
Be Mythical
The Be Mythical podcast is a top 1.5% globally ranked show for old souls in this new world to be inspired, guided, and activated by deep, soul-stirring explorations with remarkable thinkers, wisdom keepers, visionaries, and healers about how to overcome the greatest challenge of your life… To become your unique medicine and actualise your own soul’s myth.
Old souls are the ones who came here in these crazy modern times to do vital work in service of Spirit and their communities… typically as spiritual practitioners, coaches, innovators, disruptors, healers, teachers, medicine people, and visionary leaders.
We’ve been running since 2014 so there are hundreds of mythical, magical, and mystical episodes to choose from that weave together ancient ways for modern days… shamanism, archetypal work, rewilding, embodiment, alchemy, psychedelics and plant medicine, astrology, non-dual spirituality, shadow work, and so much more.
In short, Be Mythical is the antidote for old souls struggling to find their way in this new world.
Listen now to join us for the mythical adventure that your soul has been calling you into.
Our love and blessings,
Lian & Jonathan
Latest episodes

Aug 18, 2022 • 59min
How to guide children into connection with nature, spirit and magic - Huw Mackin
This week's show is with Huw Mackin. Huw Mackin is a British Shamanic practitioner, residential child practitioner, a highly qualified outdoor professional, international mountain leader, natural horse handler, bushcraft and survival expert, and above all else, a father. Huw came from a long profession working with emotionally traumatised children and young people for local authorities and other institutions. Inspired by the shortcomings of these institutions, Huw created long term immersive wilderness based programs for local authorities focused on rehabilitating children deemed ‘unreachable’, with great success. The progression of Huw’s professional career, along with his own personal healing journey, and the realisation that the problems facing humanity today stem from a lost connection with the natural world, inspired Huw to launch his company: Primal Healing, which offers a range of healings, expeditions, courses and programs designed to support people back into relationship with the natural world, one of which being ‘Wildlings school of Woodcraft & Wiccary’, the UK’s first animistic nature based school for children. Taking inspiration from present day indigenous tribal cultures, folklore, mythology, this land’s history and our ancestral spiritual heritage, Huw created Wildlings School, offering children a greater understanding of how to maintain a direct and boundless relationship with this truly magical world through exploration and play. Wildlings School of Woodcraft and Wiccary - where folklore is law, magic is real and everything is possible. In this show, we spoke about... children and animism. We explored Huw's own challenges in childhood, including spending time in care, and the way his connection with nature was so important to him; his journey to this point of working with children and introducing them to Spirit via nature; and finally, Huw shared some practical ways, care givers can introduce children to this path. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: I loved what Huw said about how children are naturally immersed in a magical world and then as adults, we feel a deep yearning for it - guiding our children to create a relationship to nature as the tangible face of Spirit allows them to never grow out of magic. Whilst nature connection via rewilding can be beneficial, what are we connecting to? Communing with nature as an intentional opening to Spirit is what allows all of us to reclaim the deeply connected way of living that is our heritage and birthright. Be led by the child. Adopt a spot - in the garden or somewhere on local land, build a relationship with it, making offerings, and share stories about the myths of the land. Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Wildlings School of Woodcraft & Wiccary Official Website Wildlings School of Woodcraft & Wiccary Instagram: @wildlings_school Follow Huw in Social Media: Instagram: @huwmackin Facebook: Huw Mackin Thank you for listening! There’s fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Tuesday (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Podcasts/iTunes Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Aug 3, 2022 • 56min
What near death experiences teach us about living more beautiful lives - Dr. Bruce Greyson
This week's show is with Dr. Bruce Greyson. Dr. Bruce Greyson is Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at the University of Virginia School of Medicine. He was a co-founder and President of the International Association for Near-Death Studies, and Editor of the Journal of Near-Death Studies. Dr. Greyson has published more than a hundred scholarly articles about near-death experiences in peer-reviewed medical journals and three academic books. He has addressed more than a hundred national and international professional conferences. His research for the past four decades has focused on near-death experiences and particularly their after-effects and implications. His book, After: A Doctor Explores What Near- Death Experiences Reveal about Life and Beyond, is his first trade book bringing his scientific research to a popular audience. In this conversation, Dr. Greyson and I explored what NDEs teach us about life. We talked about experiences people have, the research that shows what might be creating these experiences, and what happens to people afterwards. We explore why understanding NDE could benefit us all. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: The evidence on NDE shows that what takes place can't solely be explained by a shutting down of the brain - as Bruce said, it's really a combination of that and something else that shows that consciousness isn't created in the brain Bruce said that the thing he hears over and over from people who have had NDE is that they say they now understand why there's The Golden Rule in all religions: "Do unto others and you would have done unto you", it's because whatever we do to others, we do to ourselves because we're ultimately all one We don't have to have a NDE personally in order to benefit from them, simply learning about NDE and what they suggest about our universe, can in itself bring a deeper sense of peace and security Resources and stuff that we spoke about Dr. Bruce Greyson Official Website Dr. Bruce Greyson Book: After: A Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond Links to published resources: Dr. Greyson’s published articles on NDEs The Handbook of Near-Death Experiences: Thirty Years of Investigation The Journal of Near-Death Studies Thank you for listening! There's fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Thursday (that way you'll never miss an episode): Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Jul 28, 2022 • 58min
How women can help men grow and heal - Debbie Beauchamp and Gina Holland
This week's show is with Debbie Beauchamp and Gina Holland. Debbie Beauchamp and Gina Holland are both Co-directors of Celebration of Being Limited. Debbie has been involved with Celebration of Being since 2003 and facilitates the workshops with Gina. She holds the vision and management of COB and is passionate about sharing this work with others. She is an accredited counsellor and family constellation facilitator working with individuals, couples and children. She is mother to three beautiful daughters and has a wealth of training and life experience to draw on in her work. Debbie specializes in working with Trauma and its impact on people’s way of being in the world. She support’s people to reclaim and integrate aspects of themselves and remember their essence and access their magnificence so they can create a life that expresses all of who they are. This allows them to shine and radiate their love to make a difference in the world and inspire others to do the same. Gina, on the other hand has been involved with Celebration of Being since 1999. She facilitates the workshops with Debbie. She is a qualified counsellor and has been practicing for over 20 years; her methods and skills are deeply rooted in her own life experience and ongoing personal development. As a lover of truth and a devotee of reality, she loves to support others in living an authentic and passionate existence, embracing the divine with-in the ordinary and integrating this into everyday life. Her life’s purpose, along with being a conscious mother and grandmother, is reminding others of their true nature by continuously pointing towards what is ever present and already free. Her love of presence and passion for community continues to inspire and motivate her life’s work with individuals, groups and with-in the beautiful, loving and expanding Celebration of Being community in the UK. In this conversation, we spoke about the power of women holding space for and supporting men to heal, which was inspired by a line on their website: "A loving compassionate woman can reconnect a man to his greatness faster than any other force in the world.", we spoke about the power of circle, rites of passage and creating spaces of love and acceptance within which men can heal. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: Debbi and Gina provide the womb-like space of acceptance, warmth and compassion that provides the safety that allows men to drop their coping mechanisms and do the healing work they need So much of trauma is pre-verbal and in order to get access to the place it's held often requires the help of The Mystery, of Spirit, to work through us, even if we can't fully understand how it works There's a lot in the media now about how women have been wounded by men, and yet Debbi and Gina have seen so many examples of where men have been wounded by women and the impact that's had on them. Because of the cultural narrative, it can be challenging for men to find spaces to share their experiences but it's so healing when they can I loved what Debbie said about how when men experience women being devotional, honouring and respectful, it activates something in them that allows them to have a different experience of the Masculine and themselves as men Resources and stuff that we spoke about Celebration of Being Official Website Thank you for listening! There's a fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Thursday (that way you'll never miss an episode): Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

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Jul 24, 2022 • 1h 19min
How to use human design to create more loving relationships - Damien Bohler
In this lively discussion, Damien Bohler, founder of Evolutionary Relating, dives into the transformative power of human design in relationships. He shares how understanding our unique traits can foster deeper intimacy and empathy. The conversation highlights the importance of self-acceptance and celebrating differences rather than conforming to societal norms. Damien also explores the dynamics of various human design types and the unique roles they play in building harmonious connections. Get ready to rethink how you relate to yourself and others!

Jul 7, 2022 • 53min
How to recognise the tests of expansion and not go into contraction - Lian Brook-Tyler
This week’s show is Lian’s All The Everything where she jams on an eclectic mix of topics, including questions from listeners. The LIVE making of the show is recorded in our Facebook group and for the first 30mins before Lian hits the record button you are invited to a pre-show party to get up close and personal with Lian and have your questions on the month’s topic answered. To receive a reminder of when the pre-show party and LIVE making of All The Everything is happening, make sure you’re subscribed to our email list and are a member of the Facebook group. In this episode, I dived deep into the topic: How to recognise the tests of expansion and not go into contraction Resources and stuff that I spoke about: Here are links to a few podcast episodes on shadow: The Shadow Pole: Do you know when your actions are still coming from fear? How to work with your Shadow Needs to illuminate soul and spirit How to navigate the shadow of the Masculine & Feminine polarity world How to create your life through magic, shadow work and personal story What gold is buried deep in your shadow How to go into your shadow to find the gold Sovereignty as a way to stop playing small: You’re not helpless, you’re powerful! The Primal Happiness fb group Subscribe to the Moonly News Go deeper Thank you for listening! There’s fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Tuesday (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Jul 4, 2022 • 55min
How to raise children with a magical perspective on life - John Patrick Morgan
This week's show is with John Patrick Morgan. John Patrick is a Philosopher and Champion for Being whose life purpose is to serve the one person in front of him, right here and right now. To see them fully, to create who they are and to make a meaningful difference for them honestly and completely. He leads a team of Creating Champions who teach, coach, and guide thousands of entrepreneurs and artists in being more free, loving, and powerful. By learning and embodying the Creating perspective, their clients achieve a union of outcomes in spiritual growth, material success, and social impact. The foundation of John Patrick Morgan’s role as a philosopher, teacher, and guide, is his being a real-world practitioner. He walks his talk, lives what he teaches, and has a genuine and powerful commitment to creating everybody. Post his formal studies in Physics and Mathematics, John Patrick built multiple small businesses (including one from a laptop and a backpack before the term ‘digital nomad’ existed), developed real estate, traveled the world for years on end, coached human rights leaders, recorded albums & toured with his band, created a kids library in Cambodia, learned to scuba dive & pilot gliders, published writing and photography, competed as a black belt & triathlete, trained with Buddhist monks in India, cycled toured for months and many other adventures. In recent years, his adventures have turned inward as his family came to be. He and his wife now reside with their two young boys in the countryside at 4000′ on a mountain in Maui. Beyond his the daily work with clients, he has been invited to share his ideas and spirit on numerous stages. (TEDx, Global Citizens Forum, BBC & SkyTV, YES Group, Interesting Talks London, InsideOut Movement, METal International, educational institutions, etc.) At a private event, attended by many of the world’s billionaires, JP was invited to speak on creating a world world without borders. At the University of Cambridge, he was the subject of a covert study between the psychology and business departments where researchers sought to understand the impact of his state of being. In this conversation, a part two to our last episode about magic, John Patrick and I explored the topic of magic when it comes to children - how we can parent in a way that both allows children to retain their natural sense of magic and possibility, and at the same time, gives them an understanding of what we might call our cultural "agreed upon reality", holding both lightly as we do. We spoke about all kinds of examples, including personal stories from our own families. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: I loved the example of dragons and dinosaurs that JP gave - this is such a great metaphor for how we can hold and teach so many things to our children. Whether we're talking about a rational reality or a magical one - there's benefit in holding both lightly with the openness to possibility, knowing that we don't know what we don't know. Children are naturally very open to magic and archetypes, in the form of role-playing super heroes, our role is to help them to continue to stay open to magic so that one day they can create with it as adults Resources and stuff that we spoke about https://primalhappiness.co/godeeper/ Facebook.com/jpmorgancreating Instagram.com/jpmorganjr LinkedIn.com/in/jpmorganjr YouTube.com/jpmorganjr Thank you for listening! There's fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Thursday (that way you'll never miss an episode): Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Jun 25, 2022 • 1h 17min
What shamanic wisdom has to teach us about healing mental illness - Jez Hughes
This week's show is with Jez Hughes. Jez Hughes is a British shaman, having studied intensively the path of shamanism for 30 years. His healing journey began when, as a teenager, he experienced a fit that propelled him into an altered state of consciousness. It took a long time to integrate that experience and find healing for the physical and mental disturbances it initiated. This journey that he now understands as a shamanic one lasted for around 17 years and took him through healing and spiritual traditions across the earth until he finally came home to shamanism and found practical methods to cure himself. He has studied with various teachers and indigenous elders across the world. Jez's work has featured in the national press, as well as TV and radio and magazines including Sacred Hoop, Natural Health, Kindred Spirit and Soul & Spirit. His first book, The Heart of Life – Shamanic Initiation and Healing in the Modern World, was published in 2015 and his new book The Wisdom of Mental Illness – Shamanism, Mental Health and the Renewal of the World was published by Watkins. Jez’s passion is empowering people to reawaken their ancestors, the land where they reside and their spiritual heritages to heal the relationship between the human and natural world. In this conversation, Jez and I explored shamanic wisdom when it comes to mental illness. We spoke about how out of balance with the natural world we are as a culture and how that manifests as mental illness, amongst other things, that although we tend to see mental illness as a personal issue, its really a cultural issue being expressed though individuals, and lastly, how some form of more extreme mental illness may actually be shamanic sickness - seen as an important and necessary part of the initiation of indigenous shamans. And we ended the show with Jez giving some practical suggestions for moving towards balance and healing. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: Our modern culture doesn't really understand that there's a balance that's out of balance, so its no wonder we are where we are when it comes to so many things, and especially mental health. For us to understand there's a natural balance between humans and the unseen powers behind nature, allows us to begin the work of returning to balance. As you heard, Jez was not saying that all forms of mental health issues are shamanic sickness - and yet, it's important to understand that some may well be, that gives context and meaning that can be healing in and of itself, both for the person and ultimately the community they'll serve to bring back into balance. Jez suggested going into nature and making offerings and also building and sitting with a fire... these are ways to bring us back to our bodies and begin to create balance, however small, with the natural world. Resources and stuff that we spoke about Jez's Official Website: Second Sight Healing Jez's Book Follow Jez's in Social Media Facebook Account Facebook Page Twitter Youtube Channel Thank you for listening! There's fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Thursday (that way you'll never miss an episode): Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Jun 13, 2022 • 54min
How you can find the buried treasure of your soul - Chris Lüttichau
This week's show is with Chris Lüttichau. Chris is the founder of Northern Drum Shamanic Centre, a UK-based educational organisation offering a renewed perspective on traditional shamanic and medicine teachings, and a safe grounding from which to learn them established in 1998. He is the keeper of an integral body of teachings that he shares in workshops and ongoing training groups. The teachings cover a broad range of topics from healing and the art of dreaming to spirit contact and the way of the council. Chris is the author of the critically acclaimed book on shamanism 'Calling Us Home – Find Your Path, Your Balance and Your Inner Strength' published in 2017 and 'Animal Spirit Guides: Discover your Power Animal and the Shamanic Path' published 2009. He is an international teacher, and has appeared on TV on BBC 1, and in Denmark on TV2, and has given radio interviews in the USA, Canada, and the UK. In this show, Chris and Lian spoke about soul from a shamanic perspective, what it is, what our cultural lack of awareness of soul is creating, the possibility of a more beautiful life from soul and how we can bridge that gap. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: In shamanic traditions, the soul is of vital importance in living well, the danger otherwise is we'll live from our minds, disconnected from everything else - which is of course, where we've found ourselves culturally As you could probably hear, it really hit me when Chris said that we're all seeking something, not realising what we're seeking is our soul I read a quote by Stuart Douglas: “In the closing remarks of my first book, white Bird, Black serpent, Red Book, I noted that Jung had admitted that he felt that he had failed in what he considered to be his principal task: to awaken people to the fact that they have a soul, which he likened to a treasure buried in a field. I suggested that there was no failure on Jung’s part, rather, the failure was on the part of others for not having fully realised what his life’s work was really all about.“ To find that treasure and bridge the gap of a soulless life to one lived from soul, it can be as simple as allowing the resonance you can feel in your heart to guide you on the path to retrieve it... whether that's through nature-based paths, shamanism, shadow work or joining us in a WTW crucible Resources and stuff that we spoke about: Northern Drum Shamanic Centre Chris Lüttichau Books: Calling Us Home – Find Your Path, Your Balance and Your Inner Strength Animal Spirit Guides: Discover your Power Animal and the Shamanic Path Chris Lüttichau Facebook accounts: Chris Lüttichau Northern Drum Thank you for listening! There’s fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Tuesday (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Podcasts/iTunes Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

Jun 10, 2022 • 1h 1min
The Shadow Pole: Do you know when your actions are still coming from fear? - Lian Brook-Tyler
This week’s show is Lian’s All The Everything where she jams on an eclectic mix of topics, including questions from listeners. The LIVE making of the show is recorded in our Facebook group and for the first 30mins before Lian hits the record button you are invited to a pre-show party to get up close and personal with Lian and have your questions on the month’s topic answered. To receive a reminder of when the pre-show party and LIVE making of All The Everything is happening, make sure you’re subscribed to our email list and are a member of the Facebook group. In this episode, I dived deep into the topic: The Shadow Pole: Do you know when your actions are still coming from fear? Resources and stuff that I spoke about: Waking The Wild Sovereign The Primal Happiness fb group Go deeper Thank you for listening! There’s fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you’ll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Tuesday (that way you’ll never miss an episode): Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Android Thank you! Lian & Jonathan

May 31, 2022 • 54min
How to use intimacy to create a more beautiful world - Damien Bohler
This week's show is with Damien Bohler. Damien is the founder and current director of Evolutionary Relating - an educational platform dedicated to transforming culture through evolving the way we relate to ourselves, to each other, to vocation and purpose and the natural world. In his core he is an investigator. He is deeply fascinated by the way things work in this human realm. His interests span the exploration of intimacy, love, sexuality, attachment, polarity, human design, integral theory, permaculture, community living and more. His gift is in the ability to synthesise, articulate and transmit dense and disparate information and delights in doing so through the mediums of writing, facilitating, teaching and coaching. In this conversation, Damien and I explored the possibility of using portal of intimacy to create the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible, as Charles Eisenstein says. We spoke about why we're so obsessed with relationships, the wounds that keep us from experiencing what we most desire, how healing those wounds opens us to create a more connected, loving world. I’d love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below. What you'll learn from this episode: I love that Damien's work with intimacy, stemmed from his deepest passion of ecology The notion of Telos is one that I believe we begin to experience for ourselves once we devote to living from soul - it becomes the north star than guides us from acorn to oak When we heal our childhood attachment wounds, we become available to create partnerships as the column that true community forms around and then that opens us up to connection with everything Resources and stuff that we spoke about Sign up for ‘love letters from Damien’ emails, and check out courses on offer here: Evolutionary Relating Follow Damien in Social Media: Instagram: @evorelating Facebook: Damien Bohler Thank you for listening! There's fresh episode each week, if you subscribe then you'll get each new episode delivered to your phone every Thursday (that way you'll never miss an episode): Thank you! Lian & Jonathan