Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
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Sep 1, 2025 • 1h 20min

Ep 89 – Doing and Being MI

Glenn and Sebastian bring you a different sort of episode. Recorded over three parts, plus a brief intro, they discuss a clinical scenario that Sebastian was involved with through the lens of Doing and Being MI. They consider the four elements of the MI spirit and discuss the technical element of evoking change talk. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 2:07 – Part I begins 6:15 – Overview of the group 18:15 – How do we know if we are being helpful? 34:28 – Part II begins 47:00 – How does change talk fit? 1:03:30 – Part III begins 1:20:06 – End of episode For suggestions, questions, and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 89 – Doing and Being MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 3min

Ep 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response

Episode 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Casey Jackson to discuss using Motivational Interviewing (MI) in crisis response situations. Casey is the CEO of the Institute for Individual and Organizational Change and an internationally recognised expert in evidence-based communication that drives real-world results. With over 40 years in behavioural health, Casey has trained thousands of professionals across healthcare, social services, first responders, and government—helping leaders and teams turn intention into lasting impact. He is a long-time member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and the lead author of the Motivational Interviewing Competency Assessment (MICA), a widely adopted tool for building fidelity in MI practice. Casey’s work centres on translating powerful communication strategies into practical tools that empower people to lead with clarity, connect with purpose, and create lasting change. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 6:25 – Casey’s introduction and early MI story 10:30 – “How do we help people help people?” 13:45 – Bridging law enforcement with mental health 19:50 – Deescalating the brain with MI 29:15 – Helping police officers respond to people in crisis 34:15 – The five intentions/mindsets: 1) Activation; 2) Guiding; 3) Expressing accurate empathy; 4) Partnership; and 5) Evoking 43:05 – Beyond reflective listening 58:30 – Opening an MI-based clinic 1:03:16 – End of episode Links and resources: Email: casey.jackson@ifioc.com For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 1min

Ep 87 – Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing

 Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing   Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Daniel Mullin, PsyD, MPH to discuss Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing. Dan is the Director of the Center for IPC and a Professor in the Department of Family Medicine and Community Health at UMass Chan Medical School. Dan is a clinician, educator, researcher, and consultant specializing in the integration of behavioral health and primary care services. He maintains a clinical practice embedded in the Barre Family Health Center, a rural family medicine residency practice in Massachusetts. Dan is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers and provides training in Motivational Interviewing to healthcare providers. He is a developer of the Practice Integration Profile, a measure of the integration of behavioral and primary care services.         Episode index:        0:00 – Episode intro      4:30 – Dan’s introduction and early MI story    10:08 – What is helpful about MI in high risk situations?    16:15 – “Your patient begins to teach you…”    21:10 – Making decisions based on thoughts    25:15 – IPC and why MI is a good fit    32:00 – Four principles of IPC: 1) Access; 2) Coordination; 3) Continuity; 4) Comprehensiveness    44:10 – Expanding the scope of practice for medical and behavioral health practitioners    48:35 – How MI offers a common language for integrated primary care    51:51 – Empathy as a way to “do no harm”    57:00 – Dan’s department celebrating its 50 year anniversary 1:01:02 – End of episode   Links and resources: Center for Integrated Primary Care website – https://www.umassmed.edu/cipc/ For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan     For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 87 – Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 7min

Ep 86 – Becoming a MINTie

Join Colin O’Driscoll, an accredited psychotherapist and MINT Training Coordinator, Kenzie Leffingwell, a passionate advocate for suicide prevention, and Mark Bowley, an AOD workforce development officer. They discuss the rewarding journey of becoming a MINTie and the challenges faced by aspiring trainers. The conversation highlights the power of community, the significance of experiential learning, and the integration of motivational interviewing in crisis support. They inspire listeners to pursue education in mental health and emphasize the importance of compassion in the field.
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Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 30min

Ep 85 – Ambivalence and Motivational Interviewing

Dr. Allan Zuckoff is a clinical psychologist with over 30 years dedicated to motivational interviewing research and training. In this discussion, he explores ambivalence as a strength in therapeutic settings. Zuckoff emphasizes the importance of integrating values into practice, fostering strong client relationships. He navigates the complexities of emotional resilience and the significance of recognizing anticipatory discord in therapy. The conversation also highlights how curiosity about client struggles can lead to meaningful behavior change.
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Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 8min

Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction 

Episode 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction Glenn and Sebastian welcomed David C. Hodgins, Ph.D., R.Psych., FCAHS, FRSC, to the program to discuss MI for gambling addiction. Dr. Hodgins is a professor in the Program in Clinical Psychology in the Department of Psychology, University of Calgary and is director of the Addictive Behaviours Lab at the University of Calgary. Dr. Hodgins is also a research coordinator with the Alberta Gambling Research Institute. His research interests focus on various aspects of addictive behaviours including relapse and recovery from substance abuse and gambling disorders. Dr. Hodgins teaches in the clinical psychology program and has an active cadre of graduate students. He maintains a private practice in Calgary in addition to providing consultation to organizations internationally.      Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:56 – David’s background and early MI story  17:22 – Early work with people who gamble and the development of a self-help book 22:25 – Differences and similarities between gambling and other addictions 29:20 – MI for gambling  37:00 – Change talk and sustain talk in the context of MI with people who gamble 48:40 – Supporting the autonomy of people who gamble 53:40 – What is important for a gambling clinician to know? 1:01:38 – Working with industry to support harm reduction efforts 1:07:30 – End of episode     Contact info and related links: Email: dhodgins@ucalgary.ca  Learn more about David’s research and team: www.addiction.ucalgary.ca Workbooks and other self-help material: https://ucalgary.ca/labs/addictive-behaviours/resources/workbooks      For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction  appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Sep 9, 2024 • 1h 22min

Ep 83 – MI with Couples

Episode 83 – MI with couples Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tyrel Starks, PhD, onto the podcast to discuss his work on MI with couples.  A South Dakota native, Dr. Starks studied two years at Oberlin Conservatory before returning to the University of South Dakota to complete his undergraduate degree in psychology. He earned his PhD in child-clinical psychology from Southern Illinois University Carbondale in 2009. After a post-doctoral fellowship at Hunter College, he returned to join the faculty of the Psychology Department in 2014 and is now a professor. For more than 15 years, he has studied relationships and health, particularly substance use and HIV-related health in sexual minority men. The development of motivational interviewing with couples has been at the heart of this work. A licensed clinical psychologist and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, he is active as a trainer and clinical supervisor.         Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 04:42 – Tyrel’s journey from music to MI 13:15 – Intersection of HIV and substance use 21:25 – Early days of Tyrel’s work with couples 26:50 – MI with couples  31:10 – Relationship functioning before talking about change 38:00 – Balancing seeking consensus with evoking change talk 50:30 – Unique shifts for the practitioner: Introspection and use of language 57:20 – How might communication within the couple change? 1:12:20 – Future directions for MI with couples 1:15:45 – Cultivating common ground from political disagreements 1:21:59 – End of episode   Contact info and related links:   Email: tstarks@hunter.cuny.edu    Learn more about Dr. Starks’ research and team: https://www.hunterrhrt.org/    Read Dr. Starks’ blog about LGBTQ+ relationships:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/queer-relationships-no-straight-lines    Learn more about MI with couples:https://global.oup.com/academic/product/motivational-interviewing-with-couples-9780197549643?cc=us&lang=en&   MI in Groups: https://www.guilford.com/books/Motivational-Interviewing-in-Groups/Wagner-Ingersoll-Contributors/9781462507924    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 83 – MI with Couples appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Aug 5, 2024 • 1h 12min

Ep 82 – MI at Home

Episode 82 – MI at Home Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen Rollnick, PhD to the podcast to discuss the application of MI to conversations with family members. Steve is a clinical psychologist and Honorary Distinguished Professor in the School of Medicine, Cardiff, UK, and a co-founder of motivational interviewing.   He grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and lives in Cardiff, Wales. He was a practising psychologist in the UK National Health Service for 16 years, and then became a teacher and researcher on the subject of communication and behaviour change.     He has authored and co-authored books on motivational interviewing (Miller & Rollnick, 1991; 2001; 2012), and on applications in health care (Rollnick, Mason & Butler, 1999; Rollnick, Miller & Butler, 2007; 2022), schools (Rollnick, Kaplan & Rutschman, 2016) and sport (Rollnick, Fader, Breckon & Moyers, 2019).   He has published widely in scientific journals and has taught practitioners in many countries and continents. He has retired from his academic career and now focuses on projects in elite sport and healthcare.     Episode Index: 00:00 – Episode preview 07:18 – MI at home – where the idea started 13:08 – Steve’s story about working with mothers with babies infected with AIDS 20:00 – Steve recalls an article about MI at home written by his son Jake as a young man 27:30 – What else is there to change besides behavior? 46:50 – The importance of “restraint”  59:00 – Conversations with others at home (not just kids) 1:07:50 – Steve’s work with first responders and elite sportsmen 1:11:46 – End of episode   Contact information Website: www.stephenrollnick.com   X: @stephenrollnick    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 82 – MI at Home appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jul 8, 2024 • 1h 4min

Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance

MI for Sport and Performance Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Ben Freakley, CMPC on the podcast to discussed MI in sport and performance settings. Ben is a leader in the field of applied sport and performance psychology with a career spanning over two decades. He is the founder and CEO of Ready, Set, Resilient, which provides sports and performance psychology services to individuals, teams, and organizations.  Throughout his career, Ben has held several significant positions. He served as the Head of Mental Performance for the Toronto Blue Jays, where he led the development and delivery of mental skills programs across all levels of the organization. He was also the inaugural head coach and general manager of Tormenta FC in the United Soccer League (USL). His expertise extends to tactical environments, having worked as the performance psychology coach with the 75th Ranger Regiment of the United States Army Special Operations Forces.     Ben holds a doctoral degree in Sport and Performance Psychology with an emphasis in Clinical Mental Health Counseling. He is also a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC) through the Association for Applied Sport Psychology (AASP). His research focus areas include leadership preferences of NCAA Division One coaches and psychological frameworks that promote human flourishing.   Before his full-time work in sport and performance psychology, Ben spent over a decade as an NCAA College Soccer coach demonstrating his versatility and depth in coaching, psychology of performance, and team culture.    In his private practice, Ben works with executives and businesses, professional athletes and teams, and NCAA college athletics programs to help them evaluate and enhance their processes, performance, and well-being.  Ben is a sought-after speaker on topics such as resilience, mental performance, motivation, leadership, and organizational culture.     Episode index: 00:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:27 – Ben intro and early MI story 08:35 – Autonomy support in sport and military settings 15:01 – Shifting between following, guiding, and directing 17:20 – MI spirit in sport 24:45 – “Being a warm fire” 28:00 – Progressive sporting institutions 41:00 – What is success beyond winning? 43:00 – Situations in sport when MI helps 54:45 – Key points for coaches to learn and apply 1:04:14 – End of episode   Contact information: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ben-freakley-edd-cmpc-a5036bb1 Website: rsrcoaching.com   Email: bencfreakley@gmail.com    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 81 – MI for Sport & Performance appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.
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Jun 24, 2024 • 57min

Ep 80 – Motivational Interviewing & Behaviourism

Dr. James Anderson, Chief of Psychiatry, discusses behaviorism and Motivational Interviewing. Topics include compassion, applying behavioral concepts to change, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and integrating MI with radical behaviorism for patient language structuring.

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