
THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
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Mar 2, 2023 • 32min
THE CALL ROOM With Ben Flanagan | Episode 4: The TEN Preview
The official The TEN preview with Ben Flanagan. In episode four of The Call Room With Ben Flanagan, Ben dives deep into many subjects leading into this Saturday's race. We discuss presence, recent training, coming back from a setback, confidence, and his thoughts ahead of Saturday. Needless to say, this is a must-listen episode!
About THE CALL ROOM: Have you ever wondered what it looks like to train as a professional distance runner? What the day-to-day life looks like? How to handle setbacks, failure, adversity, and doubts? How to set goals, train for them, and execute them on race day? As outsiders, we see remarkable athletes accomplish remarkable things every year. We don't see the behind-the-scenes of what went into that remarkable performance. We don't see or understand the hours of hard work, struggle, doubt, etc. The Running Effect is here to bring you an inside look at all these things with the man, the myth, the legend, Ben Flanagan.
Ben Flanagan has cemented himself as one of the best Canadian runners of all time in his short four years of being a professional runner. He is the Canadian half-marathon record holder with a time of 61:00 and has won the prestigious Falmouth Road Race three years in a row (gaining the name "The King of Falmouth" in the process). In addition, he won the 2018 NCAA 10k title while competing for the University of Michigan. Ben is currently sponsored by On Running and is a member of VNTC based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Over the next two months, Ben and I will dive deep into his indoor campaign leading into The Ten, presented by Sound Running. We will go into his training, racing, mindset, and answer your questions along the way!
Enjoy the podcast? Please consider subscribing following us on Spotify & Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
Watch Ben's Race: https://www.soundrunning.run/ten
-Ben's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_flanagan/?hl=en
-Ben's Strava: https://www.strava.com/pros/ben-flanagan-41161380
-VNTC Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@verynicetrackclub5601/featured
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Intro Background Music: https://mandelbro.bandcamp.com/album/oh-margarita

Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 3min
Olympian & American Record Holder Elise Cranny Shares Her Wisdom On Comparison, Reflection, Presence, & The Importance Of Why
Back on the podcast is the one and only Elise Cranny!
Elise is an Olympian, and American Record Holder, but to me, she is a friend, mentor, and inspiration. The last time Elise was on the podcast was episode 50, so I thought, who better to have on 100ish episodes later than her. For those who aren't familiar, Elise runs for Nike's Bowerman Track Club and has slowly cemented herself as one of the greatest US Female Distance Runners of all time. Just within the past two years, Elise has won back-to-back US Championships in the 5k, made the Tokyo Olympics & Eugene World Championships, and set an American Record in the indoor 5k.
In this conversation, Elise and I talk about comparison, reflection, being where your feet are, why finding your Why is crucial, if she'll write a book one day, and much more! Any conversation I have with Elise is insightful, and I always walk away inspired. Quite frankly, this didn't feel like a podcast; more like a normal phone call that just happened to be recorded and put out to the public. I'm incredibly confident you'll find value from today's podcast and walk away enlightened and impacted.
Anytime I have Elise on the podcast, she drops many nuggets of wisdom, and today is no exception. So get your pen, paper, and AirPods, and enjoy my conversation with Elise.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-CLEAN ENERGY!: https://cleansmoothie.com
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Elise's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elise.cranny/
-Elise's BTC Profile: https://www.bowermantc.com/elise-cranny-bio

Feb 26, 2023 • 55min
Professional Decathlete Jack Flood On Discipline, Confidence, & Chasing After The Best Version Of Yourself
Today on the podcast, I speak with the one and only Jack Flood.
Jack is a professional decathlete who has represented Team USA before. Prior to his years as a professional, Jack won both NCAA Division III heptathlon (indoors) and decathlon (outdoors) titles during his senior track and field season in 2017. Jack shares his journey through social media and has reached millions through his inspirational content. Jack is such a legend that Chipotle named a bowl after him.
This conversation was fantastic. Jack is full of ebullience and brought incredible wisdom to the podcast. In this conversation, Jack and I discuss discipline, training for many hours a day, taking risks, developing confidence when no one believes in you, his journey from DIII to professional athlete and much more. Lastly, we discuss his Chipotle deal and what he'd make for Gordon Ramsay for dinner.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Jack's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jackfloood/?hl=en

Feb 24, 2023 • 1h 9min
The Story Of Nike With Nike Historian-Emeritus Scott Reames
"Prefontaine basically started Nike's Sports Marketing entire blueprint: athletes talking to athletes. That's one reason Phil Knight was so anti-advertising for a long time; he felt that the best advertising was one athlete telling another. We called it 'word of foot' advertising instead of 'word of mouth.'"
My conversation with Scott Reames on the podcast today is one of the most fascinating discussions I've ever had. Scott is the Nike Historian-Emeritus and worked at Nike from 1992-2021. During his time there, Scott successfully documented Nike's history, and that built the backbone of the wildly successful book by Co-Founder of Nike Phil Knight, "Shoe Dog." Scott knows more about the history of Nike than anyone else.
I let my curiosity guide this conversation, resulting in a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion. I pick Scott's brain on many different topics, including Nike's beginnings, some of their biggest signings (Lebron James, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, etc.), Nike's most significant calculated risks, how Nike grew from $8,000 in revenue its first year to $44.5 billion in 2021, and many more subjects.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Scott's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-reames-1b59527/?trk=public_profile_samename-profile
-A Great Article On Scott: https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2021/11/22/Insiders/Marketing-and-Sponsorship.aspx

Feb 23, 2023 • 35min
High School Sensation Sadie Engelhardt Shares Her Story, Running 4:35 In The Mile As A Freshman, & Future Goals
Today on the podcast, I get to speak with high school sensation, Sadie Engelhardt. Just as a Freshman last year, Sadie ran 4:35.16 in the mile (a U16 World Record), won Nike Outdoor Nationals, broke the state record in the 1500 by clocking a 4:11.79 at the Portland Track Festival. On the grass this past season, Sadie won a state championship and, early in the season, ran a record-breaking time of 15:42 in the 3-mile. Sadie's coach, Tyree Cruz, put it best, “Sadie may be one of the best runners in high school history, but she’s so much more than that. She’s also a great teammate who loves her team and is always there for them.”
I thoroughly enjoyed my conversation with Sadie. It was light, fun, and inspiring. We discuss her start in the sport all the way up to going into some of her biggest races. Sadie also answers your listener questions and talks about her love of Trader Joe's. Listening to my podcast with Sadie Engelhardt will provide valuable insight and inspiration for anyone looking to improve their performance and overall well-being. Through Sadie's personal experiences and knowledge, you will gain a deeper understanding of the mental and physical components of running and how to apply them to enhance your own running journey and ultimately improve the quality of your life.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-CLEAN ENERGY!: https://cleansmoothie.com
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en

Feb 21, 2023 • 57min
Stronger Through Adversity With Cole Sprout
The one and only Cole Sprout returns to the podcast. The first episode I ever did with Cole was when I had the Flu; so happy to have a conversation with him when I felt normal. Cole is a junior at Stanford University, where he has slowly cemented himself as one of the top runners in the NCAA. Just this indoor season so far, Cole has run 7:43 in the 3k and 13:24 in the 5k. Cole is also a multi-time All-American both on the track and the grass.
Today's conversation was wide-ranging and philosophical at times. Cole is an incredibly perspicacious speaker, and I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of this conversation. He recaps his XC season, growing in faith because of it, confidence, culture, and much more. I'm extremely confident that you'll be positively impacted by listening to this conversation! I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did having it.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-CHERIBUNDI (use code "TRE" to get 20% off!): https://cheribundi.com
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Cole's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/colecsprout/
-Cole's Stanford Profile: https://gostanford.com/sports/cross-country/roster/cole-sprout/19598

Feb 19, 2023 • 1h 6min
From 24 Minute 5k To NCAA Champion: The Story Of Yaseen Abdalla
"It's hard before it gets easy; getting there is the hard part. You have to be so confident in yourself that people think you're delusional."
This is a podcast I've been wanting to make happen since March of 2022. Yaseen Abdalla has gone from a 24min 5k guy to NCAA National Champion. The story of Yaseen Abdalla is one full of ups and downs, and I left this conversation incredibly inspired. Yaseen is the David Goggins of the NCAA. He has an unbreakable mind that was fascinating to explore. Yaseen recently ran 7:42 in the 3k moving inside the collegiate all-time top 10. Yaseen also competed for his country of Sudan at the 2022 Eugene World Championships in July in the 5k.
In this podcast, Yaseen and I discuss his upbringing in the sport, throwing away his NCAA All-American medal, his teammate Dylan Jacobs running 7:36 in the 3k, confidence, failure, challenging the status quo, and making jumps in this sport. Through Yaseen's personal experiences and knowledge, you will gain a deeper understanding of the mental and physical components of running and how to apply them to enhance your own running journey and ultimately improve the quality of your life.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Yaseen Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yaseenaabdalla/?hl=en
-Yaseen's Youtube Channel (go subscribe): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSuId8at82cOHkC8ng-EHfA

Feb 17, 2023 • 41min
THE CALL ROOM With Ben Flanagan | Episode 3: Hills and Valleys
Episode 3! A big recap of BU 5k, where Ben ran 13:11, NBGP, where he ran the 3k, and a race in Chicago where he paced. We also discuss current track news such as Millrose & 52 guys breaking four minutes in the mile at the same meet.
About THE CALL ROOM: Have you ever wondered what it looks like to train as a professional distance runner? What the day-to-day life looks like? How to handle setbacks, failure, adversity, and doubts? How to set goals, train for them, and execute them on race day? As outsiders, we see remarkable athletes accomplish remarkable things every year. We don't see the behind-the-scenes of what went into that remarkable performance. We don't see or understand the hours of hard work, struggle, doubt, etc. The Running Effect is here to bring you an inside look at all these things with the man, the myth, the legend, Ben Flanagan.
Ben Flanagan has cemented himself as one of the best Canadian runners of all time in his short four years of being a professional runner. He is the Canadian half-marathon record holder with a time of 61:00 and has won the prestigious Falmouth Road Race three years in a row (gaining the name "The King of Falmouth" in the process). In addition, he won the 2018 NCAA 10k title while competing for the University of Michigan. Ben is currently sponsored by On Running and is a member of VNTC based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Over the next two months, Ben and I will dive deep into his indoor campaign leading into The Ten, presented by Sound Running. We will go into his training, racing, mindset, and answer your questions along the way!
Enjoy the podcast? Please consider subscribing following us on Spotify & Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-Ben's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_flanagan/?hl=en
-Ben's Strava: https://www.strava.com/pros/ben-flanagan-41161380
-VNTC Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@verynicetrackclub5601/featured
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-Intro Background Music: https://mandelbro.bandcamp.com/album/oh-margarita

Feb 15, 2023 • 37min
A Conversation With Irene Riggs After Winning USAs & Gatorade XC POY, Setting A National Record, & World XC Preview
Back on the podcast is the one and only Irene Riggs. Since having Irene on the podcast after NXN, she won the USATF U20 Cross Country Championships, and then a few weeks later, ran a national indoor record in the 3200m running 9:45. Irene will be repping the red, white, and blue in Bathurst, Australia on February 18th. Irene also won the 2022-2023 National Girls Cross Country Player of the Year due to her athletic excellence, academic achievements, and exemplary character.
In today's conversation, Irene dives deep into this past month and all of the adventures that came with it. We dive into her training, racing, mindset, and many other fun subjects. We top off the episode answering your questions! Irene is always so much fun to talk with, and we have both a fun and inspiring conversation. I hope you enjoy it as much we did!
Until next time, enjoy my insightful conversation with the perspicacious and ever-inspiring, Irene Riggs!
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-CLEAN ENERGY!: https://cleansmoothie.com
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en

Feb 13, 2023 • 39min
The Inside Scoop With Lex & Leo Young
Your favorite runners return to the podcast, Lex and Leo Young. Just a few weeks ago, they competed in the U20 race at the 2023 USA XC National meet. Leo ended up down a stacked field to win his first national title; this will send him to Australia to rep the red, white, and blue on a global stage. Lex placed a valiant 12th coming off of an injury; he is fully focused on running some fast times on the track very soon.
This conversation is one like any other we've had: full of insights, banter, and many laughs. I always thoroughly enjoy my conversations with Lex and Leo, and I know you will too!
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-CHERIBUNDI (use code "TRE" to get 20% off!): https://cheribundi.com
-Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
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