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We welcome YOU to America’s leading higher education podcast! Hosted by Dr. Joe Sallustio, whose down-to-Earth approach & industry experience helps to make dry & complicated educational topics more fun & engaging to discuss. Elvin Freytes, Producer, brings YOU the most innovative leaders in higher education to the microphone. The EdUp Experience team brings over 40 years of experience in higher education - YOU will feel refreshed, upskilled, & reskilled after listening to this podcast.
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Mar 3, 2025 • 29min
Why Polymath University's 3-Major Model Will Transform Higher Education - with Dan Futrell, Founder, Polymath University
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series #349, (Powered By Ellucian),YOUR guest is Dan Futrell, Founder, Polymath UniversityYOUR host is Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Host, EdUp Accreditation InsightsThis episode highlights the innovative approach to higher education at Polymath University, a new nonprofit institution designed to be interdisciplinary, apprenticeship-based, & debt-free. Founder Dan Futrell shares his vision for a university that addresses both accessibility & effectiveness challenges in higher education through a unique model where students pursue three non-adjacent majors while working as apprentices with employer partners.The conversation explores how Polymath's approach differs from traditional higher education by focusing primarily on instruction rather than facilities, athletics, or research. Students will earn a bachelor's degree in three years through a year-round program with eight-week course blocks, developing breadth, depth, & integration across disciplines that prepares them to solve complex problems in an interdisciplinary way.Polymath University demonstrates a compelling value proposition through its ROTC-inspired model for the private sector, where students work as paid apprentices with employers who cover the $9,500 annual tuition. This partnership helps fill high-vacancy, high-demand roles while providing students valuable applied learning experiences & career pathways without debt.The institution's early-stage development includes standalone remote courses beginning April 2025, a master's level certificate program launching Fall 2025, & plans for the full bachelor's degree program in 2028. Futrell emphasizes the importance of finding both employer partners & faculty who prioritize teaching, coaching, & mentoring studentsListen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 19, 2025 • 50min
How Mission & Purpose Drive Educational Excellence - with Dr. Brian Johnson, President, Warner Pacific University
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series #348, (Powered By Ellucian),YOUR guest is Dr. Brian Johnson, President, Warner Pacific UniversityYOUR cohost is Mark Wheeler, VP of Partnership Development, EducationDynamicsYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioThis episode highlights Warner Pacific University's unique position as a Christian university serving a diverse student population of around 650 students, with federal designations as both a Hispanic Serving Institution & an Asian American, Native American, Pacific Islander Serving Institution.President Johnson, the first minority president in the university's 83-year history, shares how WPU focuses on helping students discover their purpose & align their careers with their callings through a Christ-centered education approach.The conversation explores WPU's strategy for growth, potential expansion to 850-1200 students, & the importance of mission alignment in institutional development. As a small institution, WPU faces unique challenges in managing resources while maintaining academic quality & student support services.The university has successfully leveraged its federal designations to secure grant opportunities that support student success initiatives. President Johnson discusses the delicate balance of preserving liberal arts tradition while meeting career-focused education demands, particularly for first-generation & diverse student populations.Throughout the discussion, President Johnson emphasizes the enduring value of purpose-driven education in today's marketplace, highlighting how WPU's mission serves both students' career aspirations & personal development.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 13, 2025 • 60min
LIVE from InsightsEDU 2025 - with Xavier Cole, President, Loyola University New Orleans, Dr. Melik Khoury, President, Unity Environmental University, & Brent Fitch, President, RMCAD
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series #345-347, recorded LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference in New OrleansYOUR guests are Xavier Cole, President, Loyola University New Orleans, Dr. Melik Khoury, President, Unity Environmental University, & Brent Fitch, President, RMCADYOUR cohost is Elvin FreytesYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioIn this dynamic episode featuring 3 distinctive university presidents, each leader shares unique insights about leading their institutions & serving today's learners.Dr. Cole discusses Loyola's role as an anchor institution in New Orleans, emphasizing their focus on developing servant leaders through Jesuit education principles. He shares how New Orleans serves as a learning laboratory for students.Dr. Khoury delivers candid perspectives on transparency in leadership & the importance of authentic communication in higher education. He discusses Unity's significant growth & his philosophy of "living out loud" as a president.Brent Fitch reveals how RMCAD achieved 50% growth since 2019 through strategic initiatives like unified pricing & managed growth. He shares their innovative 9-stage student journey framework with corresponding KPIs.The conversations explore essential themes in higher education today, from balancing traditional values with innovative approaches to the critical importance of maintaining a strong institutional identity. The presidents discuss strategies for leading with transparency while driving strategic growth & ensuring student success. Throughout the discussions, they emphasize the paramount importance of understanding & meeting the needs of today's modern learners.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 13, 2025 • 22min
LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference - with Matthew Loonam, Lead Enterprise Executive - Education Vertical, LinkedIn
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, recorded LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference in New OrleansYOUR guest isMatthew Loonam, Lead Enterprise Executive - Education Vertical, LinkedInYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioIn this compelling episode, LinkedIn's Matthew Loonam shares valuable insights about the evolving landscape of higher education marketing & student recruitment through professional social networks.Speaking from the InsightsEDU conference in New Orleans, Loonam reveals how successful institutions are embracing full-funnel marketing approaches that combine lead generation & brand awareness to drive enrollment growth.With six years at LinkedIn & over five years focused on higher education, Loonam brings deep expertise in helping institutions leverage professional networks for student recruitment.He makes a powerful case for why institutions need to move beyond single-touch marketing to create multiple meaningful engagement points with prospective students.The conversation explores how today's shortened consideration set - down from three schools to just two - makes institutional differentiation & storytelling more critical than ever.Loonam shares practical insights about the importance of communicating concrete outcomes & ROI to prospective students, moving beyond generic messaging about flexibility & affordability.Most intriguingly, Loonam discusses LinkedIn's growing appeal to younger demographics & how the platform maintains human connection in an AI-driven world through authentic networking.His perspective on the evolution of higher education marketing & the continued importance of upskilling provides valuable context for understanding today's recruitment landscape.For anyone interested in higher education marketing's future, this episode delivers actionable insights from someone at the intersection of professional networking & student recruitment.Loonam's combination of platform expertise & industry experience makes this a must-listen conversation about effective higher education marketing in today's digital landscape.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 12, 2025 • 25min
LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference - with Katie Tomlinson, Sr. Director of Analytics & BI, & Greg Clayton, President, EducationDynamics
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, recorded LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference in New OrleansYOUR guests are Katie Tomlinson, Sr. Director of Analytics & BI, & Greg Clayton, President, EducationDynamicsYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioIn this insightful episode, EducationDynamics leaders Greg Clayton & Katie Tomlinson share compelling findings from their latest "Engaging the Modern Learner" report, revealing dramatic shifts in how students approach higher education.Speaking from the record-breaking InsightsEDU conference, they explain why traditional student classifications are becoming obsolete as learners of all types converge around the same core values.Clayton shares a fascinating revelation about how prospective students' search behavior has completely flipped over the past decade - from primarily program-focused to brand-focused searches.This shift has major implications for how institutions need to think about marketing & enrollment strategy.The conversation takes an especially interesting turn when Tomlinson, EducationDynamics' data guru, dives into surprising statistics about enrollment speed & decision-making.Her revelation that 72% of students enroll at the first school that admits them highlights the critical importance of quick, responsive admissions processes.The discussion offers valuable insights about brand loyalty & lifetime learning, with 48% of current students planning to seek additional credentials at their existing school.This represents a major opportunity for institutions willing to evolve beyond viewing education as a one-time transaction.For anyone interested in understanding today's learners & how to effectively reach them, this episode provides essential insights backed by fresh data.Clayton & Tomlinson's analysis of changing student behaviors, combined with practical recommendations for institutions, makes this a must-listen conversation about the future of higher education marketing & enrollment.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 12, 2025 • 18min
LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference - with Brent Ramdin, CEO, EducationDynamics
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, recorded LIVE from the InsightsEDU 2025 Conference in New OrleansYOUR guest is Brent Ramdin, CEO, EducationDynamicsYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioIn this compelling episode, EducationDynamics CEO Brent Ramdin shares provocative insights about why some institutions are thriving while others struggle in today's challenging higher education landscape.Speaking from the record-breaking InsightsEDU conference in New Orleans, Ramdin reveals how the fastest-growing programs in the nation are succeeding by fundamentally rethinking their approach to enrollment & institutional sustainability.As the new CEO, Ramdin brings a fresh perspective, candidly addressing how institutions must balance revenue & reputation - a topic many in higher education have been hesitant to discuss openly.He makes a powerful case for why it's time to move beyond theoretical enrollment strategies to more pragmatic approaches.The conversation explores the evolution of marketing in higher education, challenging the traditional "black box" philosophy of enrollment management.Ramdin shares real examples of how innovative institutions are achieving remarkable growth by embracing transparency and agile strategies.Most intriguingly, Ramdin offers insights into how successful institutions are adapting to serve the "modern learner" - explaining why the traditional divisions between online, adult, and traditional students are breaking down.His explanation of the "three C's" (cost, career, & convenience) provides a compelling framework for understanding today's student mindset.For anyone interested in higher education's future, this episode delivers valuable insights from someone working with many of the fastest-growing institutions in the country.Ramdin's combination of strategic vision & practical experience makes this a must-listen conversation about the future of higher education marketing & enrollment.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 12, 2025 • 50min
Will Technical Colleges Lead the Future of Higher Education? - with Dr. James Genandt, President, Manhattan Area Technical College
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series (Powered By Ellucian) #344, & brought to YOU by the InsightsEDU 2025 conferenceYOUR guest is Dr. James Genandt, President, Manhattan Area Technical CollegeYOUR host is Dr. Jodi BlincoThis episode highlights the innovative approaches to technical education at Manhattan Area Technical College (MATC) in Manhattan, Kansas - known as "The Little Apple."President & CEO Genandt shares how MATC has grown dramatically over the past decade, including increasing high school student enrollment from 12 to nearly 700 students, while maintaining a 96-97% job placement rate for graduates.The conversation explores how MATC adapts quickly to workforce needs through strong employer partnerships, industry-recognized credentials, & hands-on learning experiences that prepare students for high-paying careers.MATC demonstrates a compelling value proposition in technical education, with graduates averaging first-year salaries over $50,000 & many programs offering significant earning potential after just one year of study.Through intentional relationship building & active participation in economic development initiatives, the college has established itself as an essential partner in the community's growth & success.The institution's approach to learning emphasizes hands-on, applied experiences that particularly resonate with Generation Z & Alpha learners.This pedagogical strategy, combined with accelerated learning pathways & robust student support services, has proven highly effective in driving student success & completion rates.President Genandt discusses the transformation of technical education's image & its critical role in supporting local economies, emphasizing how MATC keeps "the everyday world working" through responsive, flexible programming.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 11, 2025 • 47min
Why This College President Chose to Close Rather Than Merge - with Dr. Joseph Chillo, President When Newbury College Closed
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series (Powered By Ellucian) #343, part of a special EdUp College Closure Miniseries - Through the Eyes of..., brought to YOU by the InsightsEDU 2025 conference & Ellucian LIVE 2025YOUR guest is Dr. Joseph Chillo, President When Newbury College ClosedYOUR host is Dr. Jay M. Keehn. Dr. Jay M. Keehn was employed by Union Institute & University for 18 years. UI&U formerly announced its’ closure in June, 2024.During his tenure, he held roles as faculty, director of academic programs, campus executive director, & dean of students.Dr. Keehn is the founder of THE CLUB, a monthly get-together of professionals affected by their college closing. In THE CLUB, people share their stories & socialize around the current landscape while looking at what may be Tomorrow’s Higher Education.This episode explores how the 2008 banking crisis created significant challenges for college operations & student loans, fundamentally altering the higher education landscape.Jay & Joseph delve into the strategic approaches institutions can employ when planning for potential closure, while examining the delicate balance leaders must maintain between confidentiality & transparency during closure planning.The conversation reveals critical steps that can be taken to protect student academic progress & financial investment throughout the closure process.Additionally, they discuss the profound impact that managing institutional closure has on leadership wellness & career trajectory.Key insights from Dr. Chillo's experience demonstrate the vital importance of developing both survival & contingency plans early in the process, along with creating comprehensive teach-out agreements with multiple institutions to protect students' academic futures.His leadership approach emphasized maintaining transparent communication with accreditors & banking partners throughout the closure process.The discussion highlights how preserving institutional legacy through strategic distribution of assets can ensure lasting impact.Throughout the conversation, Dr. Chillo shares his personal journey of balancing personal wellness with institutional responsibilities during this challenging transition.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Do YOU want to get all this while helping to sustain EdUp?Then BECOME A SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want to get YOUR organization to pay for YOUR subscription? Email EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 9min
Why Cross-Industry Leadership Is Higher Ed's Secret Weapon - with Christopher L. Kenny, Jonathan Peri, Dr. Randall VanWagoner, & Dr. MarTeze D. Hammonds
It's YOUR time to #EdUpIn this episode, President Series (Powered By Ellucian) #341 & 342, recorded Live from theMiddle States Commission on Higher Education 2024 Annual Conference, & brought to YOU by the InsightsEDU 2025 conferenceYOUR guests are Christopher L. Kenny, Esq., President & CEO, Kenny Family ShopRites of Delaware, & Jonathan Peri, President, Manor College. We're also joined by Dr. Randall VanWagoner, President, Mohawk Valley Community College, & Dr. MarTeze D. Hammonds, Founder/Owner/Principal Consultant, MDH Consulting Group, LLCYOUR cohost is Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Host, EdUp Accreditation InsightsYOUR host is Dr. Joe SallustioThis episode features Christopher L. Kenny discussing his unique perspective as a non-academic commissioner & the value of business acumen in accreditation, followed by Jonathan Peri exploring the role of follow-up committees in supporting struggling institutions.The conversation continues with Dr. Randall VanWagoner sharing insights on student success at Mohawk Valley Community College, including their innovative approaches to mental health support, food insecurity, & the impact of data-driven decision making in achieving high graduation rates.Through the final segment, Dr. MarTeze D. Hammonds provides a comprehensive examination of DEI in higher education, unpacking common misconceptions, addressing current challenges, & emphasizing the importance of maintaining DEI standards in accreditation despite external pressures.He highlights the need for proper implementation of DEI initiatives & the critical role of institutional leadership in fostering inclusive environments.Listen in to #EdUpDo YOU want to accelerate YOUR professional development?Do YOU want to get exclusive early access to ad-free episodes, extended episodes, bonus episodes, original content, invites to special events, & more?Then BECOME AN #EdUp PREMIUM SUBSCRIBER TODAY - $19.99/month or $199.99/year (Save 17%)!Want YOUR org to cover costs? Email: EdUp@edupexperience.comThank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp!Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - Elvin Freytes & Dr. Joe Sallustio● Join YOUR EdUp community at The EdUp Experience!We make education YOUR business!

Feb 7, 2025 • 57min
Will AI Transform College Accreditation? with Dr. Judi Sciple, Dr. Ryan Hartnett, Dr. Terence Peavy, Tray Patterson, MSCHE, & Dr. Steven M. Rose, President, Passaic Community College
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In this episode, President Series (Powered By Ellucian) #340, recorded Live from the Middle States Commission on Higher Education 2024 Annual Conference, & brought to YOU by the InsightsEDU 2025 conference
YOUR guests are Dr. Judi Sciple, Senior VP for Accreditation Relations & Services, Dr. Ryan Hartnett, VP for Institutional Field Relations, Dr. Terence Peavy, VP for Institutional Field Relations, Tray Patterson, Director for Volunteer Services, MSCHE, & Dr. Steven M. Rose, President, Passaic Community College
YOUR cohost is Dr. Laurie Shanderson, Host, EdUp Accreditation Insights
YOUR host is Dr. Joe Sallustio
This episode features Dr. Judy Sciple discussing Middle States' approach to innovation & accreditation standards, followed by Ryan Hartnett & Terrence Peevy exploring institutional field relations & support for member institutions.
The conversation continues with Dr. Steven Rose & Trey Patterson sharing insights on financial challenges facing higher education, the potential impact of artificial intelligence on the accreditation process, & the significance of the 90-credit bachelor's degree initiative.
Through multiple perspectives, from senior leadership to volunteer services, the guests emphasize Middle States' commitment to supporting innovation while maintaining quality standards, with Patterson highlighting the critical role of over 1,800 volunteer peer evaluators in maintaining the integrity of the accreditation process.
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