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Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 30min

Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing

Dr. Allan Zuckoff is a clinical psychologist with over 30 years dedicated to motivational interviewing research and training. In this discussion, he explores ambivalence as a strength in therapeutic settings. Zuckoff emphasizes the importance of integrating values into practice, fostering strong client relationships. He navigates the complexities of emotional resilience and the significance of recognizing anticipatory discord in therapy. The conversation also highlights how curiosity about client struggles can lead to meaningful behavior change.
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Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 8min

Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction 

Episode 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction Glenn and Sebastian welcomed David C. Hodgins, Ph.D., R.Psych., FCAHS, FRSC, to the program to discuss MI for gambling addiction. Dr. Hodgins is a professor in the Program in Clinical Psychology in the Department of Psychology, University of Calgary and is director of the Addictive Behaviours Lab at the University of Calgary. Dr. Hodgins is also a research coordinator with the Alberta Gambling Research Institute. His research interests focus on various aspects of addictive behaviours including relapse and recovery from substance abuse and gambling disorders. Dr. Hodgins teaches in the clinical psychology program and has an active cadre of graduate students. He maintains a private practice in Calgary in addition to providing consultation to organizations internationally.      Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:56 – David’s background and early MI story  17:22 – Early work with people who gamble and the development of a self-help book 22:25 – Differences and similarities between gambling and other addictions 29:20 – MI for gambling  37:00 – Change talk and sustain talk in the context of MI with people who gamble 48:40 – Supporting the autonomy of people who gamble 53:40 – What is important for a gambling clinician to know? 1:01:38 – Working with industry to support harm reduction efforts 1:07:30 – End of episode     Contact info and related links: Email: dhodgins@ucalgary.ca  Learn more about David’s research and team: www.addiction.ucalgary.ca Workbooks and other self-help material: https://ucalgary.ca/labs/addictive-behaviours/resources/workbooks      For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction  appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Sep 9, 2024 • 1h 22min

Ep 83 – MI with Couples

Episode 83 – MI with couples Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tyrel Starks, PhD, onto the podcast to discuss his work on MI with couples.  A South Dakota native, Dr. Starks studied two years at Oberlin Conservatory before returning to the University of South Dakota to complete his undergraduate degree in psychology. He earned his PhD in child-clinical psychology from Southern Illinois University Carbondale in 2009. After a post-doctoral fellowship at Hunter College, he returned to join the faculty of the Psychology Department in 2014 and is now a professor. For more than 15 years, he has studied relationships and health, particularly substance use and HIV-related health in sexual minority men. The development of motivational interviewing with couples has been at the heart of this work. A licensed clinical psychologist and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, he is active as a trainer and clinical supervisor.         Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 04:42 – Tyrel’s journey from music to MI 13:15 – Intersection of HIV and substance use 21:25 – Early days of Tyrel’s work with couples 26:50 – MI with couples  31:10 – Relationship functioning before talking about change 38:00 – Balancing seeking consensus with evoking change talk 50:30 – Unique shifts for the practitioner: Introspection and use of language 57:20 – How might communication within the couple change? 1:12:20 – Future directions for MI with couples 1:15:45 – Cultivating common ground from political disagreements 1:21:59 – End of episode   Contact info and related links:   Email: tstarks@hunter.cuny.edu    Learn more about Dr. Starks’ research and team: https://www.hunterrhrt.org/    Read Dr. Starks’ blog about LGBTQ+ relationships:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/queer-relationships-no-straight-lines    Learn more about MI with couples:https://global.oup.com/academic/product/motivational-interviewing-with-couples-9780197549643?cc=us&lang=en&   MI in Groups: https://www.guilford.com/books/Motivational-Interviewing-in-Groups/Wagner-Ingersoll-Contributors/9781462507924    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 83 – MI with Couples appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Aug 5, 2024 • 1h 12min

Ep 82 – MI at Home

Episode 82 – MI at Home Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen Rollnick, PhD to the podcast to discuss the application of MI to conversations with family members. Steve is a clinical psychologist and Honorary Distinguished Professor in the School of Medicine, Cardiff, UK, and a co-founder of motivational interviewing.   He grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and lives in Cardiff, Wales. He was a practising psychologist in the UK National Health Service for 16 years, and then became a teacher and researcher on the subject of communication and behaviour change.     He has authored and co-authored books on motivational interviewing (Miller & Rollnick, 1991; 2001; 2012), and on applications in health care (Rollnick, Mason & Butler, 1999; Rollnick, Miller & Butler, 2007; 2022), schools (Rollnick, Kaplan & Rutschman, 2016) and sport (Rollnick, Fader, Breckon & Moyers, 2019).   He has published widely in scientific journals and has taught practitioners in many countries and continents. He has retired from his academic career and now focuses on projects in elite sport and healthcare.     Episode Index: 00:00 – Episode preview 07:18 – MI at home – where the idea started 13:08 – Steve’s story about working with mothers with babies infected with AIDS 20:00 – Steve recalls an article about MI at home written by his son Jake as a young man 27:30 – What else is there to change besides behavior? 46:50 – The importance of “restraint”  59:00 – Conversations with others at home (not just kids) 1:07:50 – Steve’s work with first responders and elite sportsmen 1:11:46 – End of episode   Contact information Website: www.stephenrollnick.com   X: @stephenrollnick    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 82 – MI at Home appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 1h 4min

Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance

MI for Sport and Performance Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Ben Freakley, CMPC on the podcast to discussed MI in sport and performance settings. Ben is a leader in the field of applied sport and performance psychology with a career spanning over two decades. He is the founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Resilient, which provides sports and performance psychology services to individuals, teams, and organizations.  Throughout his career, Ben has held several significant positions. He served as the Head of Mental Performance for the Toronto Blue Jays, where he led the development and delivery of mental skills programs across all levels of the organization. He was also the inaugural head coach and general manager of Tormenta FC in the United Soccer League (USL). His expertise extends to tactical environments, having worked as the performance psychology coach with the 75th Ranger Regiment of the United States Army Special Operations Forces.     Ben holds a doctoral degree in Sport and Performance Psychology with an emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He is also a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) through the Association for Applied Sport Psychology (AASP). His research focus areas include leadership preferences of NCAA Division One coaches and psychological frameworks that promote human flourishing.   Before his full-time work in sport and performance psychology, Ben spent over a decade as an NCAA College Soccer coach demonstrating his versatility and depth in coaching, psychology of performance, and team culture.    In his private practice, Ben works with executives and businesses, professional athletes and teams, and NCAA college athletics programs to help them evaluate and enhance their processes, performance, and well-being.  Ben is a sought-after speaker on topics such as resilience, mental performance, motivation, leadership, and organizational culture.     Episode index: 00:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:27 – Ben intro and early MI story 08:35 – Autonomy support in sport and military settings 15:01 – Shifting between following, guiding, and directing 17:20 – MI spirit in sport 24:45 – “Being a warm fire” 28:00 – Progressive sporting institutions 41:00 – What is success beyond winning? 43:00 – Situations in sport when MI helps 54:45 – Key points for coaches to learn and apply 1:04:14 – End of episode   Contact information: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ben-freakley-edd-cmpc-a5036bb1 Website: rsrcoaching.com   Email: bencfreakley@gmail.com    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jun 24, 2024 • 57min

Ep 80 – Motivational Interviewing & Behaviourism

Dr. James Anderson, Chief of Psychiatry, discusses behaviorism and Motivational Interviewing. Topics include compassion, applying behavioral concepts to change, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and integrating MI with radical behaviorism for patient language structuring.
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May 19, 2024 • 0sec

Ep 79 – MI & Health Coaching

MI and Health Coaching   Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Amanda Gabarda, EdD and Susan Butterworth, PhD to discuss health coaching and Motivational Interviewing. Dr. Gabarda is currently the Senior Director of Clinical Training & Development at UPMC Health Plan where she is responsible for designing, scaling, and evaluating evidence-based training, quality assurance, and health behavior change interventions for digital, telephonic, and in-person health coaching and care management. Dr. Gabarda is passionate about combining coaching and behavior change science to empower individuals to live their best and healthiest lives. She has a Bachelor and Master of Science in Exercise Science, a Master of Public Health, and a Doctorate of Education. She is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, and a Certified Health Education Specialist. Dr. Susan Butterworth is currently an Associate Professor at the Center for Health System Improvement at the University of Tennessee Health Science Center and Director of Patient Engagement for the Tennessee Heart Health Network. Susan is also the founder of Q-consult, LLC which provides consulting and training services to large organizations to improve patient engagement and patient-centered care. Her clinical background is exercise physiology and she received her doctoral degree in adult education and training with a cognate in health promotion from Virginia Commonwealth University. Susan specializes in the application of motivational interviewing-based health coaching interventions in healthcare and is well-published in this area. In addition, she has been awarded or served on multiple grants to assess the impact of health coaching interventions in healthcare organizations including health plans, hospitals, and clinics. She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Networking of Trainers (MINT) since 2002.   Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          5:33 – Amanda and Susan’s introduction and early MI stories        11:30 – How MI changed the delivery of health coaching       16:00 – The psychology of lifestyle change       23:00 – What has been the response to MI from clients and organizations        30:00 – Coaching as a “vehicle for learning and growing and transforming”        36:30 – Coaching as a brief intervention       42:45 – How does a health coach fit into the healthcare system       49:55 – What is the experience of being a health coach       58:00 – Research on MI and health coaching    1:05:30 – Amanda and Susan learning about artificial intelligence    1:09:20 – Real-play with Susan and Sebastian    1:18:00 – Real-play debrief     1:26:24 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: LinkedIn Amanda: linkedin.com/in/amanda-gabarda-edd-mph-nbc-hwc Susan: linkedin.com/in/susan-butterworth-qconsult   For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   The post Ep 79 – MI & Health Coaching appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Apr 14, 2024 • 1h 12min

Ep 78 – Self-Help MI

MI and Self-Help Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Michelle Drapkin, PhD, to discuss Motivational Interviewing and self-help. Dr. Drapkin has been working in the area of behavior change for over 20 years. She is the Owner/Director of the CBT Center and previously held roles in industry (Johnson and Johnson), academia (University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers) and federal government (Department of Veteran Affairs). She has dedicated her professional career to using psychological research to help people. She is a board-certified Clinical Psychologist and sees patients in her private practice, consults with healthcare tech start-ups, and delivers trainings and workshops on communication/motivation and health and wellbeing at work and in life. She is the sole author of The Motivational Interviewing Path to Personal Change: The Essential Workbook for Creating the Life You Want from New Harbinger Publications.     Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          4:42 – Michelle’s introduction and early MI story       10:55 – Enhancing motivation through behavioral principles       19:08 – “How does one do MI with oneself?”       24:20 – Self-compassion: Having a more effective relationship with our inner critic        30:20 – “A way of being with ourselves”       42:30 – Using Michelle’s self-help book       45:45 – Trying the “best self” exercise     1:08:25 – Michelle supporting her daughter    1:11:44 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledrapkin/  Website: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/  Link to Michelle’s book: https://cbtcenterofcentralnj.com/the-motivational-interviewing-path-to-personal-change/    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   All episodes The post Ep 78 – Self-Help MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 13min

Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury

Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Russha Knauer to discuss her work applying MI with people who have experienced a brain injury. Russha has a BA in psychology and a master’s degree in Criminal Justice Administration. She joined the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in San Diego in 2009.   Prior to joining the MINDSOURCE Brain Injury Network, she spent her 20 year career working in juvenile and criminal justice. She is interested in exploring how Motivational Interviewing can be adapted for use with people who have had an injury to the brain.    Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          5:05 – Russha’s introduction and early MI story: Learning and application of MI                             in juvenile justice settings       17:15 – Transition to working with people who have experienced brain injury       27:00 – Some challenges caring for people with brain injury       46:55 – Applications of MI    1:12:36 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: Email: russha.knauer@state.co.us  Website: https://mindsourcecolorado.org/    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP   All episodes The post Ep 77 – MI and Brain Injury appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Mar 4, 2024 • 1h 5min

Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue

Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Debra Collins, MA, LMFT to discuss MI as a way to reduce burnout and compassion fatigue. Debra has extensive experience in clinical practice, supervision and program management. She has been a program manager/clinical director in community-based clinics and has provided direct service, behavioral health consultation, program development, training, and supervision/coaching for a wide variety of social service, addiction and criminal justice settings.   Throughout her career Debra has organized and participated in Community Response Teams when communities have been faced with natural disasters, violent crimes, or other catastrophic events. She is an active member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) serving on the Reinstatement Committee and has presented at conferences, grand rounds, and panel discussions.    She is currently exploring how the Spirit of MI can support providers in reducing their risk of burnout and compassion fatigue and how the practice of MI might also be useful in helping providers explore their own ambivalence in utilizing self-care strategies.   Episode Index:           0:00 – Opening and episode preview          4:00 – Debra’s introduction and early MI story       15:40 – Burnout and compassion fatigue       19:30 – Where does the relationship go?       25:00 – How the MI spirit helps the helper        32:15 – Ask-Offer-Ask       39:00 – Taking better care of ourselves       51:48 – Being a “provider”     1:00:00 – Wondering how creativity intersects with wellness    1:05:14 – End of episode    Links and Contact Information: Email: debracollinsconsulting@gmail.com   Website: www.debracollinsconsulting.com    Resources Mentioned : Trauma Stewardship (2007). Authors: Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, Connie Burk https://traumastewardship.com/  Amishi Jha – Peak Mind https://amishi.com/  Compassionomics Authors: Stephen Trzeciak, MD, MPH Anthony Mazzarelli, MD, JD, MBE https://www.compassionomics.com/  Elizabeth Lesser https://www.facebook.com/ElizLesser/posts/739429870871482/?paipv=0&eav=AfbgpipK81xDeWhuBA8uX0WqQTCX7bChyB2ZVK8HG7J_gw697qCjMBtZzZ7otQCKzUk&_rdr    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP The post Ep 76 – MI For Burnout & Compassion Fatigue appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

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