The Zack Arnold Podcast

Want to continue learning from the world’s experts on time management, networking, career development, better sleep, overcoming burnout, and so much more?→ Click here for your customized podcast playlistToday I have not one, but two guests - Matt Allen and Matthew Gentile. Matt, a former student of the Optimizer program, is a Los Angeles based editor, filmmaker and recipient of the American Cinema Editor's prestigious Eric Zumbrunnen Fellowship. Matt recently edited his first feature film AMERICAN MURDERER, which was written and directed by my second guest, Matthew. Matthew is an award-winning filmmaker who holds a passion for true-crime, action, and thriller genres.In today’s conversation, Matt, Matthew and I dive deep into the key mindsets necessary to create your own independent film successfully. Whether you are a starter or a finisher (as Matt and Matthew call their roles), this conversation is packed with practical tools you can adopt and apply to your journey of making your film idea (or any other creative idea or project you might have) a reality. As both Matt and Matthew share here, so much of your potential success comes down to your mindset as well as your ability to do proper cold outreach.Matt shares the exact processes he continues to use from the Optimizer program that have led to so much of his success (and Matthew shares why he originally made fun of the Optimizer cold outreach formula…and also why he now is a big fan of using it). As we discuss in our conversation, there is a huge rise in the number of people making films for the first time right now. If you’re the kind of person who wants to join in on the fun, this conversation is the perfect place to start.Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode Here's What You'll Learn:The two specific factors that mark the difference between making a multi-million dollar box office hit and an independent film (that have nothing to do with funding)Why more people are making films now for the first time and why that’s beneficial to everyonePutting together a film crew for the first time? Look for this one specific trait in people (it has nothing to do with experience)The one thing you can do to maintain a positive mindset and reach your goals amidst ANY obstacle that appearsThe number one quality you need to have if you want to become successful in any leadership positionThe key elements of the Optimize Yourself program that Matt used in the real world that directly led him to successHow cold outreach (when done in the proper ways we discuss) is the key to connecting and building relationships with experts in your industryThe one thing you can do in your cold outreach emails that will drastically increase your response rateWhy Matthew originally made fun of the Optimize Yourself cold outreach formula…and why he now uses it so oftenWhat it means to “tell your story” and how that is the secret to working with expertsUseful Resources Mentioned:AMERICAN MURDERER on AmazonAMERICAN MURDERER on iTunesPost PerspectiveLos Angeles Post Production Group - Previs on an Indie BudgetAvid Rough Cut PodcastNo Film School PodcastCinemaMontage MagazineContinue to Listen & Learn[CASE STUDY] Why People Don't Respond to Your Cold Outreach (and How to Get a Response) | with Scott DavisChasing After the Next Gig vs. Building Your Career | with Kabir Ahktar, ACEWhy Writing Cold Emails Is the Most Important ‘Soft Skill’ You Must Master (Especially If You’re An Introvert) (zackarnold.com)The 5 Most Common Mistakes You're Making With Your Cold Emails (and How to Fix Them) (zackarnold.com)Ramit Sethi on Forging The Path Towards Your Own ‘Rich Life’Stop Waiting For Permission to Make Sh*t Happen | with Mark GanttGuest Bio: Matt AllenMatt Allen is a Los Angeles based filmmaker and recipient of the American Cinema Editor's prestigious Eric Zumbrunnen Fellowship. Matt recently edited his first feature film AMERICAN MURDERER (starring Tom Pelphrey, Ryan Phillippe and Jacki Weaver). He also served as the film's pre-vis editor, music editor and score producer. Matt began his movie journey in the studio offices of CBS Films and Voltage Pictures. After falling in love with the process of film editing, Matt began working as an assistant editor. Some of his credits include Hollywood Feature films Disney's Christopher Robin, A Man Called Otto starring Tom Hanks, Bloodshot starring Vin Diesel, and Sweet Girl starring Jason Momoa. Matt holds an MFA in film editing from the American Film Institute and is an Associate Member of American Cinema Editors.Guest Bio: Matthew GentileMatthew Gentile is an award-winning filmmaker. His narrative feature debut, AMERICAN MURDERER, stars Emmy-nominee Tom Pelphrey, Ryan Phillippe, Idina Menzel, Oscar nominee Jacki Weaver, Shantel VanSanten, Moises Arias, Paul Schneider, and Kevin Corrigan. A graduate of the prestigious directing program at the AFI Conservatory, Matthew’s thesis film FRONTMAN won the Student Emmy for Best Directing and his second thesis LAWMAN played over 100 festivals worldwide and won the Dolby + Vizio Vision Award at AFI Fest. Currently, Matthew is prepping his second feature, a thriller/noir titled THE SOCIALITE (based on the nonfiction book A SOCIALITE SCORNED) and is developing multiple projects in the true-crime, action, and thriller genres.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

Want to continue learning from the world’s experts on time management, networking, career development, better sleep, overcoming burnout, and so much more?→ Click here for your customized podcast playlistLaura Vanderkam is the author of several time management and productivity books, including the new Tranquility by Tuesday: 9 Ways to Calm the Chaos and Make Time for What Matters, along with Juliet’s School of Possibilities, Off the Clock, I Know How She Does It, What the Most Successful People Do Before Breakfast, and 168 Hours. Her work has appeared in publications including the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Fast Company, and Fortune. Beyond being a successful author, Laura is also the host of the podcast Before Breakfast, as well as the co-host of Best of Both Worlds with Sarah Hart-Unger.Whether you’re following an overly strict schedule or absolutely no schedule at all, there is one common experience: YEARS go by and you are left with very few (if any) memorable, meaningful moments. In order to “survive” our busy schedules, it seems that we get stuck in a time loop of tasks, interspersed with eating (poorly) and sleeping (not enough). Then we repeat - for decades. But as you’ll learn in my conversation with Laura, there are simple ways we can structure our lives so that we don’t have to choose between reaching our goals and living a present, purposeful life.If you’re ready to stop letting life pass you by with your head down assessing to-do lists, this conversation is a must-listen. Laura shares simple ways in which we can use time tracking and habit formation not only to “get more done” but to make sure we aren’t missing our lives as we strive to reach our goals. I personally found Laura’s advice game changing and can’t wait for you to hear our conversation. Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode Here's What You'll Learn:Laura shares her 9 ways to calm the chaos and make time for what matters (that are absolutely game changing)Why avoiding using a “strict” schedule actually sets you up for more success (and how to find that balance)The problem with striving for “work-life balance” and what you should actually be striving for insteadWhat “batching” means and how it is an absolute game changer to your schedule (and sanity)How to build a schedule in such a way that your projects and goals stay on track even when obstacles get in the wayThe difference between daily habits and regular habits (does 3 days a week even count in the eyes of an expert)How to maintain habits without feeding your perfectionism and adding more stress to your lifeHow you can both build and follow daily routines without feeling bored and eventually quittingWhy making more memorable moments can completely change your perception of time (and how you can get started today)The two specific things that keep us addicted to busy-ness and doing too many things, and how we can break that patternUseful Resources Mentioned:The Four Tendencies QuizTranquility by Tuesday: 9 Ways to Calm the Chaos and Make Time for What MattersContinue to Listen & LearnThe Four Tendencies’ (aka ‘The Matrix’ For Understanding Yourself & Others) | with Gretchen RubinThe Zen-like Art of 'Getting Things Done' | with David AllenRedefining What It Means to Be “Productive” (and Aligning Your Values With Your Time) | with Tamara TorresLet’s Stop Talking About “Productivity” and Start Talking About Balance | with Mike VardyHow to Have a Successful Career Without Sacrificing Family | with Farrel LevyGuest Bio: Laura VanderkamLaura Vanderkam is the author of several time management and productivity books, including the new Tranquility by Tuesday: 9 Ways to Calm the Chaos and Make Time for What Matters, along with Juliet’s School of Possibilities, Off the Clock, I Know How She Does It, What the Most Successful People Do Before Breakfast, and 168 Hours. Her work has appeared in publications including the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Fast Company, and Fortune. She is the host of the podcast Before Breakfast and the co-host, with Sarah Hart-Unger, of the podcast Best of Both Worlds. She lives outside Philadelphia with her husband and five children, and blogs at LauraVanderkam.com.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

Want to continue learning from the world’s experts on time management, networking, career development, better sleep, overcoming burnout, and so much more?→ Click here for your customized podcast playlistMike Vardy- also known as "The Productivityist” - is a highly-acclaimed productivity strategist and the creator of the productivity philosophy and framework known as TimeCrafting. He is considered to be one of the top thought leaders in the personal productivity and time management space and his work has been featured in Lifehacker, Fast Company, HuffPost, Inc., and Forbes.Now you might be thinking that Mike and I are going to nerd out over productivity hacks, strategies, and apps in an effort to help you fill every second of your day with activities so you can get more sh*t done (and trust me, we could). But this conversation has a refreshingly different agenda: re-defining what it means to be “productive” and exploring the ways in which we can maintain momentum towards - and reach - our personal and professional goals while remaining balanced.If you’re tired of feeling like the only way you can reach success is through packing on even more work to your agenda, this conversation is for you. Not only will Mike help you shift your mindset on what it really means to be productive, he’ll share simple and practical ways in which you can achieve your most important goals while remaining present, balanced, and SANE (all without using a single time management app).Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode Here's What You'll Learn:Why the era of using systems and apps in order to maintain high levels of productivity is endingThe mental shifts necessary to break away from the “productivity cult” that helps you create more space in your day…only so you can fill it with more productivityWhy using productivity tools can actually make you less productiveWhy you need to understand the difference between work-life balance and work-life presenceHow you can prioritize the tasks of your day in a way that involves balance (without losing momentum towards your goals)The two factors you need to know about that will determine the level of your successWhy taking short breaks to move can one of the most impactful productivity hacks imaginableWhat it means to create “themes” during your week…and why this will save your sanityWhy we need to stop putting all of our focus on “time” when we build our schedule, and start factoring in our levels of energy throughout the dayWhy Mike calls journaling the most undervalued productivity and time management tool we have (and how you can get started building that habit today)Useful Resources Mentioned:The Four Tendencies QuizTime Crafting Starter KitContinue to Listen & LearnThe Zen-like Art of 'Getting Things Done' | with David AllenRedefining What It Means to Be “Productive” (and Aligning Your Values With Your Time) | with Tamara TorresHow Tiny Changes Can Create Remarkable Results | with James ClearHow to Have a Successful Career Without Sacrificing Family | with Farrel LevyDear Hollywood: We Don’t Want to “Go Back to Normal." Normal Wasn’t Working.Guest Bio: Mike VardyMike Vardy – also known as "The Productivityist" – is a highly-acclaimed productivity strategist and the creator of the productivity philosophy and framework known as TimeCrafting. He's considered to be one of the top thought leaders in the personal productivity and time management space, with over 15 years of expertise under his belt and having coaching hundreds of clients over that timespan.His work has been featured in Lifehacker, Fast Company, HuffPost, Inc., and Forbes. Vardy is a renowned international speaker and has taught productivity practices on popular online education platforms CreativeLive, Skillshare, and LinkedIn Learning where his courses are among the most popular in the business category. He also hosts A Productive Conversation with Mike Vardy, a conversational podcast that has featured guests such as Seth Godin, Brian Tracy, Keith Ferrazzi, and Gretchen Rubin – and has been downloaded over 5 million times since its inception.Mike lives in Victoria, Canada with his wife, daughter, and son.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

Want to continue learning from the world’s experts on time management, networking, career development, better sleep, overcoming burnout, and so much more?→ Click here for your customized podcast playlistFor the last 200 episodes of the Optimize Yourself podcast, I’ve been speaking with world class authors, artists, athletes, and just plain inspiring humans. It has been an incredible honor to not only have these conversations, but share them with you as you design the more balanced, more productive, more fulfilling (and creative) life that you deserve. For today’s episode, however, I’m flipping the script and sharing an interview with none other than…well, myself.In this episode, Optimize Yourself Podcast Producer, Debby Germino, puts me on the hot seat by digging deep into my story of creating the podcast, the coaching & mentorship program, and all of the personal and professional struggles I’ve experienced along the way. You’ll hear the deeper influences my first 200 podcast interviews have had on my life personally, as well as how those mindset shifts are built into the Optimize Yourself coaching & mentorship program so that we all have a chance to embody the wisdom of these amazing guests. You’ll also learn my own personal ‘Why’ that keeps me going no matter what obstacles present themselves on my journey to inspire others to not only comprehend, but reach their fullest potential.If you’re interested in getting a sneak peak behind the curtain, you’re in for a treat. Beyond learning where I’ve been on my journey to create this business, you’ll also learn where Optimize Yourself is headed in the future. And be prepared to hear some embarrassing stories along the way, like the time my Imposter Syndrome was so severe I had to do a webinar on my knees to prevent myself from passing out. Yeah. That happened.Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode Here's What You'll Learn:The specific moment (and reason) I decided to start my original podcast, Fitness in Post, and what happened that influenced me to later change it to the Optimize Yourself podcastThe two words someone said to me that ignited a paralyzing case of Imposter Syndrome (no really, I almost quit everything)The ONE thing that keeps me going, no matter how difficult building the Optimize Yourself podcast and coaching & mentorship program getsThe real struggles of having a podcast that no one talks about (and the reason most people quit after 5 episodes)How to use “exposure therapy” to prevent your biggest fears from getting in the way of your grandest dreamsWhat it means to make your fear “manageable” (and the massive benefits of doing so)Why failing as quickly and as often as possible truly is the fastest way to reaching successThe one common factor that ties all of my podcast guest together, despite the fact that they are so drastically different (yes…sleep experts, Directors, and Ninjas do have something in common)The specific mindset tools I personally use to consistently push myself outside of my comfort zone in my effort to inspire others to do the sameWhy I don’t believe in just selling courses online and making “passive income” (even though it’s an incredibly popular way to make ‘easy’ money these days)Useful Resources Mentioned:A Classic Case of Post-Production BurnoutFind Your Why by Simon SinekThe Laws of Creativity by Joey CofoneHow to Overcome Doubting Yourself When You Know You’re Meant For More | with Sandy Zimmerman, ANWManaging Limiting Beliefs, Imposter Syndrome, and all the “Chatter” In Our Heads | with Ethan KrossHow to Sleep Smarter | with Shawn StevensonContinue to Listen & LearnMichelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Career (Instead of Checkers) - Pt1Michelle Tesoro (ACE) On Playing Chess With Your Health & Well-Being - Pt2Mastering the “Chess Mindset” to Achieve Any Difficult Goal (and Get Really Good at Failing Along the Way) | with Misha TenenbaumThe Science Behind Success and Creative Burnout (And Why You’re Approaching Both Mostly Wrong) | with Eric BarkerShow Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

As the new year approaches, you may be thinking about how the past year went and what the new year will bring. Maybe you’re happy with the direction your life and career are headed…or maybe you’re ready to make some changes? As 2022 winds down, I understand how easy it is to get caught up in the chaos of the holidays and fall into the trap of thinking “I’ll just write December off as a loss and start fresh in the new year.”Rather than simply take a hiatus during the month of December, my team and I want to set you up for success when 2023 rolls around so you can consistently and sustainably take action towards your most important goals all year long. That’s why we’ve carefully reviewed our entire podcast library of over 200 interviews to bring you what we believe are the top 5 best conversations to help you design the more balanced, more productive, and more fulfilling (and creative) life that you deserve.Without further adieu, here is the final part of this five interview series with Dr. Tal Ben Shahar, bestselling author, lecturer and founder of the Happiness Studies Academy, where we discuss what it takes to really design a more fulfilling career and whether or not success and happiness have to be mutually exclusive.→ Click here to go to the original episode show notes of the interview with Dr. Tal Ben Shahar→ Click here to learn more about working together to transform your dreams into your new realitySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

As the new year approaches, you may be thinking about how the past year went and what the new year will bring. Maybe you’re happy with the direction your life and career are headed…or maybe you’re ready to make some changes? As 2022 winds down, I understand how easy it is to get caught up in the chaos of the holidays and fall into the trap of thinking “I’ll just write December off as a loss and start fresh in the new year.”Rather than simply take a hiatus during the month of December, my team and I want to set you up for success when 2023 rolls around so you can consistently and sustainably take action towards your most important goals all year long. That’s why we’ve carefully reviewed our entire podcast library of over 200 interviews to bring you what we believe are the top 5 best conversations to help you design the more balanced, more productive, and more fulfilling (and creative) life that you deserve.Without further adieu, here is the fourth part of this five interview series with David Mead, co-author of the book Find Your Why written alongside legendary bestselling author and expert on leadership Simon Sinek where we discuss how you can discover your true purpose and find more meaning and fulfillment in your work.→ Click here to go to the original episode show notes of the interview with David Mead→ Click here to learn more about working together to transform your dreams into your new realitySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

Expert in managing limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome, Ethan Kross, discusses strategies for overcoming self-doubt, managing internal chatter, and utilizing mindfulness. The podcast explores the impact of mindset, positive self-talk, and tools to combat self-sabotage. Additionally, it touches on the benefits of active sitting chairs and self-experimentation for overcoming anxiety and imposter syndrome.

As the new year approaches, you may be thinking about how the past year went and what the new year will bring. Maybe you’re happy with the direction your life and career are headed…or maybe you’re ready to make some changes? As 2022 winds down, I understand how easy it is to get caught up in the chaos of the holidays and fall into the trap of thinking “I’ll just write December off as a loss and start fresh in the new year.”Rather than simply take a hiatus during the month of December, my team and I want to set you up for success when 2023 rolls around so you can consistently and sustainably take action towards your most important goals all year long. That’s why we’ve carefully reviewed our entire podcast library of over 200 interviews to bring you what we believe are the top 5 best conversations to help you design the more balanced, more productive, and more fulfilling (and creative) life that you deserve.Without further adieu, here is the second part of this five interview series with Tamara Torres, the founder of Optima Results Coaching, where we discuss how to redefine what it really means to be productive and how to better align your time with your values.→ Click here to go to the original episode show notes of the interview with Tamara Torres→ Click here to learn more about working together to transform your dreams into your new realitySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

As the new year approaches, you may be thinking about how the past year went and what the new year will bring. Maybe you’re happy with the direction your life and career are headed…or maybe you’re ready to make some changes? As 2022 winds down, I understand how easy it is to get caught up in the chaos of the holidays and fall into the trap of thinking “I’ll just write December off as a loss and start fresh in the new year.”Rather than simply take a hiatus during the month of December, my team and I want to set you up for success when 2023 rolls around so you can consistently and sustainably take action towards your most important goals all year long. That’s why we’ve carefully reviewed our entire podcast library of over 200 interviews to bring you what we believe are the top 5 best conversations to help you design the more balanced, more productive, and more fulfilling (and creative) life that you deserve.Without further adieu, here is the first part of this five-interview series with the legendary Tony Horton, creator of the best selling home fitness program in history P90X, who has also been my ninja mentor for the last four years as well as a friend. This interview is from way back in the Optimize archives at the very beginning of our relationship where Tony went in depth about how to define your purpose and start living large.→ Click here to go to the original episode show notes of the interview with Tony Horton→ Click here to learn more about working together to transform your dreams into your new realitySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content

Want to continue learning from the world’s experts on time management, networking, career development, better sleep, overcoming burnout, and so much more?→ Click here for your customized podcast playlistRalph Macchio is an actor, producer, and director obviously most well known for his portrayal of Daniel LaRusso in the Karate Kid films and now the hit Netflix series Cobra Kai. He has also appeared on both stage and screen in notable credits including The Outsiders, Crossroads, and My Cousin Vinny. Most recently, he has also added ‘NYT bestselling author’ to his credits after releasing Waxing On: The Karate Kid and Me which I can not recommend enough (it probably comes as no surprise I read the entire book in one sitting).In one of the few rare occurrences where Ralph has made himself available for a long form conversation (as opposed to doing the rounds on the talk shows for a few minutes at a time), Ralph and I dive deep into his life, his successes, and his failures along the way far beyond just his role as Daniel LaRusso in The Karate Kid and Cobra Kai (but for all you diehard fans don’t worry…we definitely discuss that too). Ralph shares his challenges with maintaining authenticity in both his performances but also who he is as a person, father, and husband. Given his personal relationship with Pat Morita offscreen that translated to his relationship with Mr. Miyagi onscreen, we discuss mentorship and how it has shaped him. We honestly discuss how Ralph has managed the challenge of being pigeonholed as a single character his entire acting career. And most importantly, this wouldn’t be a proper conversation without discussing how to live a life defined by balance.Whether The Karate Kid was your Star Wars or you’re literally hearing of Ralph Macchio for the first time, there’s no better way to say it: Today’s conversation will inspire the shit out of you.Want to Hear More Episodes Like This One?» Click here to subscribe and never miss another episode Here's What You'll Learn:How we can define work-life balance in a day & age where the lines are so blurred between the two, they feel like the same thingHow we can manage and face our deepest fears when we know they’re standing between us and the best version of ourselvesThe real reason Ralph says Cobra Kai has been such a success (and it’s not just The Karate Kid)How remaining authentic paves the way for success both in your career and personal lifeHow Ralph Macchio defines what a “Miyagi mentor” is in real lifeUnderstanding the difference between when you can avoid being pigeonholed, and when it’s time to embrace the mark you’ve madeThe importance of knowing when to strive for balance, and when to fully commitHow fully committing to the present moment allows for a more successful and fulfilling personal life and careerHow to maintain healthy relationships when you are forced to go through periods of work that require your absenceWhat Ralph is planning next after Cobra Kai…Useful Resources Mentioned:Waxing On: The Karate Kid and MeWax On, F*ck Off with Ralph MacchioHow to Find the Right Type of Mentor For You (and When You Should Seek the Best)Continue to Listen & LearnHow to Have a Successful Career Without Sacrificing Family | with Farrel LevyHow to Reinvent Yourself at Any Age (And Become Badass) | with Scott MorganMaking It In Hollywood as a "Creative" (What They Don't Teach You In Film School) | with Norman HollynOn the Vital Importance of "Being Nice" | with Jesse Averna, ACEHow to Avoid Getting Pigeonholed, The ‘Concentric Circles of Networking’ & More | with Doc Crotzer, ACEThe power of finding the right mentor (and how to make it happen)How to Go From Cold Contact to Your Ideal Mentor In Seven Simple StepsGuest Bio:Ralph MacchioAn actor, producer, director with an extensive list of credits, Ralph Macchio is best known for his celebrated performance as Johnny in Frances Ford Coppola’s The Outsiders; the hit film My Cousin Vinny; and most notably for the title role in the popular classic The Karate Kid and its successors. Expanding further on the Karate Kid Universe, Ralph continues to reprise his iconic role of Daniel LaRusso in the hit Netflix series Cobra Kai. He lives on Long Island with his family.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, and the show notes were prepared by Debby Germino and published by Glen McNiel.The original music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Joe Trapanese (who is quite possibly one of the most talented composers on the face of the planet).Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-zack-arnold-podcast/exclusive-content