

Masters of Moments
Jake Wurzak
Masters of Moments involves conversations with top entrepreneurs and business leaders about hospitality, Real Estate investing, and company building. We explore the ideas, strategies, and approaches that brought them to where they are today. This podcast is for you if you are a seasoned investor, an upstart entrepreneur, or someone looking to break into the real estate and hospitality investing world. Jake Wurzak is the CEO of DoveHill Capital Management and Wurzak Hotel Group, a leading vertically integrated hospitality investment platform. Since 2011, he’s led the investment of $1.5 billion in hotel assets throughout the country. Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JWurzak Take the Hospitality Real Estate Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzvzdJASDiEXhV9VhkaEoWA Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://dovehillcos.junipersquare.com/portal/view_lead_capture_form/MzhmOGE4MTUwMjZhNDZkNmU1MGE0NmYwOTdhZjk2MzAxYzE0MjIzMGdBV1ZEUUFBQUFBQUFBQW9UVzhJVFdzTlRrNkpkSlF1 DoveHill: www.dovehillcos.com
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Jul 12, 2023 • 1h 22min
#21: Chris Frampton - CEO of East West Partners
As Managing Partner, Chris oversees all of the company’s development and sales activities. With East West pioneering new communities in Charleston, Denver, Snowmass, Deer Valley and Kauai, Chris works with folks from coast to coast and helps guide these destinations toward the future. From his perspective, the agenda is actually quite simple, “We build places that put people first, where the experience drives design and sustainability governs construction techniques.” Chris is a founding member and the board President for the Civic Center Conservancy, the City of Denver’s private partner at Civic Center Park. He is also Board Chair for the Rocky Mountain chapter of the Young Presidents’ Organization, and a member of the Board of Governors’ for the Denver Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce. On this episode, Jake & Chris discuss: - how they find deals - East West's acquisition process - setting up multiple offices to enhance the development flow - the difference between condos & hotels how to make it work - large scale resort development - managing risk Connect & Invest with Jake Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jwurzak Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://bit.ly/3yg8Pwo Links: Chris on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/cframpton1/ East West Partners: https://www.ewpartners.com/ Petit St. Vincent - https://www.petitstvincent.com/ Cayo Espanto Beliz - https://aprivateisland.com/ The Soho Grand NYC - https://www.sohogrand.com/ One Hotel Hanalei Bay - https://www.1hotels.com/hanalei-bay Topics: (00:02:05) Chris’ career in real estate (00:12:17) East West’s focus on providing value to buyers (00:16:39) East West’s PM approach (00:19:51) An inside look at the 3 companies within EastWest (00:26:08) How has the organization changed in your time there? (00:30:19) How did you expand to all these different markets while maintaining the core value of living where you work? (00:35:04) What incentives worked when giving ownership to employees? (00:38:35) How have you been able to survive real estate cycles and maintain a massive development pipeline? (00:43:17) Fee Development for another party (00:49:15) Is there room for more master resorts? (00:51:32) What was your greatest investment? (00:54:24) How are you capitalizing deals? (00:57:02) How do you approach reporting? (01:01:18) Is there a mistake that you made that lingers for you? (01:04:09) How are you managing risk through the acquisition pipeline? (01:11:17) How do you structure a Condo Hotel? (01:19:28) What is your favorite hotel?

Jul 5, 2023 • 1h 18min
#20: Glenn Alba - Founder & CEO of Opterra Capital
Opterra Capital is real estate investment sponsor and operating partner, capital markets advisor, and asset manager with significant experience in all sectors of commercial real estate. Founded by Glenn Alba, a former Managing Director at Blackstone with over 23 years experience in real estate, Opterra Capital seeks to leverage this expertise towards value-add acquisition and proactive investment management to deliver attractive, risk-adjusted returns. Opterra’s core investment strategies focus on both value-add (opportunistic) and stabilized, income-oriented assets in the hospitality, office and multi-family sectors. Our approach seeks to capitalize on mid-market opportunities in the $25 -150 million range in the United States, Canada, and the Carribean. Our investment strategy is strongly influenced by our deep asset management experience to identify the proper capital repositioning, cost reduction and operating leverage opportunities inherent in each asset to maximize returns to investors. On this episode, Jake & Glenn discuss: Glenn's experience at Blackstone and it's influence on starting Opterra How they evaluate deals The 'no-assholes' policy Developing an asset management platform Acquisitions Links: Opterra Capital Glenn on LinkedIn Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jwurzak Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://bit.ly/3yg8Pwo Timecodes: (00:01:01) Glenn’s career at Blackstone and the decision to leave (00:06:39) Rolling the Blackstone mentality into Opterra (00:08:09) Glenn on falling in love with Hospitality (00:09:57) How Blackstone shaped Glenn’s Investment Perspective (00:13:02) How Opterra evaluates deals (00:16:54) Opterra’s capital strategy (00:19:15) Converting Office into a Luxury Hotel (00:23:49) Structuring a business to be focused on doing what you want to do (00:26:35) The ‘no-assholes’ policy (00:32:46) Post-Pandemic approach to doing deals (00:34:29) Qualities behind great RE investors and asset managers (00:39:01) Developing an asset management platform (00:44:11) Implementing processes at Opterra (00:49:19) Acquisitions processes (00:57:49) Areas in Hospitality ripe for disruption (01:04:56) How have the past 3 years informed your decisions for the next 5 years? (01:09:58) How do you know when to sell? (01:15:32) What’s your favorite hotel?

Jun 28, 2023 • 1h 20min
#19: Jeff Burns - CEO of Affiliated Development | The Future of Workforce Housing
Jeff Burns is the Founder and CEO of Affiliated Development, a real estate development company headquartered in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Mr. Burns has more than 15 years of experience in the acquisition, development, and finance of a wide array of property types in markets across the United States. With an extensive background and longstanding relationships, Mr. Burns has a proven track record to see real estate opportunities from conception through to reality. On this episode, Jeff & Jake discuss: How Affiliated works with city governments to develop workforce housing Raising capital Walkthrough of a typical deal Construction, design, and underwriting Links: Affiliated Development Jeff on LinkedIn The Dalmar Hotel Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jwurzak Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://bit.ly/3yg8Pwo Timestamps: (00:01:52) Jeff’s career (00:08:48) Choosing to play in the Multifamily asset class (00:14:41) Utilizing HUD loans (00:15:27) How do you find markets to enter? (00:18:44) How Jeff engages with city governments (00:21:17) Defining workforce housing (00:27:14) What incentives are you getting from cities and counties? (00:37:44 How are you raising capital? (00:46:01) How long does a typical deal take from start to finish? (00:48:30) How are you using your in-house architecture function? (00:53:46) How are you thinking about construction costs and design? (01:02:06) How are you underwriting deals? (01:10:30) How do you choose your property managers? (01:14:01) How do you approach inclusionary housing? (01:16:37) What is your favorite hotel?

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 25min
#18: Warren de Haan - Managing Partner & Co-CEO at ACORE Capital
Warren de Haan is a founder, Managing Partner and Co-Chief Executive Officer at ACORE Capital, LP, one of the largest credit managers focused on commercial real estate lending, with approximately $20 billion of assets under management. For the past 3 years, ACORE Capital has ranked in the top 20 of The Real Estate Debt 50, PERE's ranking of the world's largest real estate debt fund managers. Through their offices in New York, Los Angeles, Miami, San Francisco, and Dallas, ACORE originates, acquires and manages first mortgages, B-notes, mezzanine debt and preferred equity throughout the United States. Since inception in 2015, ACORE has closed over $35 billion in more than 453 transactions. On this episode, Jake and Warren discuss: Migration patterns influencing investments Building ACORE and their growth strategies How the lending environment will change in the future Links: ACORE Capital Warren on LinkedIn Four Seasons Surf Club Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jwurzak Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://bit.ly/3yg8Pwo Timestamps: (00:02:08) Warren’s move to Miami (00:06:21) Migration pattern influencing investments (00:09:00) Navigating Work From Home (00:12:10) Warren’s background, early career, and thoughts on today’s market (00:22:22) The regional banking crisis (00:27:43) Loan extension challenges (00:34:41) Why didn’t you end up in Hospitality? (00:38:19) The thesis for starting Acore (00:49:35) Challenges in scaling the org (01:02:22) Capital Deployment strategies (01:04:59) How Acore makes money (01:09:58) Opportunities for Sponsors to work with Acor (01:15:40) How lending will evolve over the next 5 years (01:17:15) What assets are you staying away from? (01:20:17) What is your favorite hotel?

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Jun 14, 2023 • 31min
#17: A Deep Dive on GP Fees
On this solo episode, Jake dives into GP fees. He explains why GPs should charge fees, the differences between deal shops and Real estate private equity firms, how to build great returns, the types of fees you will see from GPs, what to charge as a GP and more. Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jwurzak Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass: https://learn.jakewurzak.com/ Learn How to Invest with DoveHill: https://bit.ly/3yg8Pwo Timestamps (00:01:02) Why are we talking about Fees? (00:03:39) Why GPs charge fees (00:09:02) Deal shops vs. Real Estate Private Equity Firms (00:10:23) Charging market fees to build great returns & borrowing costs (00:14:45) Real Estate Operating Companies vs. Assets (00:17:15) Understanding where your company is at in it’s life cycle (00:18:42) Primary components and fees you’ll see (00:20:04) What to charge for and include in fees (00:22:10) Do not operate at a loss (00:23:08) Project Management vs. Asset Management (00:29:24) Final Thoughts

Jun 7, 2023 • 1h 14min
#16: Arash Azarbarzin - CEO of Highgate|Creating, Acquiring, and Scaling Brands
Arash Azarbarzin, CEO of Highgate, discusses creating amazing branded hotels, F&B strategies, working with Barry Sternlicht, acquiring and scaling brands, employee buy-in, optimal scale for business intelligence technology, and the future of branded hotels.

May 31, 2023 • 1h 28min
#15: Jay Shah - Executive Chairman of Hersha Hotels & Resorts | Building a REIT in Hospitality
Jay Shah, Executive Chairman of Hersha Hotels & Resorts, discusses building a REIT in hospitality, pros and cons of REITs, missed opportunities and biggest wins. They also touch on financing challenges when opening the first hotel in NYC, transitioning into full-service and lifestyle operations, the impact of COVID on the hospitality industry, and exploring new markets.

May 24, 2023 • 1h 26min
#14: Evan Schlecker - President of Morgan Group|Leadership in a Multifamily Behemoth
As President of Morgan Group, Evan Schlecker manages risk for Morgan with oversight over development and construction activities nationwide. Evan maintains involvement in all aspects of apartment development, construction, management, and finance. Evan serves as a member of Morgan’s Executive Committee and Investment Committee. Since joining Morgan in 2012, Evan has been involved in developing and acquiring over 7,000 units at a cost exceeding $1.8B. Prior to joining Morgan, Evan co-founded BlueRoot Partners to take advantage of opportunities to acquire distressed real estate. Evan began his career at Torchlight Investors (f/k/a ING Clarion) restructuring non-performing commercial real estate. On this episode, Jake and Evan discuss: How Morgan Group sources deals and develops assets How to enhance Multifamily assets Overseeing 20+ projects at one time The US Housing Shortage Mitigating risk during hold periods Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass Learn How to Invest with DoveHill Links Morgan Group Evan on LinkedIn Eagle Island Lodge, Botswana Timestamps (00:02:16) Evan’s career in Real Estate (00:11:02) Why Scale is important: Plentiful 3rd party Managers (00:15:21) Thoughts on market strategy (00:19:13) Being ‘Hyper-local’ in development and construction (00:22:00) Making the jump from being an entrepreneur to a Family business (00:25:06) Headline stats for Morgan Group (00:26:34) How Morgan sources deals and develops (00:35:57) Thoughts on Single Family Rentals & High-end rental projects (00:40:02) Adam Neumann (00:41:49) How to enhance Multifamily assets (00:43:32) The reality of overseeing 20 projects at once (00:48:55) What is the best way to mitigate risk during a hold period and structure deals? (00:52:33) Being a non-family member leading a Family Business (00:56:29) Thoughts on the Housing Shortage (01:01:20) What incentives are you setting up for team members? (01:09:31) Why do you self-perform? (01:13:20) Making money on the construction side of the business (01:17:20) How are you building the company to perform over the next 5 years? (01:23:44) What is your favorite hotel?

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May 17, 2023 • 1h 19min
#13: Jake Wurzak on The Fort Podcast - Hospitality Industry 101
This episode is an appearance Jake made on The Fort Podcast with Chris Powers. Jake and Chris discuss: How to create an exceptional hospitality experience How to underwrite hotel investment opportunities Partnering and learning from Barry Sternlicht How to add value to different types of hotels Links Check out Chris Powers and The Fort Podcast Hotel Bel-Air Brush Creek Ranch Blackberry Farm Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass Learn How to Invest with DoveHill Timestamps (00:03:14) How do you experience hotels? (00:05:14) What is Hospitality? (00:08:17) Jake’s journey into Hospitality (00:09:45) Jake’s Companies (00:11:36) Hospitality during Covid (00:21:42) How do branded hotels differentiate from each other? (00:23:12) What does great operation look like in a Commodity Hotel? (00:25:04) How are daily rates set? (00:32:39) Airbnb vs. Hotels (00:35:15) How do you define Lifestyle? (00:36:21) Who are people you admire in this industry? (00:39:02) Are there any emerging brands that will overtake the top luxury brands? (00:40:51) How would a hotel development come together? (00:44:19) What are you looking for in a hotel when you want to buy? (00:47:21) What’s a soft brand? (00:48:19) Do you need experience to partner with a Hilton or Marriott? (00:49:14) What does upgrading management look like? (00:54:34) What feedback do you see most often from guests? (00:57:48) Jake on partnering with Barry Sternlicht? (01;03:50) The One in Miami (01:07:56) How do you approach F&B? (01:09:30) What’s the greatest hotel in the world? (01:13:16) How do you view hotels as investable assets over the next 5 years? (01:16:19) Are there any new revenue streams on the horizon?

May 10, 2023 • 1h 16min
#12: John Meadow - Founder and President of LDV Hospitality|A Masterclass in Restaurant Building
John Meadow is the founder and president of LDV Hospitality, a boutique hospitality group that was founded on his realization of the ambition to bring the dream of “La Dolce Vita,” to everyday life. Focused on concept and business development, John drives the creative process for the company, envisioning restaurants and bringing them to life, as well as forging new partnerships with hotel developers to create bespoke food and beverage experiences for their guests. John began LDV in 2008, with critically acclaimed flagship Scarpetta restaurant, followed by signature brands American Cut and Dolce Italian. On this episode, Jake and John Discuss: Creating the Ultimate Dining Experience Building a Restaurant in Rome Scaling LDV to a Global level Leadership Lessons Links: LDV Hospitality: https://ldvhospitality.com/ Ralph’s Restaurant in Paris: https://www.ralphlauren.co.uk/en/global/ralphs-paris/7120 Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell: https://bit.ly/42k0AMX The Grand Hotel Parker's Naples Italy: https://en.grandhotelparkers.it/ Connect & Invest with Jake: Follow Jake on Twitter Take the Hospitality Investing Masterclass Learn How to Invest with DoveHill Timestamps: (00:02:14) - Introducing John & his journey into hospitality (00:06:26) - Early lessons on how to cultivate an experience in Hospitality (00:11:32) - What characteristics are you for in partners? (00:13:39) - How do you set the vision for a project? (00:16:05) - Scaling on a Global level (00:27:14) - What are the tipping points for restaurants in design that you implement every time? (00:31:35) - The changing way people engage with night life (00:34:37) - Membership concepts (00:37:54) - Designing a restaurant in Rome (00:53:07) - What would surprise listeners about your leadership style? (00:57:02) - Mentorship (01:01:36) - Can a chef own a truly successful restaurant for a long period? (01:04:17) - How have you managed to rebuild investor confidence and maintain relationships since the Pandemic? (01:10:51) - How do you utilize what you learn from traveling? (01:12:30) - What is your favorite hotel?