
How To Succeed In Product Management | Jeffrey Shulman, Red Russak & Soumeya Benghanem
Learn from some of the best product managers in the world through conversations hosted by The Product Management Center at the University of Washington. In each episode, Jeff Shulman, Red Russak, and Soumeya Benghanem dive into the tools, frameworks, and thought processes that will help drive success in product management.
Latest episodes

Mar 2, 2022 • 59min
Best of 2021 - Making Inclusive Product Design Real
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board member Soumeya Benghanem welcome Mandy Bhullar (Lululemon) and Ada Lopez (Lenovo) to talk about bringing an inclusive lens on product design. When designing a product, inclusivity should be taken into consideration at the very beginning - when looking at data and conducting research, when planning and structuring, and when finding a diverse team to work on the product.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:41 Diversifying inclusive product design
11:02 What inclusive product design?
16:09 The curiosity and investigating the ways in which diverse users might experience technologies differently
18:43 Inclusive thinking is everyone’s responsibility
19:51 There’s always opportunities to add inclusion
21:21 A lot of the technological advances were designed with inclusion
22:41 Think who is not benefiting from a product and build for them
28:00 Data research tools: survey, screener, and asking the right questions
31:21 Having a diverse team helps in designing inclusively
35:10 Adaptive gaming controllers are fun inclusive designs
39:20 Build awareness around who to include or exclude
45:18 Collect different inclusive information in repository for future reference
47:35 Constantly search within the context of your product
50:35 “Develop products with inclusive design and accessibility from the beginning.” - Ada Lopez
51:07 “Be intentional about making inclusive decisions.” - Mandy Bhullar
54:07 “Inclusion is a different way of going about product design.” - Soumeya Benghanem

Feb 23, 2022 • 57min
37: Top PMs Share Lessons Learned from the Past Year
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Chris Chestnutt (Nike), Malaika Paquiot (Avalanche Insights), Raul Salcedo (Fluent Inc.), Andrew Nguyen (Bark), Pooja Tripathi (Salesforce), Gordon Ruby (Technical Safety BC), and Sandy Huang (Amazon) to talk about the lessons learned in the past year as they continue to give back to the community and share their knowledge and expertise to anyone and everyone who needs them.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
02:58 What have you learned this past year as PM?
07:23 Build relationships is not something we can rush
10:56 Don’t let naysayers throw you off track
15:57 What can you do to help the community grow?
23:57 Connect and get involved in the community
30:33 Flexibility as an employee, manager, or boss
35:22 Practice time boxing
42:00 Always ask a clarifying question
44:18 Concepts of truth and assumption are irrelevant at any given moment
48:42 What are you most proud of?

Feb 16, 2022 • 1h 1min
36: The Best Practices for Time Management
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Mark Cramer, Abhishek Bhardwaj (PayPal), Sangeeta Kulkarni (Compass) to discuss time management. Throughout a PM’s work journey, time is essential and one of the most valuable assets that is difficult to manipulate or control. But with the right tools and frameworks paired with experience and expertise in the field, time can be managed and allocated effectively.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:33 Let’s talk about time management
09:21 New PMs often face time management challenges
17:48 Tools and frameworks that help manage time
32:22 How do you find an MVP?
34:42 Finding balance between what needs to be solved and how to solve it
40:03 Use frameworks as loose suggestions to accomplish something
44:09 What happened to our commute time?
46:50 Always do the most difficult task first
50:56 Taking breaks in between meetings
56:03 Trick your brain that there’s a big reward

Feb 9, 2022 • 55min
35: The Tactics of Effective Roadmapping
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Arvind Dutta (Microsoft) to talk about roadmaps and prioritization. A roadmap isn’t simply a to-do list that anyone can change or check off. It is a consolidated plan and execution that helps the product team prioritize and progress through the product development more organized and productive.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
03:05 Why roadmapping and prioritization are important
06:23 Who owns the roadmap?
09:11 Avoid turning the roadmap into a to-do list
16:39 Know the audience the roadmap is aimed at
24:09 Question-based approach roadmap
33:14 The product team should make the roadmap work for them
39:43 Other tools effective in implementing a roadmap
42:41 Providing updates to the upper management
48:39 Where the real value lies
51:02 The ability to prioritize and drive clarity through roadmap

Feb 2, 2022 • 1h 1min
34: Why Do PMs Need to Find Their Leadership Voice?
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Ronke Majekodunmi (PayPal) to talk about finding your leadership voice. When you have a voice powerful enough to be a catalyst of change, then you are on your way to becoming an effective leader. Your leadership voice, when used correctly, will greatly benefit your organization and the people you work with.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:52 Why do you need a leadership voice?
08:53 You use your leadership voice to make a difference
16:35 How do you find your leadership ears?
21:38 Four things to focus on when talking about communication
28:14 It’s easier for engineers to transition into a PM role
31:39 Give as much time as possible in mentoring new PMs
34:51 How to settle in a new role/organization
38:18 Always try to build something
46:02 Follow the social accounts of the top people in the organizations
50:53 Get exposed and reach out to the right hiring people
53:43 Don’t let fear hold you back
56:20 Don’t hesitate to use your leadership voice

Jan 26, 2022 • 53min
33: Frameworks That Work When Product Managers Hire Other PMs
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Clarissa Silva (C Silva Solutions LLC), Michele Heyward (PositiveHire), and Jedidiah Jonathan (Amazon) to talk about hiring product managers. The first thing most hiring managers do during the hiring process is to look for skills that match the job description and what the applicant can bring into the company. But, it’s also important to ensure that diversity and inclusion is always taken into consideration.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:38 When it’s time to hire, train, and delegate to other PMs
02:57 Myth: All hiring processes are the same
07:45 The landscape of what it looks like for executive recruiting
12:37 What’s the best approach to gaining the best talents?
16:45 Offer expertise to bigger organizations to build partnerships
23:48 Dos and Don’ts for a PM hiring another PM
29:05 Always keep communication clear
31:20 Understand the minimum skills required for the job
34:45 A diverse interview panel is important
37:43 Flexibility between structured interview and human connection during interviews
39:42 Universalizing the outcomes of the methodology in the interview
43:25 Start asking good PMs and map those skills down
47:44 Inclusivity in companies require more creative approach

Jan 19, 2022 • 1h 2min
32: Data Gathering and Verification with AB Testing
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board member Soumeya Benghanem welcome Ron Berman (Marketing Professor at Wharton) to talk about experimentation. Since data is one of the most valuable components to all product development, is it right to say that AB testing is the ultimate go-to experiment method? Or will it depend on the availability of samples and the number of experiments your team is willing to test? Tune in to find out!
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
05:06 Is AB Testing the best experimentation process?
08:48 Run the test, design two versions, check the conversion rate
12:38 If you change something very small, the effect is not very large
22:34 We need to think of good things to experiment with
30:34 When the result is indisputable and when it becomes inconclusive
34:50 Running multiple versions of an experiment
42:02 Conducting a test with very small samples
46:21 AB test is just one method of quantitative experimentation
56:34 Let data drive in making critical decisions

Jan 12, 2022 • 56min
31: Why Customer Centric Vision is Essential in Product Management
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Sagar Kulkarni (Microsoft) to talk about creating a customer centric vision within any organization. Whether there is misalignment in vision between teams within the same organization or working in opposing workflows, what matters the most is that the product vision aligns with the customer needs.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:29 Creating a customer centric vision
06:59 What does vision stand for in product management?
11:43 The core of user-centered visions
18:02 Customer feedback is a big indicator of your success
22:54 Focus on vision around strategic prioritization
32:07 The mindset you should have to meet customer requirements
41:50 Bridging through misaligned vision but completely aligned with customer needs
49:15 Is it possible to keep the same domain and break into product management?
50:26 Customer centricity is sometimes taken for granted

Jan 5, 2022 • 59min
30: Do Product Managers Need an MBA?
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board member Red Russak welcome Kelcey Joyce (Bright Health) to talk about PMs having an MBA. Is it a necessary credential for all aspiring and existing PMs? Will it matter if you have one? Listen in to find out if pursuing advanced education is a must!
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
00:57 Do I need an MBA?
08:26 People with technical background may not need an MBA
10:01 How does having an MBA help?
12:39 Diversity for people pursuing an MBA
15:05 Juggling priorities between work and pursuing advanced education
19:27 Understand what other players are within your industry
25:29 Moving things through in a heavily regulated industry
31:00 What is the role of a product manager?
36:51 Help customers find the products that will solve their problems
41:54 It’s about presenting the product and giving value to it
47:23 Find a good resume matching tool
51:39 An MBA can help accelerate your career shift, but not a requirement
53:02 It depends on your end goal

Dec 29, 2021 • 1h 7min
Best of 2021 - Transferrable Skills and Mastering Product Execution
In this episode of the How to Succeed in Product Management Podcast, marketing professor Jeff Shulman and The Product Management Center advisory board members Red Russak and Soumeya Benghanem welcome Diego Granados (Microsoft), Welly Lee (Microsoft), and Shyvee Shi (LinkedIn) to talk about the value of transferable skills and experiences. It’s never about building from scratch, it’s all about the journey that helps build your skills as a PM and the experiences you can bring with you wherever you go and whenever you work on a new product.
Support for How to Succeed in Product Management is brought to you by Apptentive, which enables product managers to measure shifts in customer emotion and gather actionable feedback across the mobile customer journey. To learn more, go to Apptentive.com/UW.
What to Listen For:
00:00 Intro
01:35 Some PMs aren’t aware of the multitude of experiences and skills necessary in other roles
13:15 The most valuable transferable experiences or job roles
19:27 Create a compelling argument why an undervalued area can work
23:52 What aspiring PMs should have: transferable skills & complete understanding of product management
27:21 Product management is about managing risks
32:41 The PM role is a practice of balancing tension
35:16 You cannot be a good product manager if you don't like people
44:51 Resources to look into to learn product management
48:49 Start by doing the baseline, understand the gaps, then create a plan
52:49 At the beginning, you have to be good at execution
57:51 PMs a lot of time wear multiple hats
58:47 Important career pivoters
01:00:34 No single recipe is going to work for everyone
01:02:49 It’s the journey to learn new things
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