much more.
In short, Be Mythical is the antidote for old souls struggling to find their way in this new world.
Listen now to join us for the mythical adventure that your soul has been calling you into.
Our love and blessings,
Lian & Jonathan
Latest episodes

Mar 26, 2024 • 1h 4min
How to journey with the gifts and challenges of being an Old Soul - Lian Brook-Tyler and Jonathan Wilkinson
Have you ever felt a deep resonance with being an old soul? Join Be Mythical co-founders, Lian Brook-Tyler and Jonathan Wilkinson as they delve into navigating the intricacies and challenges of being an old soul in this modern world. Together they explore the recognition and journey of old souls - someone who has chosen to come to this life with deep work to do and has likely journeyed through many lifetimes. They discuss the challenges of knowing oneself as an old soul, including resistance, fear, and grandiosity, as well as the purpose of old souls, the wound of separation, and the common threads that unite them. The conversation also touches on the call of the wild, the significance of neurodivergence, and the changing landscape for old souls in the modern world and the need for community, support and guidance. We’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: Old souls are individuals who have chosen to come to this life with significant work to do and have likely journeyed through many lifetimes. They tend to possess a deep reverence for life and a sense of ancient wisdom. Old souls often have a deep recognition of themselves as such, which goes beyond any challenges or doubts they may face. Although knowing oneself as an old soul can bring challenges such as resistance, fear, and grandiosity, embracing the term 'old souls' can be empowering and help individuals fully embody their gifts and purpose. Old souls come to this world with a purpose and Material for Liberation to work through. The journey of an old soul involves healing the wound of separation and returning to the truth of who they are. Finding guidance and soul family is essential for old souls on their journey… UNIO is a community and academy that provides the alchemy, kinship, and support for old souls to alchemise and fulfill their purpose. Resources and stuff spoken about: Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union. This is for the old souls in this new world… Discover your kin & unite with your soul’s calling to truly live your myth. Be Mythical Join our mailing list: https://www.bemythical.com/moonly Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union: https://www.bemythical.com/unio Go Deeper: https://www.bemythical.com/godeeper Follow us: Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Thank you for listening! There's a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each episode delivered to your device every week automagically (that way you'll never miss an episode).

Mar 20, 2024 • 1h 1min
Spirituality Vs mainstream medicine... How could they work together? - Dr Daniel M. Ingram
This week's show is with Dr. Daniel M. Ingram, MD MSPH, a retired emergency medicine physician who works to improve the global relationship of science, clinical practice, mental health and the public to the phenomena that might be referred to as spiritual, meditative, energetic, mystical, psychedelic, magical, and related phenomena. To those ends, he is currently the founder, philanthropic supporter, and volunteer CEO and Board Chair of the Emergence Benefactors registered charity, and chief organizer and co-founder of the global Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium. He is currently involved in neurophenomenological research of advanced meditative states with colleagues at Harvard and has been a participant in numerous fMRI and EEG studies of advanced meditators, including at Harvard, Yale, U Mass, and Vanderbilt. He has published scientific articles in Pediatrics, Child Abuse and Neglect, and the Journal of Medical Toxicology. He is the author of Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha, co-author of The Fire Kasina, and co-founder of the Dharma Overground. His work has been featured in The New York Times, Esquire, Vice, Wired, BBC Radio 4, Evolving Dharma, American Dharma: Buddhism Beyond Modernity, Dan Harris’ 10% Happier Podcast, Slate Star Codex Blog, Buddha at the Gas Pump, Meaning of Life TV, Deconstructing Yourself, Spiritual Explained website, Guru Viking, Buddhist Geeks, Cosmic Tortoise, Startup Geometry, Imperfect Buddha Podcast, and many others. In this conversation, Daniel and Lian explored the intersection of magic, spirituality, science, and healthcare. Daniel shares his personal journey and the three aspects of himself that led him to explore this integration within and without via the work of the Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium, which aims to bridge the gap between the clinical mainstream and the emergent world. The conversation explores the importance of understanding phenomenology, establishing diagnostic categories, and conducting epidemiological studies. As well as the topics of neurodivergence and shamanic sickness, highlighting the need for understanding and support in these areas, and the challenges of recognising and relating to unusual experiences, as well as the tension between regulation and accessibility in alternative healing practices. Finally, Daniel shares his vision for the future, where knowledge and capabilities in these areas are equitably distributed and supported by scientific research. We’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below or share in our fb group. What you’ll learn from this episode: The integration of magic, spirituality, science, and healthcare can lead to transformative experiences and intentional healing. Understanding phenomenology and establishing diagnostic categories are crucial for bridging the gap between the clinical mainstream and the emergent world. Epidemiological studies can provide insights into the impact of transformative experiences on mental wellbeing and society. Special projects related to military, security, space, and big data require careful consideration and ethical approaches. Normalization and connection with others who have had similar experiences can be healing and provide support. Understanding and support for neurodivergence and shamanic sickness are important in the context of spiritual and mystical experiences. Recognizing and relating to unusual experiences can be challenging, but pattern recognition and training can help healthcare professionals provide better care. There is a tension between regulation and accessibility in alternative healing practices, and it is important to find a balance that allows for both safety and inclusivity. The vision for the future includes a global clinical mainstream that has a sophisticated understanding of alternative healing practices and the ability to provide equitable access to knowledge and support. Resources and stuff spoken about: If you want to focus on my scientific work related to spirituality and the organization I help support: Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium The EPRC YouTube Channel Emergence Benefactors If you want to focus on my work related to meditation practice and its effects: Daniel M. Ingram YouTube Channel Mastering The Core Teachings of Buddha For Boo For Books: Fire Kasina: The Fire Kasina Meditation Site for books and more on meditation Daniels Personal Website: Integrated Daniel Daniels Online Community: The Dharma Overground Be Mythical Join our mailing list: https://www.bemythical.com/moonly UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union: Doors opening soon! To get your special invitation register HERE. Go Deeper: https://www.bemythical.com/godeeper Follow us: Facebook Instagram TikTok YouTube Thank you for listening! There's a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each episode delivered to your device every week automagically (that way you'll never miss an episode).

Mar 12, 2024 • 58min
Do you navigate by morals or ethics? How to live well - Erik Jampa Andersson Part 2
Erik Jampa Andersson and Lian explore morals and ethics, highlighting the subjective nature of morality and the impact of vertical morality. They discuss the role of empathy in ethical decision-making, the power of storytelling, and the importance of understanding the complexities of modern living. Join them for insights on living well and fostering compassionate relationships.

Mar 6, 2024 • 1h 16min
Remembering: Being human in a more than human world - Erik Jampa Andersson
This week’s show is with the amazing Erik Jampa Andersson. Erik Jampa Andersson is the founder and director of Shrimala, an author, a London-based practitioner, teacher, and scholar of Tibetan Medicine (Sowa Rigpa), Tibetan Buddhism, and Environmental History. He is a graduate of the Shang Shung Institute School of Tibetan Medicine, and recently completed his MA in History at Goldsmiths University, where his research focused on the historical intersection of ecology, health, and mythology in a more-than-human world. He is the author of Unseen Beings: How We Forgot the World is More Than Human (Hay House, May 2023). In this conversation, Erik and Lian explored the hierarchical way humans relate to non-humans (especially in relation to people getting into Shamanism or Jungian approaches). Erik shared his journey through Tibetan Buddhism and into a more immanent approach. They explored the significance of storytelling and fantasy in reclaiming enchantment and fostering a more animistic worldview, emphasising the importance of recognising the personhood of non-human beings and the need to break free from an anthropocentric worldview. They both spoke of the recognition of animism as a foundational way of experiencing the world and the importance of preserving unbroken animistic traditions. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: Recognise the personhood of non-human beings and embrace the relational experience of enchantment, developing an animistic worldview that acknowledges the diversity and continuity of beingness. Engage in storytelling and fantasy to reclaim enchantment and challenge our conditioned anthropocetric worldview. Preserve and learn from unbroken animistic traditions while being cautious of cultural erasure. Learn from wisdom holders and engage with their knowledge with gratitude and humility, whilst approaching traditional systems with pragmatism and nuance, adapting them to your own life and circumstances rather than taking them on in a way that doesn’t take into account the change in context. Focus on building meaningful relationships with others, including non-human beings - this is something we focus on in an upcoming episode Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Visit Erik’s Website: shrimala.com erikjampa.com Be Mythical is soon opening the doors to our new academy of alchemical arts - UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union... To get your special invitation register HERE. Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Feb 27, 2024 • 1h 1min
How to balance the path of oneness with discovering the uniqueness of our souls - Ian Watson
Explore the balance between spiritual transcendence and personal identity, integrating spiritual experiences with earthly existence. Reflect on interconnectedness with the universe and the uniqueness of individual life paths. Dive into Greek mythology's contrasting energies of Apollo and Dionysus, and the delicate balance between spirituality and materialism. Delve deep into esoteric beliefs of Steiner, embracing the sacredness of earth and body in living a spiritual life.

Feb 20, 2024 • 59min
How to journey with myth for self-illumination and healing - Ian Watson
This week’s show is with Ian Watson. Ian is an educator, author and facilitator who has worked in the field of well-being, holistic healing and inner transformation since 1988. He has travelled extensively giving seminars, courses and retreats around the world. Ian became widely known as a speaker and writer in homeopathy, which he taught and practised until 2003. He subsequently trained in a wide variety of psychological and emotional healing disciplines in the following decade. Ian has been a lifelong student of the work of Joseph Campbell, Carl Jung and the great spiritual traditions of the world, taoism and zen buddhism in particular. In 2011 he discovered the work of Sydney Banks which has been pivotal in aligning his psychological and spiritual understanding together with his holistic approach to health and healing. In this conversation, Ian and Lian journeyed into the topic of myth as a path of self-illumination and healing, our own stories of discovering the power of myth, some of the myths that have called us to work with them, and the ways that anyone called to myth and self-knowledge can journey deeper. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: The mythical worldview is one that comes naturally for humans, we are conditioned out of it but can reclaim it - we just need to pay attention and heed the call Notice what resonates for you and trust it is the path to gold, this is a journey of the heart, not the head alone Value and prioritise your time in non-ordinary consciousness, day dreams, night dreams, and trance, and working with the symbols that arise. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Details of Ian’s work can be found at www.theinsightspace.com Be Mythical is soon opening the doors to our new academy of alchemical arts - UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union... To get your special invitation register HERE. Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian and Jonathan

Feb 15, 2024 • 51min
How to invoke the power of intention for healing - Dr. Helané Wahbeh
This week’s show is with Dr. Helané Wahbeh. Helané is the Director of Research at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and an adjunct assistant professor in the Department of Neurology at Oregon Health & Science University. Dr. Wahbeh is clinically trained as a naturopathic physician and research trained with a Master of Clinical Research and two post-doctoral research fellowships. Recently named President of the Parapsychological Association, she has published on and spoken internationally about her studies on complementary and alternative medicine, mind-body medicine, extended human capacities, stress, posttraumatic stress disorder, and their relationships to physiology, health, and healing. Dr. Wahbeh is especially known for her research around — and noetic approach to — channeling. She is the author of some 90+ peer-reviewed publications, the new book The Science of Channeling: Why You Should Trust Your Intuition and the Force That Connects Us All and Free To Be Me: A Journey of Transformation through Generational Healing. In this show, Helané and Lian explored the topics of telepathy, precognition, and intention - specifically through the lens of harnessing those abilities in the healing arts. Helané shared research on telephone telepathy, where people accurately guess who is calling them above chance, and the power of bringing focused positive intention to support others' health. They also spoke about the unique ways individuals express their intuitive wisdom - although these are abilities we can see in many humans, some do have a genetic propensity to be especially strong in certain abilities - and that’s something we can train and hone too. We’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: Telepathy is the communication of impressions from one mind to another that is independent of recognized channels of sense. Research shows that telephone telepathy is a common phenomenon, with people accurately guessing who is calling them above chance. Intention plays a significant role in healing and can be used to support others' health and well-being. The Noetic Signature explores the unique ways individuals express their intuitive gifts, but it’s important to recognise that it seems that everyone has the capacity to tap into this wisdom. Using focused positive intention can influence the physical world and contribute to creating a world of peace, love, and freedom for all. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Institute of Noetic Sciences Research Free To Be Me: A Journey of Transformation through Generational Healing The Science of Channeling: Why You Should Trust Your Intuition and the Force That Connects Us All Be Mythical is soon opening the doors to our new academy of alchemical arts - UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union... To get your special invitation register HERE. Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian and Jonathan

Feb 6, 2024 • 53min
How to honour the magical heritage of the sister islands of Britain and Ireland - Caitlin Matthews
This week’s show is with Caitlin Matthews. Caitlin is an internationally renowned author, a teacher of shamanic training programme, a facilitator of Systemic Ritual® and the co-founder of the Foundation for Inspirational and Oracular Studies (FÍOS). Caitlín Matthews is the author of over 80 books, including Diary of a Soul Doctor, Singing the Soul Back Home, the Art of Celtic Seership, Celtic Devotional and The Celtic Book of the Dead. Her books have won a number of awards. She is known internationally for her work on the spiritual, mythic and ancestral traditions of Britain and Ireland. She teaches and works with communities and spiritual institutions worldwide from Iceland to Portugal and from USA to Australia. Caitlín is a co-founder of the Foundation for Inspirational and Oracular Studies (FÍOS), which is dedicated to the sacred arts that shape the landscape of the soul, via vision, dream and memory. FÍOS hosts masterclasses with exemplars of living, oracular sacred traditions that are rarely recorded in writing or given an honourable place in modern society. Caitlín has had a shamanic healing practice in Oxford for the last 30 years, working in the community to deepen connections to the ancestral traditions which are our heritage. In this conversation, Caitlin and Lian dived deep the importance of reconnecting with ancestral traditions for those of us who are change-workers and healers. They discussed the power of perception, the call to shamanism, and the role of myth, symbol and metaphor in healing. Caitlin emphasised the importance of voice and singing in ancestral traditions and the fear that often surrounds it. They also explored the unique qualities of the islands and the importance of being rooted in the land. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: Perception plays a crucial role in shamanic experiences, allowing individuals to perceive things and in ways that others may not be able to. The call to shamanism often comes in a way that gets our attention and may not be comfortable, but it is a powerful and transformative journey. Connecting with ancestral traditions and the land is essential in shamanic practice, as it provides a deep sense of rootedness and connection. The power of voice and singing is a central aspect of ancestral traditions, and overcoming the fear of singing can be a transformative experience. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: For Caitlin’s books & courses see: www.hallowquest.org.uk For Caitlin’s more writing on a range of topics, including a year-long course, Blessings of the Celtic Year, see her Hallowquest Sanctuary at www.hallowquest.substack.com Be Mythical is soon opening the doors to our new academy of alchemical arts - UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union... To get your special invitation register HERE. Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian and Jonathan

Feb 1, 2024 • 55min
The powerful role of the mythical worldview in change work - Joshua Michael Schrei
This week’s show is with Joshua Michael Schrei, a writer, a teacher, the founder and host of The Emerald podcast. The Emerald combines evocative narrative, soul-stirring music, and interviews with award-winning authors and luminaries to explore the human experience through a vibrant lens of myth, story, and imagination. The Emerald draws from a deep well of poetry, lore, and mythos to challenge conventional narratives on politics and public discourse, meditation and mindfulness, art, science, literature, and more. A writer, teacher, and a lifelong student of the cosmologies and mythologies of the world — in particular the Indian subcontinent — Josh has sought to navigate the living, animate space of the imagination and advocate for a world that prioritizes imaginative vision. Josh has taught intensive courses in mythology and somatic disciplines for nearly 20 years. In this conversation, Joshua and Lian journeyed into exploring the role of the mythopoetic worldview in change work, i.e. for those of us healing and guiding others. We discuss the importance of myth and the animistic worldview but also that it’s the one that humans have held for the vast majority of our time on earth, the need to go beyond intellectual analysis and engage in practical actions and offerings to establish a deeper relationship with the living forces around us, and the challenges of bridging the gap between Western analytical approaches and the embodied knowing of mythic work. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you’ll learn from this episode: Myth is not an abstract concept but a living reality that can be experienced through practical actions and offerings. Engaging with myth and the animistic worldview requires a shift in consciousness and a recognition of our relational responsibility to the living world. The Western worldview often separates us from the animate world, but our ancestors lived in deep reciprocal relationship with the land and its beings. Symbols and archetypes are not mere abstractions but tangible forces that can be experienced and engaged with in a direct and practical way. Forgetting and remembering our connection to the animate world is a continuous process that requires humility and openness to new experiences. Seek out spaces and practices that offer tangible spiritual experiences. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: To find out more about Joshua's work, visit The Emerald Podcast at: patreon.com/theemeraldpodcast Be Mythical is soon opening the doors to our new academy of alchemical arts - UNIO: The Academy of Sacred Union... To get your special invitation register HERE. Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian and Jonathan

Jan 24, 2024 • 1h 9min
Being mythical: The path of living your soul's truth - Lian Brook-Tyler and Jonathan Wilkinson
This was the first episode of the new Be Mythical podcast with Lian and Jonathan. In this conversation, we discuss the launch of all things Be Mythical, including the work of living your soul’s truth, the challenges faced by old souls in the modern world and the need to reconnect with nature and rewild oneself, the power of community and ritual in the journey of self-discovery. We also shared more details about the upcoming Mythical Academy and improvements to this show. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Register your interest in the new academy HERE Thank you for listening! There’s a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every week automagically (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Lian and Jonathan