
THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
The Running Effect is changing the way the world sees running.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport to share untold stories, elite insights, and powerful conversations that move the culture forward.
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Latest episodes

Jun 19, 2024 • 20min
Coach Mike Smith & Coach Chris Miltenberg On Their Relationship & Glory Days Stories
Legendary coaches Coach Mike Smith and Coach Chris Miltenberg discuss their transition from athletes to impactful coaches, emphasizing personal growth over winning titles. They delve into the importance of authenticity in coaching and highlight their close relationship and diverse conversations beyond just training regimens.

Jun 17, 2024 • 30min
A Conversation With One Of The Fastest NCAA Milers Of All-Time Abel Terra
Today on the podcast is one of the best NCAA Milers, Abel Teffra!
Abel is a senior who runs for Georgetown University.
Abel has run 3:36 in the 1500m, 3:54 in the Mile (Indoor Mile School Record), and was a 2024 All-American at NCAA Indoors in the Mile where he placed 5th. Abel is also the American Record Holder in the 4xMile) where he set the fastest collegiate mile split in relay history.
In today's conversation, we go through Abel's past few months of racing, his mindset going into the 2024 Olympic Trials, his time at Georgetown, his growth as an athlete, and more!
Tap into the Abel Teffra Special.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 14, 2024 • 51min
A Conversation With Notre Dame's Coach Jared Schatz: The Coolest Coach In The NCAA
Today on the podcast is the coolest coach in the NCAA Jared Schatz!
Coach Schatz is an Assistant Coach at The University of Notre Dame where his focus is on the Men's Program.
Before Notre Dame, Coach Schatz served as the Operations Assistant for the Florida State men’s cross country and track and field teams. And then before FSU, he served as the Assistant Cross Country and Track & Field Coach for the University of Central Missouri from August of 2016-May of 2019.
Coach Schatz received a Bachelor of Science degree in Health Science from Messiah College. At Messiah, he was a four-year member of the varsity men’s cross country team and track & field where he was Division III All-American in the 3000m steeplechase, a three-time NCAA Cross Country/Track & Field championship qualifier, a ten-time First Team All-Conference Cross Country/Track & Field honors, a three-time Middle Atlantic Conference Champion and record holder in the 3000m steeplechase (8:55.34).
In today's conversation, Coach Schatz takes me through his journey in sport, being a young coach in the NCAA, what it takes to be great, qualities of the best runners in the country, what makes the Notre Dame team special, and so much more!
I sincerely loved this conversation and think you will, too. Take the time to listen and be enlightened by the one and only Coach, Jared Schatz!
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You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 12, 2024 • 28min
Allie Zealand Shares Insights From Her National Record In The Mile (4:30) & Mindset Leading Into A Chase At The 2-Mile National Record
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is Allie Zealand!
Allie has been on fire recently and is looking to do big things leading into this year's Brooks PR Invite.
On May 30, 2024, Allie Zealand won the 2024 HOKA Festival of Miles Girl HS Mile Championship race in a new National Record Time of 4:30.38!
Allie also has run 9:47 in the 2-Mile, one of the fastest times ever at that distance.
She also placed 2nd at the 2023 Foot Locker Cross Country National Championships!
Allie is committed to run for Liberty University this fall.
In today's conversation, we recap her historic mile race, her decision to go to Liberty, her ambitions for the future, and much more!
You can catch Allie Zealand go for history on June 12 in the 2-Mile at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington.
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You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 10, 2024 • 35min
Sub 4 HS Miler JoJo Jourdon Shares Insights Ahead Of Chasing History At The 2024 Brooks PR Meet
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is JoJo Jourdon!
On February 3rd, he won the 2024 New Balance Grand Prix in a time of 3:59.87. JoJo became the first Utah high school runner to break the four-minute mile barrier.
He's racing one of his first competitive miles back since February this week.
JoJo was the 2023 Men's NXN Champion and won in stunning fashion. He came out of the mud on top, and that was just the start. He's also run 1:55.55 in the 800m and 8:40 in the 2-Mile. Lastly, he won the 2023 Utah 5A XC State Champ,2023 & recently won a pair of State-Titles at his 2024 Utah Track State Championships.
JoJo is committed to run for Wake Forest this upcoming Fall where he'll join a Rockey Hansen who also broke four minutes in the mile as a high schooler last year.
In today's conversation, we recap his historic state meet, his decision to go all-in on the Brooks PR Meet, his experience from the 2023 edition, his recent training, and much more!
You can catch JoJo Jourdon go for first on June 12 in the Mile at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington.
Tap into the JoJo Jourdon Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 8, 2024 • 57min
From Not Making An NCAA Meet To Making The 2024 Paris Olympics & Setting National Records: The Inspiring Story Of Lauren Ryan
Today on the podcast is 2024 Olympian Lauren Ryan!
Lauren runs for Under Armour's Dark Sky Distance and represents her home country of Australia. She is currently a 2x National Record Holder and 1x Australian Champion. Lauren has officially been selected for the 2024 Paris Olympics.
Before these accolades, Lauren ran for Flordia State University, where she was a multi-time All-American, ACC Champion, and multi-time school record holder. Alyssa represented Australia twice as a junior at the 2016 World Under 20 Championships and 2017 World Cross Country Championships.
Lauren has run 4:08 (1500m), 8:42 (3k), 14:57 (5k), and 30:35 (10k).
In today's conversation, Lauren takes me through her upbringing in sport, her incredible recent success, what it's like traveling around the world as a pro track athlete, joining Under Armour and their recent surge in the sport, her goals for Paris, and much more!
Take the time to be inspired by Lauren's story & wisdom!
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You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
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-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 6, 2024 • 44min
Daniel Simmons Speaks On His Historic Season, Chase Of An Olympic Trials Standard In The 5k (13:25), & How His Faith Has Propelled Him On & Off The Track
Today on the podcast is one of the greatest talents of our generation, Daniel Simmons!
Daniel is the most successful athlete in Utah's high school boys' running history. He was the 2024 Indoor Track and Field National Champion in the 5000m (NBNI), where he set a new National Record of 13:38; the day before, he led his team to the 4XMile relay anchor National Champions, running the second fastest time ever. Danny won the 2024 Arcadia Invitational 3200m Champion and 4XMile relay (anchor) Champions. He was the BYU Invitational 1600m Champion (new meet and state record),
2024 Utah 6A State Champion 1600m (New State Record 4:01) and 3200m (New State Record 8:36), as well as the 4X800 relay team State Champions.
Daniel has run 1:53 in the 800m, 4:01 in the 1600m at altitude, 8:36 in the 3200m at altitude (8:34 at sea level), and 13:38 in the 5k.
On the grass, Daniel is a 2XUtah 6A State XC Champion (2022, 2023), 2X NXR Southwest XC Champion (2022, 2023) and placed 2nd at NXN in 2022.
Get this, Daniel holds the course record on every course he has run on except the NXN course (Portland) where he has the 2nd fastest course time.
Daniel is also the BACK-TO-BACK Gatorade Boys National Boys POY.
In today's conversation, we go through Danny's past few months of training and racing and how pivotal a role his faith plays. I sincerely loved this conversation and know you'll find benefit from it.
Tap into the Daniel Simmons Special.
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 5, 2024 • 21min
5-Star Football Recruit & Top Sprinter In The Country Brandon Arrington Shares His Journey To The Top Of Both Sports As Just A Sophmore In High School
Share this episode with someone you think would enjoy it! Apologizes for the mid audio quality. New podcast with Daniel Simmons tomorrow!
You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Jun 3, 2024 • 52min
Clay Shively On Having A Growth Mindset In His Final Year Of His HS Career & His Chase Of The Sub 4 Mile
Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is Clay Shively!
Clay is one of the fastest high school boys in the country, and he's only a junior. He holds PRs of 1:51 (800m), 4:00 (Mile), and 8:41 (2-Mile). Clay is a New Balance Indoor National Champion in the Mile, a 6x State Champion, and committed to run for NAU this upcoming Fall.
In today's conversation, Clay takes me through his mindset leading into the final few weeks of the season, his takeaways from his XC season, his pursuit of the 4-minute mile, why he is embracing the underdog mentality going into Brooks PR, and much more!
I legitimately always love my conversations with Clay, and I am confident you'll walk away from this one inspired and ready to reach for those big goals you've set.
You can catch Clay Shively running the 800m at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet in Seattle, Washington on June 12.
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You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-More info on the BROOKS PR Meet: https://www.soundrunning.run/brookspr
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

May 31, 2024 • 1h 4min
How Faith Grounds Stanford's Cole Sprout Through The Ups & Downs Of NCAA Running
Today on the podcast is one of the most loved guests in the history of The Running Effect, Cole Sprout!
Cole runs for Stanford University (Go tree!) and is entering his final year of school there this Fall.
Cole has run 3:56 in the Mile, 13:24 in the 5k, and 27:42 in the 10k. Cole won the 2023 NACACs in the 5k, is a Five-time All-American, placed eighth in the 5,000 at the 2023 U.S. Championships, and 16th in the 10,000.
In high school, Cole became one of the greatest HS runners of all-time in Colorado history. He was the first Colorado high school runner to break 9 minutes for 3,200 in a race run in Colorado. He ran 4:02.42 in the mile in a May, 2020, when a 4:02 was like what a 3:58 is today. He won six Gatorade state athlete of the year honors – three in track and three in cross country. He also won seven state championships – doubling in the 1,600 and 3,200 in 2018 and 2019, in addition to his cross country titles.
In today's conversation, Cole and I go very deep on a plethora of subjects today relating to his running and faith. Cole speaks very openly about his faith as a Christian and we lean into that today and how it affects his running and life.
We also talk about his last year of running and his plans for the upcoming months.
Take the time to be blessed by Cole's wisdom!
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You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching "The Running Effect Podcast," or watch on YouTube by searching the same thing. If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com