
Retail Gets Real
Retail impacts everyone, everywhere, every day. Join the National Retail Federation for authentic, insightful conversations with the industry's most interesting people. Hear retail executives, industry experts, entrepreneurs and influencers discuss trends, their career stories and the future of retail. Learn more at retailgetsreal.com.
Latest episodes

Jul 31, 2017 • 18min
#13 S3 Active’s journey from pop-up to permanent storefront
Sarween Salih had a successful consulting career, but her undeniable passion was for fitness and fashion. She started an athleisure company as a pop-up in the back of a gym where she was teaching fitness classes, which ultimately led to a permanent storefront in Washington, D.C. Listen to this week’s episode to hear how this small retailer is building a scalable business.

Jul 24, 2017 • 20min
#12 Emerging trends in urban shopping experiences
Consumption-oriented retail concepts like shopping malls are transitioning to experience-based urban developments like CityCenterDC in the heart of downtown Washington. The mixed-use property is a unique draw for residents and visitors alike, including international tourists. On this week’s episode, hear from CityCenterDC General Manager Timothy Lowery and Hines Senior Manager of Corporate Communications Whitney Burns as they describe the inner workings of large urban developments and how their public space appeals to a wide variety of customers. From free yoga classes and farmers markets that attract foot traffic to strategic brand selection, Lowery and Burns explain how they’ve worked with retailers and the community to create the hottest space in town.

Jul 17, 2017 • 25min
#11 Everything you think you know about lobbyists is probably wrong
Lobbyists have to counter many misconceptions, and you might be surprised to hear that “a good lobbyist is really ethical,” says David French, NRF’s senior vice president of government affairs. On this week’s episode, French joins NRF’s Bill Thorne and Susan Reda for a candid discussion about how lobbying works and how NRF helps tell the story of retail on Capitol Hill. French describes how he communicates with members of Congress and members of the world’s largest retail trade association.

Jul 10, 2017 • 19min
#10 Small business success requires constant evolution
Cary Kelly’s passion for cooking led the former executive coach to open her first food retail business. Over the years, Kelly and her company have evolved constantly to stay on top of changing trends. Rebranding her culinary marketplace as The Cookery and customizing each location to suit the neighborhood has helped the company’s stores gain a loyal following. On this week’s episode, Kelly explains why she measures success by employee and customer satisfaction and shares lessons learned from expanding her business.

Jul 3, 2017 • 30min
#9 How the STORES Top 100 Retailers stay on top
STORES Magazine Editor Susan Reda has covered retail through its glory days and challenging times. Reda shares how companies on the 2017 list of Top 100 Retailers constantly innovate to stay relevant, using technology and customer insights to provide compelling omnichannel shopping experiences. Listen to this week’s episode to learn which companies top this year’s list, and hear Reda’s predictions for the next big trend in retail.

Jun 26, 2017 • 28min
#8 The future of the retail store
Bluemercury has 140 stores across the United States and is opening three new locations every week. On this episode, co-founder and COO Barry Beck explains how the brand stays ahead of changing retail trends. While technology is an important part of the experience, Beck says success is more about understanding evolving consumer behavior. Listen to this week’s episode to hear more about the company’s strategy and Beck’s views on the future of retail.

Jun 19, 2017 • 18min
#7 In search of a better fit
If you’re the type of guy who’s getting rid of your last piece of IKEA furniture, you probably want your clothes to fit properly. Philip Soriano had a career in corporate finance when he discovered that men’s dress shirts just don’t fit as advertised and decided to do something about it. Soriano’s company, Hugh & Crye, has found success by taking a different approach to sizing and listening to what customers want. On this week’s episode, Soriano shares his entrepreneurial journey — from starting an e-commerce business to expanding offline — with co-hosts Bill Thorne and Tony Fontana. Listen to Soriano’s advice on starting a business, growing a brand and deciding where to invest resources.

Jun 12, 2017 • 19min
#6 Retail’s evolution requires a focus on talent development
Shopping is changing, and that means the way retailers do business is changing, too. On this week’s episode, NRF co-hosts Bill Thorne and Jessica Hibbard talk with former Macy’s CMO Martine Reardon and NRF’s Ellen Davis about the evolution of the industry. To successfully compete and offer experiences that delight consumers, retailers are placing an emphasis on recruitment and talent development. The NRF Foundation is helping job seekers connect with these retail career opportunities with an education and credentialing program called RISE Up.

Jun 5, 2017 • 21min
#5 How Nat Geo connects content, community and commerce
A retail store may not be the first thing that comes to mind when you think of a world-renowned publishing company like National Geographic. But Jill Dvorak, director of merchandising and marketing at National Geographic Partners, loves the challenge of connecting merchandise to the brand’s ethos of exploration. In this week’s episode, Dvorak sits down with NRF’s Artemis Berry, Jessica Hibbard and Bill Thorne to share her retail career story and discuss the connection between content, community and commerce. We also talk about marketing in the digital age, keeping up with online marketing trends and how social media has impacted e-commerce.

May 29, 2017 • 19min
#4 Growing a small business, one scoop at a time
For most people, ice cream is an edible treat. For Victoria Lai, it’s a passion and a business. On this episode of Retail Gets Real, co-hosts Bill Thorne and Tony Fontana sit down with the owner and founder of Ice Cream Jubilee, a Washington, D.C., company that has been on more than one list of top ice cream shops in America. Lai shares her experiences developing unique ice cream flavors and growing her small retail business. Lai’s story starts with an enthusiastic headfirst dive into the world of food manufacturing and retail. We hear how her brand’s growth has coincided with the development of her shop’s D.C. neighborhood, and what she’s learned about expansion, customer satisfaction and the importance of social media.