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Design Systems Podcast

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Jan 9, 2023 • 31min

57. Francesco Cutolo from Klarna: Start from scratch, or build on existing design systems, which is more viable?

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Francesco and Chris discuss the importance of foundational concepts like code, that help secure buy-in and  prove value within an organization. Thus, supporting Francesco's current thoughts that building on existing design systems proves to be more viable for his work at Klarna.View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsFrancesco Cutolo is a Design Manager (currently leading the design system) at Klarna. Born in Pompeii,  he moved to Sweden after spending 10+ years building digital products for desktop and mobile systems across Europe. HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Dec 20, 2022 • 41min

56. Smith Schwartz, Product Design Manager & Tyce Clee, Engineering Manager at Spotify discuss their design system, Encore

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Tyce and Smith discuss with Chris the concept of local systems and the focus on building areas within the business that extend past basics and build on core components that create variance. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsTyce Clee is an Engineering Manager working on Encore, the design system for Spotify. They’re a big fan of arcade games, travel, and emo karaoke nights.Smith Schwartz is a Design Manager working on Ads Design System, an Encore local system for Spotify. Before tech, she designed and implemented IRL experiences for museums like The Art Institute of Chicago and Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Dec 7, 2022 • 42min

55. Todd Wilkens from Remote: The experience is the product

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Todd and Chris discuss shipping experiences, the experience being the product, and the math behind building a well-oiled design system. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestTodd is the Chief Product Officer of Remote where he leads all things Product, including the Product Management and Design teams. Todd has led Product, Design, and P&L at several market-leading companies including Atlassian, Automattic, Auctane, and IBM. He is passionate about systematic approaches to increase the speed and quality of product development. He speaks and writes about product management, design, and remote work regularly. He has 6 kids, too many volunteering/service projects, and an obsession with Texas bbq and spicy Indian curries.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Nov 22, 2022 • 32min

54. Nick Hahn founder of Creative Liberation: Design systems are going to reduce the need for early career designers by 75%

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Nick and Chris discuss how 75% of production design jobs are going to go away, and what will replace this space. Ultimately, how do designers become proactive vs. reactive in an ever changing environment?View the transcript of this episode here.GuestNick Hahn, is the founder of Creative Liberation, a coaching and design consultancy. He has spent 20 years riding the rise of the Design industry through agencies and inhouse at IBM, InVision, and Meta. Nick now specializes in the human side of Design Systems – governance, contribution, and adoption models, all while guiding the deep cultural changes needed to ensure long term success of design systems. You can find him on LinkedIn and at creativelib.us. HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Nov 15, 2022 • 35min

53. Dana Lawson from Netlify: Bridging the gap between engineers and designers

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Dana Lawson and Chris discuss the future of design systems as it relates to the relationship between engineering leaders and design counterparts. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestDana Lawson is Senior Vice President of Engineering at Netlify overseeing Engineering and Support. Previously she has led and grown teams at GitHub, Heptio, InVision, and New Relic. She has over 20+ years of experience and has led many different teams and has worn many hats to compliment a product’s lifecycle. With a true passion for people, she brings this mix of technology and fun to her leadership style.  HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Oct 27, 2022 • 24min

52. Kathryn Gonzalez from DoorDash: Localize your design system

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Kathryn Gonzalez and Chris discuss the evolution of design systems from centralized to localized and how DoorDash’s design system team is evolving as their system matures. Guest:Kathryn Gonzalez is the head of design infrastructure at DoorDash, where she leads design systems design, design systems engineering, accessibility, and prototyping. She was the first designer and front-end engineer at DoorDash and has been living at the intersection of design and engineering for her entire career. She loves startups, sports, and fashion and is a proud queer woman of color from the South.Host:Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.View the transcript of this episode here.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Sep 21, 2022 • 34min

51. Evan Lovely, Chris Bloom, Jake Love, and Brittany Smart from Knapsack: Hot Takes on the State of Design Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Evan Lovely (Head of Product & Engineering), Chris Bloom (Principal Front-End Engineer), Jake Love (Senior Solutions Engineer), and Brittany Smart (Solutions Engineer) join Chris to discuss the state of design systems today. Listen as the Knapsack team shares hot takes on everything from the lesser known elements of successful design systems to the role vulnerability should play in your system. Host:Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.View the transcript for this episode here. Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Sep 6, 2022 • 37min

50. Stephen Gates: What makes a good design leader?

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Stephen Gates and Chris discuss the realities of design system leadership, unconventional sources of inspiration, and the impact of design on society. Guest: With over 20 years of experience, Stephen is a global design leader who has built world-class teams at organizations that integrate research and data with human-centered design methods to drive business impact. He’s helped companies like Starwood Hotels, Citi, InVision, and WW scale their design practice and grow successful teams. Stephen is also the host of the award-winning podcast, The Crazy One, which features in-depth explorations of issues that matter to creatives, including leadership, creativity, and career development and innovation. You can find Stephen through his website, on Twitter or Instagram as @sdgates and on LinkedIn.Host: Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.View the transcript for this episode here. Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.
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Aug 1, 2022 • 37min

49. Vojtech Miksu from Uber: Next-gen tooling for developers

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.Vojtech Miksu (Software Engineer at Uber) and Evan Lovely (Chief Architect at Knapsack) join Chris to discuss the gap between a frontend developer’s code base and what actually gets shipped, the next-gen tool (Ladle) Vojtech created to address this, and ultimately helping developers get closer to what end users experience.View the transcript of this episode here.
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Jun 6, 2022 • 41min

48. Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi from Capital One: Navigating design system convergence, adoption, and contribution simultaneously

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi join Chris to discuss transitioning multiple design systems into one, shifting system consumers’ mindset from working with a local system to working with a global system, and using play to drive excitement and adoption of a design system.Guest: Meghan Rosatelli is the Director of Design for Capital One’s enterprise design system. She also teaches courses in digital arts at the University of Richmond. You can find Meghan on LinkedIn. Guest: Saejin is currently the Experience Lead for Capital One's design system. His previous life at Capital One was leading the Digital Payments and Commerce design team. You can find Saejin on LinkedIn, or via his years-long dormant Twitter account @saejinchoi.Host: Chris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsor: Knapsack unites your design, code, and content in a central source of truth for your entire product team. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.View the transcript of this episode here.

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