Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Kaelig, Darren, and Chris talk tokens and code: “Using a whole different type of brain.” View the transcript of this episode here. Want to hear more? Register for Knapsack’s upcoming talking tokens webinar here. GuestsKaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, Principal Software Engineer at NetlifyFounder of the Design Tokens W3C Community Group, providing open standards for products and design tools to share design system foundations at scale.Darren Simons, Senior Product Designer, Design Systems at MulesoftDigital Product Designer who is able to untangle complicated requirements, build design systems from the ground up, and incorporate them into the design workflow. I bring design and technology together to craft elegant user interfaces with an emphasis on the end-user experience.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Amber, Taylor, and Chris talk tokens; the pros and cons.View the transcript of this episode here.GuestsAmber Stickel, Principal Design Technologist at IntuitFront-end designer and developer with a passion for creating modular, reusable, and flexible interfaces and systems. With multidisciplinary knowledge and tools in hand, I’m hoping to improve the web one experience at a time.Taylor Cashdan, Design Systems Lead at Mayo ClinicMultidisciplinary creative and community builder that's passionate about people, design, and all the intersections in between. I bring to the table a burning desire to collaborate with teams tasked with creating exceptional work for people who give a shit.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Morgane and Chris discuss the idea that many design systems pitch themselves as a technical asset. However, design systems can extend past this notion to offer business value,  patterns, and ROI.View the transcript of this episode here.GuestMorgane Peng is a Managing Director and Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking where she builds products for start-ups, corporates and financial institutions. Outside of work, she is a mentor, conference speaker and also contributes to an indie video game crowdfunded on Kickstarter. You can find Morgane on Twitter as @morganepeng and on Medium.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Evan and Chris discuss source of truth and how it is linked most importantly to overall user experience opposed to just design or code. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestEvan Lovely is the co-founder and Head of Product & Engineering at Knapsack. Evan was previously the CTO at Basalt Inc and a software architect at Phase2. He has a passion for developing well-designed, scalable software solutions and extensive experience in leading technical teams and projects. Evan is certified as a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer and as a CompTIA A+ Certified Computer Technician.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Jennie and Chris discuss following the path of least resistance when building design systems. It must feel natural and easier for the people using the system, so much so, it doesn’t make sense to continue with old habits. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestJennie Yip is a hybrid design engineer with a heart for elegant user interfaces, simple user experiences, and beautifully crafted code. Loves building scalable design systems while helping designers and engineers work better together.  She’s currently Principal Design Architect at Atlassian, reimagining Atlassian Design System. You can find Jennie musing about design systems or her bebe component on Twitter @jenniesyip.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Avery Oldt and Chris discuss the importance of scaling ideas, systematic thinking, and cross-team integration for product delight and success. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestAvery Oldt is Head of Design & Research at Amazon for Amazon Fashion. His past work includes leading design, product, and engineering teams at MTV, Restoration Hardware, Louis Vuitton, Booking.com, and BNP Paribas. Over the past 25 years and across various industries, he's found his sweet spot at the intersection of design and technology, creating space for great products to emerge from diverse teams and positive culture.You can find Avery on LinkedIn or walking in the redwoods of Marin County, California. HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Jack McCloy and Chris discuss the purpose of a design system and its ability to iterate faster, build better, more accessible, consistent products. Not only saving money but achieving outcomes you wouldn’t practically be able to do without a systems approach. View the transcript of this episode here.GuestJack McCloy is an Engineering Manager at Amplitude, where he leads the frontend infrastructure / design system team. He and his team develop architectural patterns, tooling, and systems that help engineers build and iterate more rapidly and designers scale their work. Jack also angel invests in companies working on dev/design tools, data tools, infrastructure, and b2b SasS products. You can follow / connect with him on Twitter or LinkedIn.  HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Adekunle and Chris cover a number of topics spanning from the importance of flexibility, connection, communication, collaboration and designing systems to ultimately solve problems for its users. View the transcript of this episode, here.GuestAdekunle Oduye (Add-eh-koon-lay Oh-due-yay) is currently building design systems at Plaid. Outside of work, he is a coach/mentor, conference speaker and co-host of the Code and Pixels podcast. You can learn more about him on his website (https://www.adekunleoduye.com), linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adekunleoduye), or twitter (https://twitter.com/adekunleoduye).HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Send us feedback or episode suggestions.Jen, Donnie and Chris discuss how design systems reflect the people a part of it, who use it and who maintain it; and the importance of collaboration, that systems are built for and with people. View the transcript of this episode, here. GuestJen is a product designer and educator from NYC. She’s currently a Senior Experience Designer at Signet Jewelers, exploring ways to expand and improve their Amor Design System. You can find Jen on LinkedIn and jennifer.damato.design.Donnie is a design systems architect, adjunct faculty of UX curriculum, and armchair philosopher from New York. Author of Gridless Design. You can find Donnie on LinkedIn and donnie.damato.design.HostChris Strahl is co-founder and CEO of Knapsack, host of @TheDSPod, DnD DM, and occasional river guide. You can find Chris on Twitter as @chrisstrahl and on LinkedIn.Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud.

Michael Jeter, the Creative Director at Zapier, leads a talented team focused on design consistency and user experience. He delves into the significance of systems thinking in addressing design challenges. The discussion covers the evolving relationship between design systems and branding, especially during turbulent times. Jeter shares insights on the delicate balance between creativity and structure. He also explores the human element in an increasingly algorithm-driven internet and the transformative impact of no-code tools on creative expression.