The Long Game

Allie Decker, David Ly Khim, Alex Birkett
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Sep 6, 2023 • 50min

Mis-Using Generative AI in Content Marketing, Improving Content Operations, and AI Becoming Marketers

In this episode, Sophia Solanki, the founder of Narrato, an AI content creation and collaboration platform discussed the evolution of content marketing and the role of generative AI tools in enhancing effectiveness and efficiency. Sophia emphasized the importance of human input and the need for marketing teams to focus on high-value content while using AI for less valuable tasks and also explored the use cases of AI in marketing, such as repurposing content, and the importance of understanding the target audience. Our conversation with Sophia Solanki was insightful and enlightening. It sheds light on the evolving landscape of content marketing and the role of AI in shaping its future. As we continue to explore these topics, it's clear that the success of content marketing lies in having a solid strategy and understanding the target audience, rather than relying solely on tools.TopicsThe Shift Towards Leaner Marketing Teams The Trend Toward Quality Content Repurposing Content with AI Building a Successful Content Strategy AI as a Marketer The Impact of AI Tools on Time to Market The Challenges and Strategies for Staying Focused in a Competitive Industry Building a Business with No Single RecipeBeing Open to Experimentation in Product BuildingShow LinksVisit NarratoConnect with Sophia Solanki on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Sep 1, 2023 • 1h 2min

Brand Building in E-commerce vs SaaS, Being a Weird Marketer, and Hiring Scrappy Marketers with Alexa Kilroy

In this episode, Alexa Kilroy, the Director of Marketing at stay.ai discussed her journey into marketing, her unique approach to learning and marketing, the importance of branding, the direction of marketing in the industry, building a B2B brand, prioritizing marketing initiatives, content marketing, staffing the marketing team, and the qualities they look for in marketers. She also touched on the connection between teaching and marketing and the challenges of dealing with notification fatigue. Alexa's journey from education to marketing is as fascinating as it is inspiring, and her unique approach to marketing is something I believe we can all learn from.TopicsTransition to Brand and Marketing Leadership The Weird Marketer Measuring Brand Efforts Marketing Strategies: Brand vs. Revenue FocusBuilding a B2B Brand in Today's WorldContent Marketing as a Revenue Driver Building an Adaptable Marketing Team CultureNotification Fatigue and the Need to Take a BreakThe Power of Being Authentic and True to OneselfShow LinksVisit stay.aiConnect with Alexa Kilroy on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Aug 30, 2023 • 1h 1min

Building a Differentiated Generative AI Product, Real AI Use Cases, and Making Content Quality Objective with Suzanne Kagan

Suzanne Kagan, VP of Marketing at Anyword, discusses the hype cycle of generative AI, content quality, expanding skill sets in marketing, and balancing work and parenthood.
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Aug 25, 2023 • 56min

Building a Cult Following in B2B and Revisiting Product Marketing as Your Industry Matures with Sandy Mangat

Sandy Mangat, Head of Marketing at Pocus, shares her background in product marketing and the journey into her role. They discuss the concept of product-led sales, the power of naming and branding, and creating a cult following for Pocus. The conversation also covers shifting positioning to a revenue data platform, the importance of mentors and advisors, and proactive engagement for customer success.
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Aug 23, 2023 • 49min

Kitchen Side: Marketers Aren't Storytellers, Hard Truths in SaaS, and SEO Signal vs Noise

Welcome to another insightful episode of the "Kitchen Side" series of the Long Game. Today, we delve into a thought-provoking discussion with Alex Birkett, Allie Decker, and David Ly Khim, the co-founders of Omniscient Digital. We explore various topics related to the marketing industry, with a particular focus on the role of storytelling in content marketing.They debate its significance, application in different contexts and its purpose in content marketing and touch on other topics such as CEO focus areas, hard truths in the SaaS industry, the importance of honesty and validation in marketing, the fear of failure, and taking risks, creating a culture that embraces failure, SEO tips, and the importance of understanding the reader's perspective in content creation.Listen and learn insights that will help you navigate the ever-changing landscape of digital marketing.TopicsThe Role of Storytelling in Content MarketingDebunking the Myth of Marketing as StorytellingUsing Personal Anecdotes in ContentDebating the Role of Storytelling in MarketingDefining A PlayersBuilding Systems and RedundancyThe importance of Taking Risks and Embracing FailureEncouraging Openness Around Failure in OrganizationsBalancing SEO and User ExperienceThe Challenge of Noise and Distractions in the IndustryShow LinksConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Allie Decker on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterWhat is Kitchen Side?One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.You understand how the sausage is made.As an agency ourselves, we’re working both on growing our clients’ businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Aug 18, 2023 • 1h 5min

Kyle Denhoff on HubSpot's New Media Strategy, Podcasts, Creator Program, and Monetizing YouTube

Kyle Denhoff, the Director of New Media at HubSpot, discussed the concept of every company being a media company and whether it applies to all businesses, and the challenges of applying traditional marketing strategies to new channels like podcasts and YouTube.He also touched on the potential for partnerships in the creator economy and the effectiveness of using video content for B2B brands and emphasize the importance of finding unique niches, providing value, and leveraging partnerships in the media space. This episode also talked about measurement and attribution for media properties and the importance of finding the right mix of strategies for a brand or marketer.TopicsThe Shift in Marketing StrategyThe Role of Media in Marketing Driving Demand through YouTubeStruggling with DiversificationLong-Term CommitmentThe Creator Economy and Monetization Opportunities The Potential for Growth in the Creator EconomyProductivity HackBelief about MarketingCommitting to a Marketing MixShow LinksVisit HubSpotConnect with Kyle Denhoff on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Alex Birkett on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Aug 16, 2023 • 59min

Hypothesis-Driven Marketing Strategy, Efficient Growth, and How to Hire Product Marketers with Trinity Nguyen

Trinity Nguyen, VP of Marketing at UserGems, discusses account-based marketing, efficient growth, and the challenges of achieving alignment in a remote work environment. She emphasizes experimentation, content syndication, differentiation in marketing, and the importance of understanding target markets. Trinity encourages a creative B2B marketing approach, focusing on lead generation, building trust through social proof, and overcoming imposter syndrome.
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Aug 11, 2023 • 1h 7min

Building Communities for B2B Brands, Becoming a Marketing Leader, and Being Privileged with Kash Miah

In this episode, we are joined by Kash Miah, the VP of Marketing at CrowdRiff. He discussed his past experiences and his current role at CrowdRiff and talked about the importance of effective communication, building partnerships, and fostering community in marketing efforts, particularly in a remote work setting.Kash also shared CrowdRiff's focus for the year, which includes shifting its positioning and messaging and establishing clear roles and responsibilities within the team. He also touched on balancing work and family life.Overall, this conversation with Kash was filled with insightful lessons and experiences. His approach to marketing, communication, and community building provides valuable insights for anyone navigating the dual-sided marketplace.TopicsThe Approach to Joining New Companies The importance of clear communication and building partnershipsThe concept of community Creating a hybrid communityThe shift towards smaller, more intimate events The return of face-to-face interactions in marketing Expanding marketing capabilities Brand campaign to change positioningSocial media as a driver for business growth The power of effective communication Show LinksVisit CrowdriffConnect with Kash Miah on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Aug 9, 2023 • 55min

Building a Content and SEO Strategy for a PLG Company with Kirsty Finlayson

In this podcast episode, Kirsty Finlayson, the Director of Product Marketing and Content Marketing at Chameleon discusses various topics related to marketing, content strategy, and user experience.Kirsty shares insights on the structure of the Chameleon marketing team, their SEO strategy, the importance of listening to customer calls, and the role of content in a product-led growth model. She also shares her experience building the marketing function at Chameleon, making website optimizations through experiments, and the unique features and integrations offered by Chameleon's platform.TopicsThe team structureTransitioning from SEO-focused content to problem-solving contentCulture of no more fluff in contentThe role of content in product-led growthThe importance of foundational boring basic thingsOptimizing and personalizing website contentThe website experimentThe benchmark reportAbstracting away featuresThe trust thing and being a good managerShow LinksVisit chameleon.ioConnect with Kirsty Finlayson on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with David Khim on LinkedIn and TwitterConnect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or TwitterPast guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEOShould You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/
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Aug 4, 2023 • 54min

Kitchen Side: MMA, Objective Content Quality, Flaws of "Tone of Voice"

Marketing strategists Allie Decker, Alex Birkett, and David Ly Khim discuss the importance of mastering the basics of marketing, creating quality and relevant content, and the role of subject matter expertise and tone of voice in content creation. They emphasize the misconception that viral and entertaining content is necessary for marketing success, and highlight the significance of defining objective criteria for quality content.

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