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Jun 10, 2021 • 50min

Prof. Johanna Peetz: Personal Spending, Time Perception, and Close Relationships (EP.153)

Today we speak to Professor Johanna Peetz about how the errors people make about predicting their futures affect financial planning and relationships. Professor Peetz is an Associate Professor of Psychology at Carleton University and her three main research interests are time perception, personal spending, and close relationships. We kick the conversation off on the topic of biased spending estimates, the idea that people are bad at budgeting, and Professor Peetz gets into the main causes and implications of this issue. Our guest gives pointers for how to make less biased predictions for spending and makes a great point about how people with more aggressive saving goals often don’t spend less. We move onto the subject of long-term financial planning and motivation, and Professor Peetz weighs in on a few methods to get better at breaking down big goals into steps as a way of keeping motivation up. Another big discussion from today is how this idea of behaviour predictions fits into the context of healthy relationships. We talk about the connection between partner-satisfying decisions and happiness, and how partners should view each other's ability to keep promises. So for all this and more on how to get better at knowing your personality traits and the effects this can have on finances and relationships, tune in today.   Key Points From This Episode: Introducing Professor Johanna Peetz and her research on predictive errors. [0:00:48.2] If people are good at predicting how much money they're going to spend in the future. [0:03:05.2] The causes and implications of these biased spending estimates. [0:04:33.5] What people can do keep their spending in line with their goals. [0:06:53.5] The financial literacy gap between men and women. [0:13:37.5] Increasing motivation to reach long-term financial goals based on a future self. [0:17:05.7] Setting goals using intrinsic over extrinsic reasons. [0:21:40.5] How financial planners can help their clients find and reach their goals. [0:23:56.5] The relationship between pro-social behaviour and happiness. [0:24:51.5] How good people are at predicting relationship-enhancing behaviour. [0:28:27.0] Dealing with money-related relationship conflict amongst being bad at predicting behaviour and spending. [0:32:39.0] How unpacking expenses can help people make less biased spending predictions. [0:34:26.0] Different ways of responding to boredom in a relationship. [0:39:34.0] Taking the perspective of the other person to improve the forecast of relationship-enhancing behaviours. [0:43:10.0] What Professor Peetz is working on now that makes her most excited. [0:46:05.0] How knowing your personality traits can help you make better financial decisions. [0:48:20.0] Our guest’s definition of success. [0:49:09.0]
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Jun 3, 2021 • 60min

Evaluating Systematic Equity Strategies (EP.152)

Welcome back to your favourite Canadian podcast about sensible investing! Today we are focusing on evaluating equity strategies and wondering aloud whether you should be chasing these anomalies, thinking about the costs and turnover, and how these products are being implemented. These are just some of the important questions that can be asked on this subject, and we do our best to cover the most vital points in this episode. We start things off with our customary book review segment, taking a look at Katy Milkman's fascinating new title How to Change and the thesis it lays out on the continuum from now into the future. We then turn to a few interesting and pertinent news stories dealing with the CPP and clarifying the role of fund managers! After the preamble, we get into the main course of today's show and talk about some of the most prominent literature on the subject of equity strategies before laying out some criteria for useful data in this discussion. Our main point can be simplified as such: in the event of selecting systemic equity strategies with hopes of beating the market, there are many additional tradeoffs and costs that should be considered, many more than we even have time here to go through! To close out the show we take on a few questions for our Talking Sense segment and share some somewhat relieving news for our bad advice of the week!   Key Points From This Episode:   A retraction and re-review of the last episode's book of the week, Effortless! [0:04:26.4] This week's book review of the exciting new title from Katy Milkman, How to Change. [0:06:35.6] A round-up of recent news stories from the WSJ, The Globe and Mail. [0:10:32.2] The surprising results of the Canadian year-end SPIVA scorecard. [0:14:55.8] Investment topic of the week: evaluating equity strategies and the inspiration behind it. [0:17:24.5] The identification of systematic factors; Fama and French's original findings and newer research. [0:21:15.9] Conditions for useful data: persistent over time and pervasive across markets, strong economic rationale, and non-reliance on rising valuations. [0:23:44.3] The two forms of implementation costs that the data needs to survive: implicit and explicit. [0:32:40.1] The importance and impact of taking transaction costs into account for your portfolio. [0:35:53.0] The rough estimations that Ben put together in 2019 for a fund premium regression. [0:38:54.6] The 'what if I am wrong' check; the usefulness of maintaining a healthy level of skepticism. [0:42:22.5] Summarizing today's argument about additional costs and tradeoffs when selecting equity strategies. [0:46:01.7] Talking Sense segment; thoughts on money's purpose, and goals and sacrifices. [0:46:39.1] This week's bad advice! The amazing claims of TFSA maximizer schemes. [0:52:21.0]
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May 27, 2021 • 51min

Professor Brad Cornell: A Skeptic’s Look at the Cross Section of Expected Returns (EP.151)

There is an overarching investment philosophy that permeates most of what we do here at the Rational Reminder Podcast, and while some guests' positions might differ at times, it is rare that we have someone on the show whose approach is as strongly contrasted with ours, as Professor Brad Cornell. Professor Cornell's arguments are so well-founded and researched that they require a re-examination of positions that we feel have been a given for us for a long time. He is the author of about 150 referenced articles, four books, and has conducted hugely interesting work on the current state of value investing. His research with Aswath Damodaran, and insights into Tesla's valuation provide great food for thought, and we get into all of this on today's show! Our conversation also covers ways to go about picking a fund manager and a slightly different lens through which to view past performance. We feel truly grateful to have such a different, yet valid, perspective expressed so well here, and cannot wait to share this highly useful information with all of our listeners. Tune in to hear it all from Professor Brad Cornell!   Key Points From This Episode: The difference between a stock characteristic and a stock risk factor loading. [0:03:30.2] Some of the challenges in using characteristics to develop an investment strategy. [0:05:43.8] The problem of non-stationary frameworks as a starting point for investing. [0:07:33.4] How little we know about the cross-section of expected stock returns. [0:08:32.1] Concentrated, characteristic-focused portfolios versus something more diversified. [0:11:12.7] Unpacking the 'big market delusion' and the huge power of the narrative. [0:12:11.4] Looking at the example of the electric car market and what it teaches us. [0:16:18.4] Professor Cornell's thoughts on how to pick a fund manager. [0:21:23.0] Assessing the issues with mean reverting performance. [00:25:58] The most relevant ratio: price to a value estimat [00:30:35.2] Some thoughts from Professor Cornell on the rise in ESG investment. [00:32:22.5] Approaches to the expected equity risk premium for investors and planners. [00:39:45.0] Bringing in historical context to the conversation about predictability. [0:45:16.1] Professor Cornell's approach to calming down investors' reactivity to volatility. [0:47:56.5] A great definition of success from Professor Cornell! [00:49:57.2]
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May 20, 2021 • 60min

The Ultimate Inflation Hedge (EP.150)

Exploring the different investment approaches and commodities to hedge against inflation. Discussion on the performance of stocks, bonds, gold, international stocks, and value stocks. Highlighting the challenges and opportunities in managing inflation and effective investment strategies. Analyzing historical performance of value stocks and critiquing misleading investment advice on dividend stocks.
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May 13, 2021 • 1h 5min

Professor Robert Novy-Marx: The Other Side of Value (EP.149)

Today’s guest is Professor Robert Novy-Marx, the Lori and Alan Zekelman Distinguished Professor of Business Administration at Simon Business School of the University of Rochester. Professor Novy-Marx is best known for his articulation of the profitability factor and has also done a ton of great work on momentum and low volatility. We kick our conversation off with Professor Novy-Marx’s thoughts on how profitability should inform portfolios. From there we hear why Professor Novy-Marx has a problem with evaluating the performance of a multi-signal strategy the same way that we would a single-signal strategy. He then talks about the trade-off between concentrated versus diversified factor exposure for capturing premiums. Next, we discuss why there is no good empirical evidence that we can time premiums. Professor Novy-Marx makes a great argument for why the regressions people use to say that the value spread works to predict the value premium can't be taken seriously. Our conversation moves to focus on how our guest defines price momentum and what drives it, and the nuances of investing in momentum. We then hear his perspectives on the low volatility anomaly and how profitability helps to explain it. After that, we talk about whether investing in a low-vol fund is a way of accessing value and profitability, and why the five-factor model is a trustworthy factor model for regular investors. In the last part of our conversation, we talk to Professor Novy-Marx about his approach to critiquing other methods before ending off with his definition of success. Tune in for this excellent evergreen conversation.   Key Points From This Episode:   We introduce today’s guest, Professor Robert Novy-Marx, and his work. [0:00:17] The significance of the relationship between profitability and stock returns for asset pricing. [0:02:45] How the risk-based story around profitability is completely counterintuitive. [0:08:51] The best way to go about using profitability in portfolios. [0:12:34] When to target premiums individually and then combine them after the fact. [0:14:48] How profitability is different from quality. [0:16:26] Risks of building strategies that draw insight from different signals to identify a premium. [0:18:10] The trade-off between concentrated versus diversified factor exposure for capturing premiums. [0:23:33] Whether the recent decade’s run of underperformance impacts Professor Novy-Marx’s view of the value premium. [0:25:10] The vagueness of the equity premium and if it is possible to time premiums. [0:27:58] How Professor Novy-Marx defines momentum and what drives it. [0:32:32] Whether investors should be using momentum in portfolios. [0:38:47] Professor Novy-Marx’s perspectives on the low volatility anomaly. [0:44:19] Whether investing in a low-vol fund is a way of accessing value and profitability. [0:32:32] Why regular investors need factor models and how to choose one. [0:51:58] Whether it is reasonable to pursue factor premiums in a smaller market like Canada. [0:57:45] Professor Novy-Marx weighs in on writing papers that critique other methods. [0:58:44] Why Professor Novy-Marx consults for Dimensional Fund Advisors. [1:01:15] Insights Professor Novy-Marx has carried over from his years as a professional triathlete. [1:01:15] How Professor Novy-Marx defines success. [1:01:15]
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May 6, 2021 • 1h 2min

Investing in Happiness (EP.148)

Today we dive deep into the connection between happiness and money, looking at a host of theories and studies that have examined the important factors in this discussion. The main material referenced is the fascinating, The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt, and during the episode, we get to look at a great selection of the findings and claims in the book. To kick things off, we consider the broad ideas around how money can stimulate happiness, as well as its addictive aspects, before examining a few of the most prominent lenses used for measuring different kinds of happiness. Talking about the ideas of Hedonia and Eudaimonia, the influence of forecasting and the future, and the effects of different kinds of spending, we see the common threads as well as the distinctions between these models of measurement. Ultimately all of this material should hopefully enable us to live out a better life with this information in mind, and we spend some time reflecting on some of the key takeaways that seem to come to the surface in the happiness debate. To finish off, we field some listener questions on avoiding spending, and returns on investment, before diving into this week's bad advice featuring a video starring Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, and Mark Cuban!   Key Points From This Episode: A great book recommendation for getting to grips with branding and building relationships with consumers. [0:03:52.2] The interesting statement released by IIROC regarding conflicts of interest. [0:07:14.7] Barry Ritholtz's interview with Jack Brennan and their perspectives on index funds. [0:10:44.1] Books and studies on the subjects of happiness, finances, and addiction. [0:12:21.4] Different theories for the largest determining factors for happiness. [0:20:21.3] Hedonia and Eudaimonia; two different types of pleasure and their measurement. [0:24:47.6] Experienced happiness and experienced unhappiness; statistics from around the world. [0:32:04.1] Spending and happiness and the debate around the human ability to accurately forecast. [0:40:21.7] Designing a happy life based on all the research in the field. [0:44:48.8] Inverting the goal-setting process and working backward from what you don't want! [0:47:33.9] Love and work as the two most crucial ingredients for human happiness. [0:49:47.3] Avoiding the temptation of spending when aiming to save money. [0:51:15.6] Examples of investments that have paid off for Cameron and Benjamin. [0:52:31.1] Bad advice of the week; Buffett, Cuban, and Munger on diversification. [0:54:03.7]
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Apr 29, 2021 • 1h 20min

Paul Merriman: We are Talking Millions (EP.147)

It takes only a handful of smart choices to convert regular savings into a secure future. Today we welcome famed financial educator Paul Merriman onto the show to discuss how the right habits and investing approach can add millions to your retirement nest egg. After chatting about his personal and professional background, we dive into Paul’s investing philosophy and how it’s been influenced by the work of Eugene Fama. A significant theme in this episode, we then talk about why Vanguard’s portfolio allocation ensures that clients have the smoothest possible emotional relationship with their investments. This leads to a discussion on the benefits of simple versus complex funds and how simple funds fit with the preferences of many do-it-yourself investors. Linked to this, Paul explains why it’s emotion and not strategy that gets in the way of successful investing before exploring the challenges of sticking to portfolios that are heavily weighted in small-cap value stocks. Reflecting on his career as an advisor, we ask Paul about his difficulties in working with clients as well as the role of financial advisors. Later, Paul unpacks some of the top habits and beliefs that lead to investing success; a key focus of his new book, We’re Talking Millions. We wrap up our conversation by touching on target date glide paths, how Paul’s foundation educates investors, and the relationship between money and a life well-lived. With such an illustrious career in financial education, tune in to benefit from Paul’s investing advice.   Key Points From This Episode: We introduce today’s episode with financial educator Paul Merriman. [0:00:17] Paul shares details about his personal and professional history. [0:03:16] How Eugene Fama’s work impacted the way that Paul built his firm. [0:06:55] What PWL Advisors went through to access Dimensional’s products. [0:08:21] Insights into the fateful chat that Paul had with Jack Bogle in 2017. [0:09:08] How Paul helps his clients balance fee frugality with expected returns. [0:13:29] Exploring the trade-offs between simple and complex funds. [0:16:49] Paul compares his former buy-and-hold strategy with his simpler new approach. [0:19:06] The costs of do-it-yourself investors having an overly-complicated portfolio. [0:22:46] The rationale underpinning the small-cap value strategy. [0:27:20] Why it’s so difficult to only invest in small-cap value stocks. [0:25:36] What Paul would say to clients who want to ditch their small-cap value stocks. [0:37:32] Paul reflects on challenges when communicating with investors. [0:40:39] We ask Paul about the value of financial advice and financial advisors. [0:46:32] Discover the habits that every investor should follow. [0:51:29] What Paul is trying to achieve with the Merriman Education Foundation. [0:58:21] Pros and cons to target date glide path funds. [01:02:00] We chat about Paul's radio show from the previous decade. [0:50:35] Hear Paul’s top lessons on the relationship between money and a life well-lived. [01:08:51] How Paul defines success. [01:16:29]
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Apr 22, 2021 • 60min

Do Expected Stock Returns Wear a CAPE? (EP.146)

As many of you already know, we have been working hard to figure out the best way to model expected stock returns for financial planning and asset allocation. It has a lot of history in financial literature, which is to be expected, given the importance of the figure. In today’s episode, we’re looking all the way back to 1985, when Rajnish Mehra and Edward C.Prescott called the equity premium a puzzle, through to the present day, when the equity risk premium has only gotten larger. We dive into some of the theories for resolving the equity premium puzzle, explain why US stock market data isn’t the best way to estimate future premiums, thanks to its survivorship bias, and some of the general issues with interpreting past returns. Benjamin also gets into predictability, which is not as obvious as it seems, and highlights some of the information from the simulation he performed, and the big breakthroughs from running the numbers. All this and more in today’s episode on expected stock returns, so make sure to tune in today!   Key Points From This Episode: Kicking off with the fallout from the collapse of Archegos Capital, the death of Bernie Madoff, and the story of the $100 million New Jersey deli. [0:06:35] Reflecting on the recent article, ‘Could Index Funds be ‘Worse Than Marxism’?’. [0:11:05] On to today’s topic: do expected stock returns wear a cape? [0:13:05] Theories for resolving the equity premium puzzle; either the model is wrong or the historical premium was higher than it will be in the future. [0:14:14] Hear John H. Cochrane’s theory from his 1997 paper, ‘Where is the Market Going?’ [0:14:42] Why we can’t use historic US stock market data to approximate future premiums. [0:14:57] Other issues with looking to past returns, like no proof that the equity premium was stationary. [0:15:23] Why time periods characterized by decreasing risk should effectively see decreased discount rates too. [0:16:04] Dimson, Marsh, and Staunton (DMS) on expected stock returns using out of sample data. [0:16:40] Hear some of the equity risk premium stats from their world index versus the US. [0:19:38] How annual returns have been relatively unaffected by global financial crises. [0:21:15] From looking back, to what to expect going forward: the issues with interpreting past returns. [0:22:10] Why, according to DMS, expected returns equal the growth rate in dividends plus the dividend yield. [0:25:26] Hear the actual figures, which reflect the minor contribution of multiple expansion. [0:26:49] What a company is worth if it doesn’t distribute capital to shareholders. [0:29:03] Find out why the expected geometric equity risk premium works out to 3.5 percent. [0:30:13] While the DMS approach is reasonable, it still doesn’t account for whether expected returns are constant through time or if they vary. [0:32:21] Predictable stock returns dictate that changing risk aversion over time measurably affects risk premiums after good and bad events. [0:34:45] Diving into the vast literature on return predictability, including a paper by Goyal and Welch. [0:35:12] Why predictability is not as obvious as it seems, thanks to our sample data. [0:36:15] What we can learn from ‘Long Horizon Predictability’ by Boudoukh, Israel, and Richardson. [0:39:30] R-squared and market timing decisions; why it would need to be higher than it was historically. [0:40:32] Hear about the world index analysis Benjamin performed and what it proves about risk premiums over 30 and 60 year periods. [0:42:31] Bootstrap simulations and why they are criticized; because they ignore mean relationship, you get a much wider distribution of outcomes. [0:44:50] Big breakthroughs from running through these numbers, like noting the upward bias and tighter distribution in long-run historical data. [0:50:34] How to apply this on your own, using the 3.5 percent risk premium in the long run. [0:52:23] Some of the other interesting things we noted during these simulations. [0:53:10] We pull two cards: choosing between a holiday and a pet, and borrowing money with interest. [0:53:56] Bad advice of the week: a free lunch-esque article on investing in private credit. [0:55:53]
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Apr 15, 2021 • 55min

Jennifer Risher: Talking About Money (EP.145)

From YouTube channels to get-rich playbooks, whole industries are devoted to the subject of building wealth. But few books present a clear and honest view of what it’s like to have a lot of money. Today we welcome author Jennifer Risher onto the show to share her insights on living with wealth. Early in the episode, we explore how Jennifer and her husband ‘hit the lottery twice’ by being given stock options for both Microsoft and Amazon before they went public. Jennifer then shares details about the key premise of her book: people with wealth never talk about their money. Informed by her experience of having sudden wealth, we discuss why gaining wealth doesn’t significantly change people despite it leading to feelings of isolation. After talking about how wealthy people rarely feel that they have enough, we unpack the many benefits that come from talking about your wealth. As Jennifer explains, using examples from her life, communicating your feelings about money is a solution to many relationship issues that arise from having wealth. Linked to this, we dive into how you can raise balanced children whose outlooks aren’t spoiled by affluence. Later, we touch on the role of giving, Jennifer's top advice for newly wealthy people, and how Jennifer views work now that it’s optional for her. We wrap up our conversation by hearing about how the wealthy make a positive impact on society. In this episode, we dispel many myths about being rich. Tune in for more on why we need to be talking about wealth.   Key Points From This Episode: Details about author Jennifer Risher, today’s guest. [0:00:17] Jennifer shares why she wrote her book and the problems that it addresses. [0:02:43] Exploring the question: how much does wealth change you? [0:06:55] What wealth has given to Jennifer and what it hasn’t. [0:09:10] Jennifer describes the feelings that came with suddenly becoming wealthy. [0:10:14] The process informing Jennifer’s decision that she had ‘enough.’ [0:13:41] Hear Jennifer’s advice for couples who have different definitions of ‘enough.’ [0:16:49] How few wealthy people don’t feel that they have sufficient wealth. [0:19:03] The important role that financial advisors play aligning wealth with people’s values. [0:20:13] How Jennifer’s book is opening up the conversation on wealth. [0:23:09] Challenges around raising children in a state of affluence. [0:25:36] Why modelling virtuous behaviour is key in raising balanced children. [0:28:40] What Jennifer learned from speaking to other wealthy couples. [0:30:23] How having wealth can impact your relationships. [0:34:06] Overcoming the taboo of talking about money. [0:38:52] Ways to view work when working is optional for you. [0:42:28] Jennifer unpacks her biggest lessons on giving. [0:44:00] Jennifer shares her advice for newly wealthy people. [0:50:35] What the wealthy can do to improve society. [0:51:59] Hear how Jennifer defines success for herself. [0:53:34]
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Apr 8, 2021 • 60min

“Buying the Dip” (EP.144)

Today’s episode doesn’t have an external guest, but Benjamin and Cameron provide fascinating information on a vast range of topics. First, the discussion centers around the book that Cameron is currently reading and what it is teaching him about social networks, the ego-driven world of social media, and the benefits of anonymity online. The hosts share some of the findings from a very insightful discussion which took place on their anonymous community board platform around people’s thoughts on the positive and negative impacts of work. Happiness and the factors that cause it are a big theme in today’s show, as is the practice of ‘buying the dip.’ If you aren’t familiar with this term, you should have a decent understanding of what it is and why you shouldn’t do it by the time you finish listening. The hosts also discuss the incident that has been called “the largest financial meltdown since 2008,” who the RR Model Portfolios are aimed at, and some of the ways people react to crises (in terms of their investments.) Tune in for a whirlwind education on some very important topics!   Key Points From This Episode: Benjamin and Cameron share statistics which show how the podcast is growing. [0:02:53] How the hosts find the guests that they interview on the podcast. [0:03:10] Staggering one year stock performance numbers. [0:04:22] Why Cameron is reading The Hidden Psychology of Social Networks, and what he is learning from it. [0:06:56] Community boards and the arguments for and against anonymous online communities. [0:08:02] The “epic meltdown” which makes up the news story for today’s episode. [0:10:17] Where the value of the Rational Reminder Model Portfolios lies, who will benefit from them, and who probably won’t. [0:13:53] Tools which make implementation easy. [0:21:00] Data on individuals participating in 401(k) plans and a discussion around how humans deal with crises. [0:22:12] The conversation around connection, control, competence, context that was sparked by the question of whether the goal of retiring is a good one to have. [0:26:43] Jonathan Haidt’s Happiness Hypothesis; the importance of love and work. [0:29:34] People don’t tend to prioritize time over money to a point where it is detrimental. [0:32:53] What it means to ‘Buy the Dip,’ the reasons that people do it and the problems with engaging in this practice. [0:33:15] The paper that Benjamin has produced on ‘buying the dip’ which will be out by the time you listen to this episode. [0:40:34] Why the ‘buying the dip’ strategy has been particularly costly for Americans, and the contrast between the cases Benjamin looked at in the USA, Australia, Canada and Japan. [0:45:45] What people don’t realize about leverage and how this impacts their decision to ‘buy the dip.’ [0:52:00] The cards created by the University of Chicago Financial Education Initiative. [0:53:53] Cameron asks Benjamin a question from one of the cards; coincidentally it is about happiness. [0:55:00] The qualities that Cameron and Benjamin believe are most important in someone who is starting a business. [0:57:05]

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