
The UK Psych Health and Safety Podcast
Discover the antidote to "wellbeing washing" with our podcast!
Hosted by Sheila Lord from BMR Health and Wellbeing and Dr. Jacqui Wilmshurst, a Chartered Psychologist specializing in Psychological Health, Safety, and Wellbeing at work.
Join us as we delve into the core of real workplace wellbeing, moving beyond mere add-ons to integrate good work practices throughout your organisation. We explore psychological health and safety's significance and offer actionable steps for businesses to elevate their wellbeing support with a practical and proactive approach.
Each week, we're joined by guests from HR, academia, health and safety, and senior business leadership, sharing their valuable experiences and insights. Whether you're an HR professional, a business leader, or dedicated to fostering a healthy work environment, this podcast is for you.
Latest episodes

Aug 17, 2021 • 45min
Impact of life on safety and performance in the workplace - with Jason Anker MBE
Today, Sheila and Peter are going to talk to Jason Anker, who is an MBE and founder of Proud to be Safe. Jason talks about the impact that life outside work can have on safety and performance in the workplace. Many organisations still say that employees need to leave their problems at home and that this is not a work issue. Jason tells about his journey past and present as we focus this episode on the lived experience of what can happen when we are not focused on the psychological health, safety and welfare of our employees.

Aug 10, 2021 • 43min
The role of occupational health services in psychosocial risk management - with Su Chantry
In this episode, Sheila and Peter talk with Su Chantry, Occupational Health Nurse Manager at Williams Racing. Su explains the role of occupational health services in psychosocial risk management and the promotion of mental health and wellbeing at work. Lastly, Su talks about the release of the new ISO 45003 standard.

Aug 3, 2021 • 45min
Managing Burnout - with Dr. Michael Drayton
In this episode, our hosts Sheila Lord and Peter Kelly speak with Dr Michael Drayton, an Executive Coach, Organisational Consultant and Clinical Psychologist, and author of the book Anti-burnout. Michael speaks about what is Burnout at the workplace and how that impacts our life. He defines Burnout as an occupational phenomenon caused by chronic stress.
If you're interested in purchasing Michael's book on Amazon, click here: https://www.amazon.com/Anti-burnout-Create-Psychologically-High-performance-Organisation-ebook/dp/B08PKNC9K9
To get a copy of the free preview click here: https://www.bmrhealthandwellbeing.co.uk/resource-library

Jul 27, 2021 • 35min
The Role of business leaders in Psychological Health and Safety - with Claire Farrow
In this episode, Peter and Sheila talk with Claire Farrow, Global Director of Content, MADWorldSummit & makeadifference.media. Claire speaks about the work that she does and how she contributes to mental health wellbeing. She says that it is important for business leaders to train their staff and put in place programmes within their organisations for mental health wellbeing.

Jul 20, 2021 • 1h 33min
Live Panel Event - ISO 45003: International views on the new standard for psych health and safety
Our partners over at FlourishDx ran a fantastic live event a couple of weeks ago and we are happy to be able to share this content with you as a podcast if you didn’t get the chance to catch up with it. A great event with lots of fantastic insights from co-host Jason Van Schie, Peter Kelly and Mary Ann Baynton.
Peter and Mary Ann share the history of the development of the UK and Canadian standards, and we chat about ISO 45003, the new standard for workplace psychological health and safety.

Jul 13, 2021 • 34min
Discussing Psych Health and Safety from a corporate governance perspective - with Gerard Forlin
In this episode, Peter and Sheila talk with Gerard Forlin. He is a health & safety and corporate governance specialist with a global client base in over 65 countries. Industries worked in include transport, aviation, mining and fire among others.
Gerard’s broad practice covers civil, criminal and commercial litigation.
In this episode, we discuss with Gerard regarding:
- Work he does in H&S
- His thoughts around the global impact on mental health as a result of the pandemic as people transition back into the workplace
- His work on ISO 45001
- His thoughts on ISO 45003
- Corporate responsibility and the use of the guidance standards
- His new book.

Jul 6, 2021 • 42min
Development of the new ISO 45003 standard - with Sally Swingewood
In this episode, Peter and Sheila talk with Sally Swingewood, lead standards development manager, BSI.
Sally has been involved in the development of the new ISO 45003 standard (with Peter of course). The standard has just been released and in this episode, Sally and Peter will talk about the development of the standard and the potential impact of this for businesses wanting to step up their workplace wellbeing strategy.

Jun 29, 2021 • 39min
Psychological Health in Education Sector - with Dr. Gilda Scarfe
In this episode, we chat with Dr Gilda Scarfe, CEO and founder of positive ED.
Gilda tells us about positive psychology models -PERMA and SCARFE, and the narrative around negative mental health language.
Gilda speaks about the impact of covid on teachers/students and how to keep staff and students positive and well.
Finally, we have a chat about how to maintain positive psychological health in schools and advice for teachers and students.

Jun 22, 2021 • 46min
Implementing Systematic Programs for Psych Health - with Joelle Mitchell
In this episode, our hosts speak with Joelle Mitchell who is head of Psychological Health and Safety, Organisational psychologist, Podcaster and FlourishDx enthusiast.
The topics covered in this episode are:
- How to implement systemic programs for psych health
- Importance of leadership commitment
- Key factors for success
- Common pitfalls
The closing question is: What would be your advice to business leaders, H&S professionals regarding psychological health?
Thanks for listening

Jun 15, 2021 • 39min
Discussing Psych Health and Safety in the Aviation Industry - with Paul Cullen
Sheila and Peter are joined with special guest Paul Cullen, an aviation wellbeing consultant. Paul shares his experience and role during what has been the toughest year ever for the aviation industry. Paul also talks about the common mental health issues in the industry.