

Between 2 Racks
KILO Crew
Welcome to Between 2 Racks, the podcast where strength training meets strategy, brought to you by the expert coaches at KILO. This is your go-to source for actionable insights and in-depth discussions on all things strength training program design and periodization.Hosted by seasoned professionals with years of hands-on experience, we deliver practical knowledge to elevate your coaching game and transform your understanding of effective training.Each episode is packed with expert advice and real-world applications. Tune in, take notes, and transform your approach to fitness. Let's kick it!
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Jan 19, 2026 • 50min
The Intermediate Trap: Why Most Lifters Stall After the First Few Years
Send us a textMost lifters stall after the first few years because the strategies that work early stop driving progress. The intermediate phase is where technique is more consistent, load selection becomes more accurate, and improvements slow down fast unless training evolves.In this episode, the KILO Crew defines what “intermediate” really means, beyond training age. We break down why progress stalls, how the shift from skill development to higher intensity work changes programming, and why tracking, compliance, and load management start to matter more than ever. We also discuss strength ratios, weak link remedials, when to introduce specialty techniques, and how monotony and strain can combine to create plateaus and setbacks.This episode is for lifters and coaches who feel stuck in the in-between stage and want a clearer roadmap for what comes next.0:00 Introduction0:23 What is Intermediate2:25 Relative Strength Ratios6:11 Why Progress Slows8:05 Periodization for Intermediates13:34 Exercise Selection18:50 Specialty Techniques21:19 Recognizing Plateaus23:46 Monotony and Strain27:43 Volume Tolerance32:40 Remedial Work Strategy45:18 Tips for Success48:32 Compliance Matters50:12 ClosingStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Jan 12, 2026 • 54min
Why Most Training Programs Fail: When Good Exercises Aren’t Enough
Send us a textMany training programs fail not because the exercises are bad, but because the decisions around them break down over time. Using the right lifts does not guarantee progress if sequencing, loading, and follow through are inconsistent.In this episode, the KILO Crew breaks down why exercise selection alone cannot carry a program. We discuss movement patterns versus specific lifts, how impatience and constant changes disrupt progression, and why tracking and load management matter more than variety. The conversation also covers effort, buffers, and why familiarity in primary movements creates clearer feedback and better long term outcomes.This episode is for coaches and lifters who want to understand why programs stall even when they look solid on paper, and what actually keeps progress moving forward.0:00 Introduction and Episode Topic0:23 Why Good Exercises Aren't Enough4:02 The Importance of Primary Movements9:55 The Big Three and the Primate13:48 Inconsistent Effort in Training Programs19:56 Understanding Buffers and Reps in Reserve24:18 Why Primary Movements Should Stay Consistent32:10 The Nuance of Step Loading39:20 The Importance of Patience in Programming43:09 Client Boredom vs Progression48:34 Final Thoughts on Program Failure50:14 Long Term Programming Mistakes53:43 Closing RemarksStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Jan 5, 2026 • 1h 2min
Rapid Fire Q&A: Optimal Reps, Resistance Curve, Tactical, Tech, Macros & More
Send us a textHappy New Year and welcome to 2026! In this Rapid Fire Q&A episode of Between 2 Racks, the KILO Crew kicks things off with a quick update on what’s ahead this year, including the final live course dates at our facility, upcoming travel seminars, and what online courses are coming next.Then we dive into your questions, starting with the difference between “optimal reps” and context driven rep selection, and why the internet’s obsession with one perfect rep range is missing the point. We also break down resistance curves, how different loading modalities change the stress profile of an exercise, and how to actually think about resistance curve vs strength curve without overcomplicating it.From there, we get into periodizing training for tactical and hybrid athletes who need year round readiness, how to use baseline KPIs, and why parallel and emphasis models often beat sequential plans for these populations. We also discuss whether tech is making programming smarter or more complicated, how to interpret data without letting it dictate decisions, and why testing only matters if you understand what it actually carries over to.We wrap with a practical conversation on macro tracking for gen pop clients, when it helps, when it becomes a distraction, and how to use tracking as education instead of another source of stress.Send in your questions and we’ll keep the Rapid Fire episodes coming.Stay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Dec 29, 2025 • 43min
Rapid Fire Q&A: Single Leg Squats, Meso Modifications, Workflow & More
Send us a textIn this Rapid Fire Q&A episode of Between 2 Racks, the KILO Crew answers your programming and coaching questions with real world context, not theory for theory’s sake.We break down where the single-leg squat actually fits in a system, and why it is not interchangeable with split squats and lunges. From there, we dig into meso and macro adjustments when life happens, including how to handle missed sessions from sickness, small injuries, travel, and schedule chaos without turning your plan into a constant restart.You’ll also hear our take on shoulder mobility limitations for back squatting, how we think about body composition planning across a full year without swinging between extremes, and what changes when you program for different sport demands and different athlete builds.We wrap with chin up progression troubleshooting and a practical workflow conversation for coaches managing high weekly session volume while still delivering detailed, individualized programming.If you want clearer programming decisions, better progression choices, and a more sustainable coaching process, this one is for you.00:00 Introduction & Rapid Fire Q&A Start00:19 Single Leg Squat vs. Split Squat05:29 Training Splits for Four Days In a Row08:27 Addressing Shoulder Mobility for Back Squats10:47 Adjusting Training Cycles for Sickness or Injury17:45 Structuring a Body Composition Year26:05 Strength Training for Sports: Commonalities & Differences30:51 Training Large vs. Small Athletes34:54 Chin-Up Progression for Weak Links38:57 Managing Programming for 40 Clients43:22 Episode Wrap-Up & Holiday WishesStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Dec 22, 2025 • 46min
Effort Is a Skill: Why Most Lifters Don’t Train Hard Enough
Send us a textIn this episode of Between 2 Racks, we break down one of the most overlooked realities in strength training. Most lifters, including many intermediates, never train as hard as they think they do. We explain why effort is a skill, why load selection is often the limiting factor, and why technical breakdown is not the same thing as muscular failure.We discuss how novices struggle to push because they haven’t yet learned to recruit high-threshold motor units, why intermediates hesitate even when they know better, and how advanced lifters apply effort with precision instead of chaos. You’ll hear the difference between discomfort and true failure, why compound lifts require technical failure rather than sloppy grinding, and how poor early training can create long-term fear around pushing yourself.We also share practical ways coaches can teach effort safely: extended set methods, rest-pause variations, controlled isolation work, metabolic finishers, and step loading that actually exposes a trainee to meaningful intensity. The goal isn’t reckless training. It’s learning to train smart and train hard, in the right place, at the right time, with the right intent.Whether you’re a coach or a lifter, this episode will help you understand what real effort feels like, why it matters, and how developing this skill becomes the difference between progress and stagnation.0:00 Introduction0:34 Load Selection and Training Intensity1:26 Fear and Mental Blocks in Training2:21 Motor Unit Recruitment in Novices4:43 Skill Development in Complex Movements6:29 Why Novices Struggle with Effort9:30 Step Loading and Intensity Spread12:25 Teaching Failure with Simple Exercises14:14 Coaching Multi Joint Movements17:13 Skill Acquisition Before Hard Training19:40 Technical vs Muscular Failure22:00 High Threshold Motor Units24:17 Loading Mistakes and Plateaus28:21 Teaching Effort Through Training31:25 Novice Training Model Structure33:09 The Importance of Real Coaching35:34 Training PTSD and Recovery38:10 Training Intent and Volume Management41:21 Volume Quality and Recovery43:03 Extended Set Techniques44:03 Train Smart Train Hard PhilosophyStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Dec 15, 2025 • 52min
Strength Over Hype: More Trends, More Opinions, Part 2
Send us a textIn this follow-up to last week’s conversation, we continue breaking down the some of the most talked-about training trends and give our honest take on where they help, where they mislead, and how coaches should think about them.We dig into minimalist low-frequency training, why “do more with less” is often misapplied, and the difference between maintaining strength and actually developing it. We also unpack the rise of hybrid strength and conditioning models, strength-endurance challenges, and why training and testing are not the same thing.From glute and lower-body obsessed programming to electrostimulation suits, biohacking culture, and recovery gadgets, we explore how good ideas get turned into extremes and what coaches must consider before adopting any trend. We also discuss misconceptions around periodization, why long-term planning still matters, and how female cycle considerations can be useful when applied through an individualized lens rather than as blanket rules.This episode is designed to help coaches filter out noise, evaluate methods with context, and stay grounded in principles that actually move lifters forward. If you work with clients or care about your own development, this discussion will give you a clearer, more practical framework for navigating today’s constantly shifting training landscape.0:00 Welcome and Introduction 0:36 Minimalist Low Frequency Training 6:46 Hybrid Strength and Conditioning 17:55 Strength Endurance Challenges 21:31 Glute and Lower Body Trends 26:58 Recovery Gadgets and Biohacking 32:14 Electrostimulation Strength Suits 39:18 The No Periodization Trend 44:45 Training and the Menstrual Cycle 49:15 Final Thoughts and Outro Stay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Dec 8, 2025 • 55min
Strength Over Hype: Our Honest Take on Training Trends
Send us a textIn this episode of Between 2 Racks, we break down some of the training trends circulating through the fitness industry and give our real, practical perspective on each one. From lengthened partials to failure-focused methods, science-based exercise selection, warm-up minimalism, machine only lifting, and tech driven training, we discuss where these ideas fit, where they fall short, and how coaches can apply them without losing sight of what actually drives progress.You will hear why trends often take a good idea too far, why the industry swings from one extreme to the next, and how to evaluate a method through the lens of long term strength, movement skill, and sustainable development. We also talk about the difference between useful tools and unnecessary noise, how training context shapes decision making, and why the best programs blend principles instead of chasing the next hot concept.If you coach clients or train yourself, this episode gives you the clarity needed to understand which trends deserve attention, which ones are misunderstood, and how to stay grounded in what truly builds strength.00:00 Introduction & Overview00:38 Lengthened Partials & Long Muscle Length Training12:00 Training to Failure & Beyond Failure Methods27:43 Science-Based Exercise Selection33:14 Skipping Warmups38:09 Tech-Driven Training (Wearables, Data Tools)49:25 Machine-Only Training52:49 Wrap-Up: Context, Nuance, and Middle Ground54:26 Final Thoughts & OutroStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 5min
Strength Needs Structure: How to Plan the Year and Avoid Program Hopping
Send us a textIn this episode of Between 2 Racks, we break down how to set up your strongest and most productive year of training. With 2026 right around the corner, this is the perfect time to think about long-term planning, goal setting, and how your macrocycles should build on one another for real progress.We talk through why goal hopping and constant program changes stall results, and how true progress comes from sequencing the right phases in the right order. You will hear how to transition out of the holiday season, how to decide when a fat loss phase actually makes sense, and how to use nutrition-driven fat loss versus metabolic training based on a client’s training age and skill level.We cover how to assess movement limitations, how to use PAAB to build a foundation at the start of the year, when to reintroduce strength work, and how to think about macrocycles two, three, and four as you lead clients toward their peak. We also discuss relative strength testing, long-term phase potentiation, and why power training at the end of the year can set-up an even better start to the next one.Whether you are coaching clients or planning your own training for 2026, this episode gives you the frameworks, decision rules, and practical sequencing you need to create your best year of strength development.If you want structured programming for your own training, check out our TrainHeroic programs like Mass Avenue, Burn Borough, Tempo Town, and Intensity at trainkilo.com00:00 Setting Up for Your Best Year of Strength Training00:54 The Problem with Program Hopping02:29 Sequencing Training Phases Correctly04:36 Planning Around Fat Loss Phases08:27 Starting with Movement Assessment10:51 Why Body Composition Matters First14:27 Considering Training Age and Client Goals17:42 Using PAB as Foundation Training19:56 Linear Progression for Year Long Success23:13 Long Term Periodization Benefits26:28 Training to Stay Jacked31:14 Maintaining Proximity to Peak Condition36:37 Building Foundation in Phase One39:32 Linear vs Undulatory Approaches42:22 Assessing Relative Strength47:37 The Importance of Getting Stronger50:41 Benefits of Power Training55:21 Reactive Periodization for Gen Pop Clients1:01:05 Tracking Client ReadinessStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 3min
The Evolution of Training: How Programming Changes With Training Age
Send us a textIn this episode, we dive into the real meaning of training age and why strength training must evolve as you move from novice to intermediate to advanced. We break down how each stage responds to training, why consistency matters more than variety in the early years, and how long-term progress depends on learning the right skills at the right time.We discuss what qualifies someone as a true beginner, even if they have trained for years, and why coaching intent, movement quality, frequency, and nervous system efficiency all influence where a client actually falls on the progression curve. You will hear how we think about movement competency, relative strength scores, motor learning, and why advanced methods only work when the foundational skills are in place.From periodization models to exercise selection to recovery strategies, we explain how programming decisions change across the stages and why advanced trainees must manage fatigue differently than anyone else. We also discuss the pitfalls of program hopping, the importance of repetition for motor learning, and how to guide gen pop clients who may remain in the beginner category for most of their training years.Whether you coach athletes, work with general population clients, or want to understand your own training age more clearly, this episode gives you a full framework for assessing where someone is, what they need next, and how to progress them with purpose.00:00 Introduction & Overview00:29 What is Training Age?04:34 What Makes Someone Advanced?09:04 Defining the Novice Stage13:18 The Importance of Repetition in Training20:18 Strength Training for Bone Density25:25 Moving from Novice to Intermediate32:51 Steps Within the Novice Stage43:11 Athletes & Training Age46:37 Exercise Selection for Intermediates54:31 Moving to Advanced: Earning the Right57:56 Managing Recovery for Advanced Trainees1:04:20 Avoiding Regression as You Advance1:13:28 Final Thoughts: Don’t Rush the ProcessStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com

Nov 17, 2025 • 1h 34min
Moving the Needle: Optimization, Performance & Mindset with Christian LaValle
Send us a textIn this conversation with Christian LaValle of Metabolic Elite, we take a grounded look at what truly moves the needle in performance and recovery. Instead of chasing trends or piling on more variables, we explore how strategic supplementation, consistent habits, and clear decision making create real progress for both coaches and their clients.Place your order today https://www.metabolicelite.co/Apply coupon code KILO15Follow Christian LaValle @christianlavalle5 Follow James LaValle @therealjimlavalleChristian breaks down the supplement categories most coaches underutilize, why absorption and delivery systems matter, and how their liposomal technology changes what you can expect from a product. We also discuss the limitations of the optimize everything mindset, where coaches often overcomplicate their own health, and how to approach supplementation through precision rather than excess.The discussion extends beyond the technical. Christian shares what he has changed his mind about in the last year, why emotional balance is a core requirement for real performance, and how personal awareness shapes long term sustainability. This episode blends practical application, physiology, and real world coaching insight to help you evaluate where to direct your attention and where to simplify.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:47 Christian's Background and Journey to Metabolic Elite03:06 The Mission Behind Metabolic Elite06:53 Liposomal Technology Explained10:07 Research and Bioavailability Studies13:13 Product Deep Dive: Tetra Cur and Viraxall15:54 EndurO2 Aerobic Performance and HRV18:55 Glutathione and Liver Health21:01 BPC 157, KPV, and Injury Recovery Protocols22:45 Synapsin Cognitive Performance and Brain Health28:46 Product Stacking and Cycling Strategies33:34 BPC 157 as a Preventative Measure36:38 Growing Up in the Performance World43:27 Balance, Optimization Culture, and Stress48:19 Minimum Effective Dose and Long Term Training50:08 Longevity vs Being Your Best Now54:16 Blood Work and Supplement Periodization57:11 Overrated Trend Cold Plunge Culture63:37 Using Athlete Injuries to Push Methods65:00 Jim Lavalle's Legacy and Principles71:56 Underutilized Supplements Adaptogens75:28 Mitochondrial Function and Immunomodulators77:43 Misunderstood Supplements Berberine and Amino Acids81:26 Personal Recovery IndicatorsStay Connected with KILO: Have Questions? Send them to us here and we will answer in our Rapid Fire Episodes! Subscribe: Never miss an episode! Subscribe to Between 2 Racks on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Visit Our Website: For more information, and to register for our courses, visit TRAINKILO.COM. Follow Us: Keep up with the latest updates and join our community on YouTube, and Instagram. Follow the Crew: Kelsey, Stephane, Pauric & Alexandra Want to Contact us?: Reach out to us at info@kilostrengthsociety.com


