
THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
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Latest episodes

Oct 31, 2023 • 38min
The Call Room Rising Stars: Drew Griffith On Running The 11th Fastest XC 5k EVER, Ambitions Of Winning Foot Locker, & More
In Episode 2 of The Call Room Rising Stars, I have the privilege of speaking with Drew Griffith!
If you're not familiar with Drew, he is one of the biggest up-and-coming stars in the US prep distance scene. Drew is the reigning Foot Locker Northeast Regional Champion. He went on to place 6th at the National Meet after throwing up the night before (more fun BTS in the podcast). Drew currently holds PRs of 4:07 in the Mile, 8:48 in the 2-Mile, and most recently ran 14:21 in XC, making him the 11th fastest ever at the distance. Needless to say, Drew is on a tear and nothing seems to be holding him back as we get into the postseason.
In today's conversation, Drew and I go through his story, from his early passion for swim to progressively getting more serious about the sport of running. We go through winning the Foot Locker Northeast Regional last year, placing 6th in the country while being sick, and not having the track season he was hoping to have. Lastly, we get into his ambitions for the rest of the season, lessons from his successful career, and so much more. Today's episode is one for the books! Many good nuggets of wisdom in here that you can apply directly into your running and life.
Tap into the Drew Griffith Special.
Today's episode is a part of "The Call Room Rising Stars" a series where you will meet the next generation of stars, hear their journey to get to where they are today, and get an inside look at their preparation going into the Foot Locker Regional & National Meets.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE HOKA CRESCENDO XC: https://www.hoka.com/en/gb/race/crescendo-xc/196565567727.html
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Oct 29, 2023 • 48min
Byron Grevious On Going To A Boarding School & Being One Of The Fastest Kids In The Country
Today on the podcast is Byron Grevious!
Byron has run 4:12.95 (Mile), 8:51.00 (3200m), and 14:04 in the 5k to win the Nike Outdoor Nationals 5k title.
Byron is one of a kind. I have never spoken to a more eloquent teenager than this kid. Just listen to the podcast, and you'll know what I mean. Not only is he athletically excellent, but also academically. Byron goes to Phillips Exeter Academy, a boarding school in Massachusetts (and one of the most prestigious in the country). Byron is committed to run for Stanford University next fall.
In today's episode, Byron goes through the life of a boarding school student, his early years as an extremely successful soccer player, transitioning into running, what makes running different, how he balances many things well, and so much more! Today's conversation was absolutely fantastic, and I hope you take the time to listen!
Tap into the Byron Grevious Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
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Oct 27, 2023 • 29min
The Call Room Rising Stars: Ryan Pajak On Running 8:48/4:09, Commiting To Notre Dame & Foot Locker 2023 Ambitions
In Episode 1 of The Call Room Rising Stars, I have the privilege of speaking with Ryan Pajak!
Ryan is an absolute stud out of my home state of Pennslyvania. Ryan placed 12th last year at the 2022 Foot Locker National Meet, gaining his First-XC All-American title in the process. Ryan holds PRs of 4:09 (Mile), 8:48 (3200m), and recently ran 14:40 on the grass. Ryan is committed to run for The University of Notre Dame.
In today's episode, Ryan goes through his start in the sport, how Pennsylvania is an underrated running state, committing to the University of Notre Dame, placing 12th at Foot Locker last year, his ambitions for State & Foot Locker this year, and so much more!
Tap into the Ryan Pajak Special.
Today's episode is a part of "The Call Room Rising Stars" a series where you will meet the next generation of stars, hear their journey to get to where they are today, and get an inside look at their preparation going into the Foot Locker Regional & National Meets.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE HOKA CRESCENDO XC: https://www.hoka.com/en/gb/race/crescendo-xc/196565567727.html
-SIGN UP FOR FOOT LOCKER REGIONALS HERE: https://footlockercc.com/
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en

Oct 25, 2023 • 39min
Running A 3:56 Mile Off Of Three Years Of Serious Running With Callum Elson
Today on the podcast is World Silver Medalist Callum Elson!
A Cambridge and Coleridge athlete, Elson ran as a youngster and finished 16th in the English Schools Cross Country Champs in 2017, but while at the University of Durham concentrated on playing football and only began running seriously again during the COVID-19 Pandemic.
In 2022, he left American International College in Boston, Massachusetts and returned to the UK. He represented Britain for the first time at the European Cross Country Championships in Turin, Italy in December 2022.
In February 2023, he was selected to compete for Great Britain at the 2023 World Athletics Cross Country Championships in Bathurst, New South Wales.
Elson ran a new area record time of 3:56.41 to win the silver medal in the road mile at the 2023 World Athletics Road Running Championships in Riga.
Most insane of all, Callum has only been running for three years seriously. The sky is seriously the limit for this guy.
In today's episode, Callum and I discuss his upbringing in the sport, training/living the UK, his year in the NCAA system, the biggest lessons he's learned from the sport, the World Mile Championships, his future ambitions, and so much more!
Tap into the Callum Elson Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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Oct 23, 2023 • 48min
The New Wave Of Running YouTube: Brock Kelly On His Pursuits Of YouTube, Running, & More
Today on the podcast is Brock Kelly!
If you're not familiar with Brock, he runs for Mississippi College where he has progressed over the years into one of their top guys. He holds PRs of 1:55.03 (800m), 4:11.19 (Mile), and 14:49.2 (5k). He has won awards of 2021 USTFCCCA All-Academic Team, 2021 GSC Academic Honor Roll, and 2021 USTFCCCA All-Region. In High School, Brock was a state champion in 3,200 meters, 2xstate champ in 1,600 meters, 3xstate champ in 800 meters and the Cross Country state champion in 2018 and 2019.
Brock also has a successful YouTube channel boasting over 8,000 subscribers documenting his NCAA journey.
In today's conversation, Brock goes through how he's handling a current injury, the importance of consistency, his summer as an intern for professional running team Tinman Elite, his journey on YouTube, handling academics, athletics, and owning a merch company at the same time, and so much more! Today's conversation was absolutely fantastic, and I had a lot of fun having it. I'm confident you'll walk away from this one with a smile on your face and some extra inspiration to tackle this week.
Tap into the Brock Kelly Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-Brock's YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@TheBrockKelly?si=Whf5Bi5g-xUJPO3s
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Oct 21, 2023 • 57min
Inside The Life Of An NCAA Runner With Michael Maiorano | A Glimpse Into The Highs & Lows
Today on the podcast is the real Michael Maiorano!
For those who aren't familiar with Michael, in high school, he boasted personal bests of 3:49 (1500m), 8:46 (3200m), and 14:37 (5000m). In the Fall of his senior year, he qualified for the Eastbay National Cross Country Championships, where he placed 12th. In the spring of 2022, he placed 2nd and 4th at the Oregon 6A State Track & Field Championships in the 3000m and the 1500m, respectively. In June of 2022, he took second place in the Brooks PR 2 mile.
Today's episode was very casual and wide-ranging. Just a conversation between two friends. And as I'm sure you know, with those, they are fun, deep, inspiring, funny, and everything in between. Michael shares his story, running in the mountains, where he thinks his future lies, the lows of the sport, his high school days in Oregon, training during covid, running for Gonzaga, running with God, and not for him, and so much more.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 1min
PROJECT 2:59 The FINALE: Reflection On The Project + How To Approach Your Offseason
EPISODE 10!
In today's episode, Alex and I reflect on this project. We go through what went well, what we think we could have done better, and the biggest takeaways from the past ten weeks. We also dive into how to approach your off-season both mentally and physically and close out with some parting words of wisdom from Alex.
I hope you all enjoy today's episode as much as we did recording it. Considering sharing it with a friend if you enjoyed it or have enjoyed any of the episodes in the past! This is the quickest way we can grow.
About this series: Introducing Project 2:59!
Over the next nine weeks, I will be documenting my preparation and lead-up to the 2023 Columbus Marathon that will take place on October 15.
This will be my first attempt at the marathon distance, and I have set the ambitious goal of running 2:59 or faster to break the three-hour barrier and qualify for a future edition of The Boston Marathon.
Coaching me will be Alex Ostberg, a seven-time All-American who holds PRs of 3:58 in the Mile, 7:49 in the 3k, and 13:18 in the 5k. He has a Bachelor's Degree in human biology, a minor in psychology, and a master's in public health.
I will take you behind the scenes on my training, mindset, and more each week via podcast with Alex. We will dive into the ins and outs of marathon training, seeking to provide you value along the way.
I will also be documenting the training on social media so you can visually see the training and follow in a more in-depth way than ever before!
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. The podcast graphic was done by the talented: Xavier Gallo.
S H O W N O T E S
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Oct 18, 2023 • 42min
The Next Steeplechase Legend Duncan Hamilton On His Storied NCAA Career + Signing With The Bowerman Track Club
Today on the podcast is Duncan Hamilton!
One of the most prolific distance runners in the history of Montana State Track and Field, Duncan Hamilton, has set standards that will stand the test of time. Hamilton, a product of Bozeman High School, owns six Montana State records – three indoors and three outdoors. He also holds the all-time Big Sky Conference record in the 3000-meter steeplechase. Last spring, he had a season to remember, which culminated in a fourth-place steeplechase finish at the USA Track and Field Championships. Last season, he was the NCAA steeplechase runner-up. This spring, Hamilton won his fourth consecutive Big Sky Conference championship steeple title. This past season, he had another runner-up finish in the steeplechase at NCAAs and made the final at USAs. Duncan also announced, leading into USAs, that he had made the decision to sign with Nike's Bowerman Track Club.
In today's episode, Duncan takes me through his first few months of professional running, his decision to sign with BTC, how he got his start in the sport, his progression through high school and college, and so much more! It was very enjoyable learning from one of the biggest up-and-coming steeple stars in the world.
Tap into the Duncan Hamilton Special.
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Oct 16, 2023 • 31min
From 28min 5k To 7xNCAA Champion: The Incredible Story Of Alex Philip
Today on the podcast is Alex Philip!
Alex currently runs for The University of North Carolina. He graduated from John Carroll University in 2023 and was known for his exceptional achievements in running. Alex was a 7xNCAA DIII Champion and held multiple DIII National Records, including in the indoor 3,000m and 5,000m distances. He became just the fifth runner in DIII history to win back-to-back National Championships in XC. His performance helped lead the team to a back-to-back 4th place in the country podium finish. Alex was also named the 2021 & 2022 USTFCCCA Division III Men's Cross Country National Athlete of the Year. He holds PRs of 4:04 (Mile), 7:53.24 (3k), 13:44.98 (5K), and 28:48.88 (10k).
In today's episode, Alex and I discuss his start in the sport, playing ultimate frisbee during practice, going to John Caroll, getting serious about the sport, winning an unfathomable amount, setting records, transferring to UNC, and much more! Today's conversation was absolutely fantastic. Alex's story and progression are beyond inspiring, and I can't wait to see how it impacts you all.
Tap into the Alex Philip Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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Oct 14, 2023 • 55min
Inside The Success Of NAU & Their Dystany With Theo Quax: Stories & Lessons From His Successful Collegiate Career
Today on the podcast is NAU legend, Theo Quax!
If you're not familiar with him, Theo runs for NAU and has been a part of many of the NCAA Championship wins. He has consistently excelled, earning recognition like the USTFCCCA Men's National Athlete of the Week and Big Sky Athlete of the Week awards. He's maintained a strong performance record, even at high-level competitions like the NCAA Championships, consistently pushing his team forward. Theo's exceptional performances have solidified his reputation as a top-tier athlete in his field. Prior to his years at NAU, he was a two-time NZ 1500m Champion U20 (2016, 2017), the 2017 U20 NZ Road Race National Champion, and a 2018 World Junior Qualifier in the 1500m.
In today's episode, Theo goes through his successful career, the lessons he's learned, insights from being on multiple NCAA Championship teams, misconceptions about the program, and much more. Theo is full of exuberance and wisdom, making this episode one of my all-time favorites. Theo brought a ton of wisdom and knowledge to this conversation today.
Tap into the Theo Quax Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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